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Bush Apologizes for FDR’s Sellout at Yalta
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Posted on 05/13/2005 8:13:39 AM PDT by Alex Marko

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1 posted on 05/13/2005 8:13:40 AM PDT by Alex Marko
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Gasp! Bush is criticizing Saint FDR, what will the Dems do now? Hate him even more?


2 posted on 05/13/2005 8:16:34 AM PDT by MrsEmmaPeel
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FDR loved the commies. I can't decide who was worse, him or Carter.


3 posted on 05/13/2005 8:19:13 AM PDT by Redgirl (I actually voted for John Kerry before I voted against him.)
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Yes, one of the leftists attorneys I know here was ranting and raving about picking on "poor, dead, FDR" damning Bush for what he called "Bush said the Greatest Generation did not do enough." I told him I never heard those words. He ranted that is "WHAT BUSH MEANT." I said, how do you know that is what he meant? He ranted that Bush was picking on a dead man. I said, well since FDR was a socialist himself, giving us social security, federal income taxes, and basically lying and I believe, allowing us to be attacked at Pearl Harbor to get the US into WWII, then he deserved picking on. But, of course, that did not placate this leftist. He continued to rant. I laughed and walked off.
4 posted on 05/13/2005 8:20:58 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (Search and Destroy socialist democrats & their leaders Fat Ted, F'n Kerry & the Beast!)
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That is not everything that the great liberal icon FDR sold us out on.


5 posted on 05/13/2005 8:21:29 AM PDT by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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When the Germans surrendered, the Japanese army was virtually untouched, fresh, and formidable. In conventional terms we were looking at a horrendous and maybe even unwinable battle with the Japanese. In that context I think it is understandable that Roosevelt chose not to start a whole new war with the Russians.


6 posted on 05/13/2005 8:22:33 AM PDT by DManA
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"Bush Apologizes for FDR’s Sellout at Yalta"


That's nuthin!

Morris Sutter appologized yesterday to Nicky DelCorpo for beating the crap out of him when we were in high school.

7 posted on 05/13/2005 8:23:16 AM PDT by G.Mason ( Save the Republic from the shallow, demagogic sectarians.)
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I must admit I never looked at the Yalta agreement in the way Bush has portrayed it. Of course, I always looked at like ending the great war and bringing our heros home, bringing freedom, etc....but I see now that it really didn't bring freedom to all. We sacrificed some for peace. I don't blame FDR and Churchill, at the time, I am sure they thought it was the best thing to do. 20/20 and all that. Anyway, I am glad Pres. Bush has made me think of it in a new way. That is one of the things I love about Pres. Bush, he makes me think about some things in a different manner.

Thanks for posting the article.


8 posted on 05/13/2005 8:24:47 AM PDT by yellowdoghunter (Liberals should be seen and not heard.)
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Actually, you should be thanking Alex Marko! But I'll do it for you: Yo, AM -- thumbs up from YDH.
9 posted on 05/13/2005 8:27:50 AM PDT by MrsEmmaPeel
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Now how about an apology for all the other horrendous things FDR did?


10 posted on 05/13/2005 8:31:00 AM PDT by reelfoot
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I think the Russians were vulnerable after the fall of Berlin. We had the bomb. Patton could have pushed them back or even the threat to do so would have succeeded.

We're paying the price for the Yalta sell out and Jimmy Carter's sell out of the Shah.


11 posted on 05/13/2005 8:32:58 AM PDT by nikos1121
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Thank you....my error.

Have a great day!


12 posted on 05/13/2005 8:33:53 AM PDT by yellowdoghunter (Liberals should be seen and not heard.)
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To: G.Mason
"Bush Apologizes for FDR’s Sellout at Yalta" That's nuthin! Morris Sutter appologized yesterday to Nicky DelCorpo for beating the crap out of him when we were in high school.

LOL...now if only we can get George Lucas to apologize for them damned Ewoks, all will be well.

13 posted on 05/13/2005 8:36:20 AM PDT by Lekker 1 ("Who the hell wants to hear actors talk?"- Harry M. Warner, Warner Bros., 1927)
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FDR loved the commies.

WOW! I never heard that before. I have only heard good things about FDR. Please know I attended a public school :)...but also, my great-grandparents had only good things to say about him...the last Democrat they voted for. However, I must say that I cannot disagree with you...I just never heard someone come right out and say it! But maybe it is time.... Have a great day and thanks for giving me something to think about!

14 posted on 05/13/2005 8:37:26 AM PDT by yellowdoghunter (Liberals should be seen and not heard.)
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To: nikos1121
VE Day was May 8. The Trinity A-Bomb test didn't happen until July 16. NOBODY knew until July 16 that it was going to work.

We had the bomb

15 posted on 05/13/2005 8:43:19 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Redgirl
FDR loved the commies. I can't decide who was worse, him or Carter.

FDR. Reagan fixed all of Carters phuckups. We're still to this day trying to fix all of FDR's!

16 posted on 05/13/2005 8:49:12 AM PDT by Bommer
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What would have happened if Henry Wallace[lover of Communist Russia] had still been vice-president when FDR died in 1945?


17 posted on 05/13/2005 8:49:31 AM PDT by ardara
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Yet liberal historians continue to defend it. Witness Arthur Schlesigner, Jr. on huffingpost.com

Yalta Delusions
The Yalta conference in February 1945 produced, according to President Bush, "one of the greatest wrongs of history." The Yalta agreements "followed in the unjust tradition of Munich and the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact.…Once again, when powerful governments negotiated, the freedom of small nations was somehow expendable."

The American president is under the delusion that tougher diplomacy might have preserved the freedom of small East European nations. He forgets the presence of the Red Army. No conceivable diplomacy could have saved Eastern Europe from Soviet occupation. And military action against the Soviet Union was inconceivable so long as the Pacific War was still going on. Our military planners, in order to reduce American casualties, counted on the Red Army to enter the war against Japan . At Yalta Stalin promised a firm date in August. And in February the atom bomb seemed a fantasy dreamed up by nuclear physicists.

As for Eastern Europe, Stalin "held all the cards" in the words of Charles E. Bohlen, the Russian expert. But FDR managed to extract an astonishing document – the Declaration on Liberated Europe, an eloquent affirmation of "the right of all people to choose the form of government under which they will live." Molotov warned Stalin against signing it, but he signed it anyway. It was a grave diplomatic blunder. In order to consolidate Soviet control, Stalin had to break the Yalta agreements – which therefore could not have been in his favor.

The Declaration stands as the refutation of the myth, given new currency by the president of the United States , that Yalta caused or ratified the division of Europe . It was the deployment of armies, not negotiating concessions, that caused the division of Europe.

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18 posted on 05/13/2005 8:52:00 AM PDT by Sanjuro68
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To: ardara

Very, very good question...gives me even more to ponder. I guess I would hate to imagine what would have happened. The world would probably look alot different today.


19 posted on 05/13/2005 8:52:25 AM PDT by yellowdoghunter (Liberals should be seen and not heard.)
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20/20 agreed. Bush is right, Stalin got away with murder, but in 1945 the Russians had **five hundred divisions** and a head of steam. Even with atomic weapons it wouldn't have looked easy.


20 posted on 05/13/2005 8:52:57 AM PDT by agere_contra
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