Posted on 05/13/2005 10:29:49 AM PDT by voletti
"There were 90,820 'induced terminations of pregnancy' in NYC in 2003, according to the city health department, and 124,345 live births. By this rough measure, about 42% of all pregnancies in the city ended in abortions - more than double the national average."
Well, welcome to liberal utopia..That is a staggering number, and percentage. Not trying to make light of all the murdered babies, but NYC also has the largest drop in crime, so can/should we deduce that the two are related?
1 abortion is 1 too many. Check this out:
http://peoplepolitical.org/html/felicia.html
Note that I am not saying that abortion is good. Abortion is murder. But the people being murdered would most likely have been raised to be murderers (because their parents were pre-disposed to murder already)
A similar effect is seen in the growth of the democrat party. Pro-abortion democrats kill their babies while pro-life republicans raise theirs to be republicans. As a result the republican party grows and the democrats shrink.
Likewise someone who is more likely to kill their child will also be more likely to raise that child with a lower respect for life and the law. Liberals usually raise more liberals.
So if the criminally pre-disposed segment of the population commits the crime of killing their children what happens to that segment of the population? It shrinks of course, leaving less criminally pre-disposed people to commit crime.
Of course this is a abominable way to decrease the crime rate but it has to be put down as one of the unintended consequences of the pro-abortion movement
Gee, the racist, fascist, far right wing extremist whackjobs should then be solidly behind abortion and encourage all minority groups to commit genocide.
Wonder what's wrong with us that we don't support murdering the unborn children of minorities in America.... < / sarc >
I think the conclusion- more abortions/less crime overshadows the fact that preventing poor unwed teenage mothers from giving birth lowers crime. Making sure that 13 years old don't get pregnant should be the goal, not merely adding numbers without looking at quality of life. We have to emphasize morality, which is far more effective than abortion.
My wife was born to unmarried teenage parents in '67. I don't know what they would've done but I'm glad abortion wasn't legal then.
The first crime in abortion are those who participate in it. I guess these authors didn't count them.
Explain further what a "minority of note" is? Does that mean they will have paled in comparison to Hispanics? Or does it mean interracial marriage will dilute the race distinctions?
I certainly don't think that AA's will become extinct, as welfare recipients get free fertility treatment and have to pay for abortions. That second fact partly explains why their unmarried teen birth rate is far higher than Caucasians.
I beg to differ... I was mugged by a gang three year olds last week. This study is flawed, seriously flawed.
The problem with that theory is that it doesn't explain the four-fold increase in the crime rate that happened from 1960-1980. However, Expected Punishment (probability of getting a conviction multiplied by the average length of the prison sentence) dropped from 50 days per violent crime to 10 days per violent crime during that time period. Then expect punishement doubled from 10 to 20 days in the 90s. A much better fit.
Google "expected punishment" with things like crime rate and deterence.
Roe v. Wade came down in 1973, so it would have an effect on the crime rate for about 15-20 years, when those missing children would have reached their teenage years and begin a life of crime.
Never expect the Economist to admit this, however.
If we murder every newborn baby, the crime rate will go to zero eventually.
"able to do algebra"....
That would include a lot of other people too, not just pre-teens.
Talk about a racist statement!
Sorry, I meant the study conclusion was racist, not your comments.
Except that it isn't a finding. It's an opinion. A correlation doesn't equal a cause.
You missed my point - the crime rate increased starting in the 1960s and then decreased starting in the 1990s. The abortion theory doesn't hold water because it fails to explain the increase. To be a sound theory it must explain all the date, not just some of the data. Therefore, some other factor (namely Expected Punishment and deterence) is the cause.
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