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Gun Safety Class in S.C. Ends With a Bang
Associated Press ^ | May 12, 2005

Posted on 05/13/2005 1:34:56 PM PDT by kingattax

ANDERSON, S.C. May 12, 2005 — A gunshot was fired into the floor in an Anderson County middle school after a student accidentally pulled the trigger of a deputy's holstered gun.

The gun fired Wednesday morning after a student grabbed it as the deputy told them how hard it was to take a gun from an officer's holster, Sheriff David Crenshaw said.

The student's finger apparently was small enough to get inside the holster and pull the trigger, the sheriff said.

The bullet fired into the floor, and debris cut and scratched two students. But no one was seriously injured, school officials said.

The sheriff's office has begun an internal investigation and the officer involved is on administrative leave, said Crenshaw, who would not identify the deputy or say whether he would be paid while on leave.

"The officer there today had a major lapse in judgment," Crenshaw said Wednesday. "He was just trying to be nice to the kids and made a faulty decision. It was an accident. The good Lord blessed us that nobody got hurt."

Information from: The Greenville News, http://www.greenvillenews.com


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: bang; deputy; gun; gunsafety; student
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1 posted on 05/13/2005 1:34:57 PM PDT by kingattax
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To: kingattax

Can we have enough gun control so that IDIOTS don't have guns??

That could have been a senseless tragedy.


2 posted on 05/13/2005 1:37:06 PM PDT by ktvaughn
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To: kingattax

3 posted on 05/13/2005 1:37:23 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Anyone who thinks we believe Hillary on any issue is truly a moron.)
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To: kingattax
This wouldn't have happened if he had a trigger lock. </sarcasm>
4 posted on 05/13/2005 1:37:54 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Controlled substance laws created the federal health care monopoly and fund terrorism.)
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To: kingattax

"You flunk"


5 posted on 05/13/2005 1:38:26 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: kingattax

That was just stupid. It seems like a good idea to have a kid fingering around with a gun that I am wearing. Do we freepers have something like a dumbass award? If not, can we come up with one? This officer needs one.


6 posted on 05/13/2005 1:38:27 PM PDT by BookaT (Sorry I couldn't be here for the earlier part of the postings. I really don't feel comfortable...)
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To: kingattax

gollie gee


7 posted on 05/13/2005 1:39:15 PM PDT by postaldave (smile, your mom was pro-life.)
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To: ktvaughn

"...as the deputy told them how hard it was to take a gun from an officer's holster..."

It becomes orders of magnitude easier, however, once the weapon has been discharged into the officer's leg.


8 posted on 05/13/2005 1:40:33 PM PDT by DamascusRoad (Bay Area National Geological Preserve)
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To: kingattax
What on earth is going on in this cops mind? A loaded, ready to fire weapon that he invites a student to take away from him as some kind of demonstration. Perhaps the cop needs some remedial training in gun safety and good judgment.
9 posted on 05/13/2005 1:41:20 PM PDT by drt1
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To: DamascusRoad

HAHAHAHAH

...glad we're laughing...


10 posted on 05/13/2005 1:41:37 PM PDT by ktvaughn
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To: BookaT

Yes, what was this cop thinking ... I mean dumb dumb$h!T... Totally uncalled for... And very lucky someone wasn't hurt worst .


11 posted on 05/13/2005 1:42:47 PM PDT by Deetes (Speak Softly and Carry a Big Stick)
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To: kingattax

They make special practice firearms (usually blue plastic) for takeaway drills.

This guy was an idiot for using

a) a real firearm
b) a loaded one.


12 posted on 05/13/2005 1:43:38 PM PDT by George Smiley (This tagline deliberately targeted journalists.)
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To: kingattax
Not an isolated incident:

DEA Agent Negligent Discharge

13 posted on 05/13/2005 1:44:57 PM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: postaldave

LOL....good ol' Barney and his ONE bullet


14 posted on 05/13/2005 1:45:12 PM PDT by kingattax
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To: DamascusRoad

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA-HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!


15 posted on 05/13/2005 1:45:59 PM PDT by randog (What the....?!)
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To: BookaT

I think the Barney Fife award would be a fitting title.


16 posted on 05/13/2005 1:48:04 PM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (3-7-77 (No that's not a Date))
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To: kingattax

Make sure we never get this guy and the cop who showed the class how easy it is to make meth together in the same room. God only knows what they'd manage to do.


17 posted on 05/13/2005 1:48:14 PM PDT by keepingtrack
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To: BookaT

The article doesn't make it clear whether he "invited" the kid to try to take the gun, or if it was the kid's own idea. I suppose that will be a part of the investigation.


18 posted on 05/13/2005 1:51:30 PM PDT by Hugin (Hold muh juicebox and and watch this!)
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To: George Smiley

I would think they also make dummy plastic cartridges, for use in demonstrations of loading/unloading techniques. There was certainly no reason to have live rounds in the gun, for any demonstration that was going to be happening in the classroom.


19 posted on 05/13/2005 1:54:51 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: kingattax

OMG, there are some real fools out there. Having a kid take your gun??? Having a loaded gun on when you are demonstrating for kids??? There are somethings I just don't quite comprehend.


20 posted on 05/13/2005 1:55:36 PM PDT by FreedomHasACost (Life is too short, make yours count!)
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To: kingattax

I guess now we will have to make police holsters child proof.


21 posted on 05/13/2005 1:55:48 PM PDT by Judge Roy
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Must have been a glock!


22 posted on 05/13/2005 1:57:36 PM PDT by relee
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To: Judge Roy

No, just idiot proof.


23 posted on 05/13/2005 1:59:03 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (The murder of Terri Schindler Schiavo - NOT IN OUR NAME)
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To: Hugin

Read the second paragraph, Hugin.


24 posted on 05/13/2005 2:02:08 PM PDT by Treader (Hillary's dark smile is reminiscent of Stalin's inhuman grin...)
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To: GovernmentShrinker

Those are commonly called "snap-caps" and they're not for loading/unloading.

They're designed for "dry-firing", i.e., practicing a draw from holster/point at predetermined spot/pull trigger.

They're designed to provide the proper resistance for the firing pin to keep from overstressing the firing pin spring.


25 posted on 05/13/2005 2:04:25 PM PDT by George Smiley (This tagline deliberately targeted journalists.)
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To: ktvaughn

What the hell are you suggesting, ktvaughn?


26 posted on 05/13/2005 2:04:39 PM PDT by Treader (Hillary's dark smile is reminiscent of Stalin's inhuman grin...)
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To: GovernmentShrinker

They do make dummy rounds but this was caused by another kind of dummy.


27 posted on 05/13/2005 2:04:40 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: kingattax

Didn't this same sort of foolishness occur just a month or two ago? Police officer instructing kiddies in gun safety.. whoops... didn't know it was loaded.


28 posted on 05/13/2005 2:09:43 PM PDT by 6SJ7
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To: kingattax

Only cops should have guns......


29 posted on 05/13/2005 2:11:45 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("Fire Stabenow in 2006")
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To: Treader

moi?


30 posted on 05/13/2005 2:12:31 PM PDT by ktvaughn
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To: kingattax

"The student's finger apparently was small enough to get inside the holster and pull the trigger"

Finger bang


31 posted on 05/13/2005 2:18:33 PM PDT by BadAndy (Specializing in unnecessarily harsh comments.)
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To: Hugin
The article doesn't make it clear whether he "invited" the kid to try to take the gun, or if it was the kid's own idea.

An article on the same story previously posted stated explicitly that he told the kid to try to take the gun out of his holster.

32 posted on 05/13/2005 2:25:09 PM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: cripplecreek

LOL,
that is a GREAT show!


33 posted on 05/13/2005 2:25:45 PM PDT by SFC Chromey (Panama, Bosnia, Iraq, where next? I say retreat through Iran, then flank west through Syria!)
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To: ktvaughn
Can we have enough gun control so that IDIOTS don't have guns??

Well... see the Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms form: ATF F 4473, and reference question "f".

34 posted on 05/13/2005 2:27:06 PM PDT by Cobra64
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To: ktvaughn

Go ahead- play the well frogged opossum, it is fitting with your replies, so far.


35 posted on 05/13/2005 2:33:43 PM PDT by Treader (Hillary's dark smile is reminiscent of Stalin's inhuman grin...)
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To: BookaT
The only loaded weapons in our home are in our bedroom and den. All others transferred to the range, etc. are ALWAYS unloaded. My Sig P232 carry has a loaded mag but the breech is clear.

I'm not an LEO, but this cop was a jack-ass having his weapon loaded conducting a class or seminar. The cops I know have conducted these classes, and they do not have a loaded weapon in the room. Furthermore, when they teach the students, they ALWAYS release the cylinder, or open the slide, and have a fellow officer confirm that all is clear.

When I transport my weapons, the first thing I do is confirm that all actions are open (in the car) before I approach towards the range.

One time when I was in college,30 years ago, some jack-ass had two live rounds in his Browning sbs.

36 posted on 05/13/2005 2:36:23 PM PDT by Cobra64
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To: DamascusRoad
"...as the deputy told them how hard it was to take a gun from an officer's holster..."

What is it with some cops doing their "tough guy" bragging BS? If I were his boss, he'd be fired (no pun intended).

37 posted on 05/13/2005 2:38:48 PM PDT by Cobra64
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To: Treader

Oh! I spoke a frenchy word! I must be one a them commie libs!

You sound really angry. You should relax, it was a joke.

"What the hell are you suggesting, ktvaughn?"

And since you don't know me, why don't you watch YOUR french??


38 posted on 05/13/2005 2:42:01 PM PDT by ktvaughn
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To: kingattax
LOL....good ol' Barney and his ONE bullet

A bullet by itself may be less lethal than a spit-ball. There are four+ process pieces involved in the delivery process. I have a thirty-five year old Speer reloading manual that I can send to you. Then again, there are web sites: Dillon Precision, RCBS, Leeman...

39 posted on 05/13/2005 2:45:52 PM PDT by Cobra64
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To: drt1
Perhaps the cop needs some remedial training in gun safety and good judgment.

He needs a new job at Handgun Control. None of them should be allowed within a hundred yards of a gun either.

40 posted on 05/13/2005 2:48:00 PM PDT by Navy Patriot
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To: kingattax

Again? Why don’t the schools bring in an NRA safety instructor?


41 posted on 05/13/2005 2:51:29 PM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: cripplecreek

I love that show.


42 posted on 05/13/2005 2:53:20 PM PDT by dc27
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To: Hugin

When the officer stated how hard it was to do, the student saw it as a challenge. It’s not an uncommon reaction from a kid.


43 posted on 05/13/2005 2:53:46 PM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: ktvaughn

Typical leap frog the conversation, to my comments. I was responding to your reply in #2. Don't change the effin' question. Got an answer?


44 posted on 05/13/2005 3:01:44 PM PDT by Treader (Hillary's dark smile is reminiscent of Stalin's inhuman grin...)
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To: kingattax

I am speechless.


45 posted on 05/13/2005 3:03:45 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (Terri Schindler was murdered - IMPEACH JUDGE GREER!!!)
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To: basil; dbwz

And the liberals only trust "trained police officers" with guns...LOL


46 posted on 05/13/2005 3:08:24 PM PDT by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: Treader

Treader, THAT was the joke--

Have a great day--really...


47 posted on 05/13/2005 3:55:23 PM PDT by ktvaughn
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To: ktvaughn

lol... dang, now I will have to put out a "search to find"- on my sense of humor. Thanks for the good laugh & dose of humility, ktvaughn! ;^)


48 posted on 05/13/2005 4:17:50 PM PDT by Treader (Hillary's dark smile is reminiscent of Stalin's inhuman grin...)
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To: kingattax

I can just imagine Ted Nugent's reaction upon hearing this story.....

*shudder*


49 posted on 05/13/2005 4:19:58 PM PDT by hoagy62 (Revolution is now the ONLY option.)
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To: NonValueAdded

You cannot make anything idiot-proof, because idiots are so ingenious


50 posted on 05/13/2005 5:42:54 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity - MLK)
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