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U.S. Iraq oil claims target Chirac -French senator
Swissinfo ^ | May 13, 2005 | Reuters

Posted on 05/14/2005 8:54:07 AM PDT by phoenix_004

A senior French politician said on Friday he had been implicated in an oil-for-food scam in Iraq in an effort to discredit President Jacques Chirac, a fierce opponent of the US-led war in Iraq.

A US Senate report on Thursday said Senator Charles Pasqua - once a close Chirac associate and former interior minister in a conservative government - had received an allocation of 11 million barrels of oil with the personal approval of ousted Iraqi President Saddam Hussein.

The oil-for-food programme was dogged by allegations of massive fraud and charges Saddam used it to buy influence in the West.

Pasqua, who has immunity from prosecution as a member of the French Senate, again denied any link to Saddam’s Iraq and said he had urged the president of the French Senate to launch a separate probe into the allegations made against him, other French nationals and leading French companies.

Pasqua said: “Perhaps also, those who think that, through me, they can strike Jacques Chirac, are unaware that the nature of our relations has changed, at least politically.

“And if they think I could have influenced France’s policy, they are wrong,” “I’m capable of defending myself, that’s not the issue. (What is at issue is) the campaign that’s underway that is targeting a certain number of big French firms and French interests,” he said.

“In the United States, there is a real psychosis. This psychosis consists of them saying, ‘if France was hostile to the American intervention (in Iraq), it’s due to its economic interests or preferential relations it had with Saddam Hussein’.”

The French Foreign Ministry on Thursday criticised the US Senate for naming Pasqua, saying those accused had not been given a chance to defend themselves against the allegations. reuters

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Washington
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Ya when all else fails ,blame america!!!! It is becoming increasingly clear that Chirac's friends and associates profited greatly from that cozy relationship at the expense of the Iraqi people.Blaming it on america isn't the way out!!!
1 posted on 05/14/2005 8:54:07 AM PDT by phoenix_004
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To: phoenix_004

If there's no evidence against Mr. Pasqua, then he doesn't need to worry, does he? It's just that simple. Mr. Pasqua seems worried, though.


2 posted on 05/14/2005 8:58:24 AM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: phoenix_004

One other good thing about the US having gone into Iraq, is that the cesspool of crap that is/was "Oil-For-Food" would never have seen the light of day. At least some of those involved have been exposed for what they are.


3 posted on 05/14/2005 8:59:07 AM PDT by Fudd Fan (Theodore: the GOOD Roosevelt)
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To: phoenix_004
‘US striving to discredit Chirac’

Chirac's doing a good enough job of that without any outside assistance, thank you. :)

4 posted on 05/14/2005 8:59:59 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("As a conservative site, Free Republic is pro-G-d, PRO-LIFE..." -- FR founder Jim Robinson)
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To: phoenix_004

As I understand it the SOB Chirac would be in prison if he hadn't been elected president. As president he has immunity from prosecution for the corruption of his administration over Paris.


5 posted on 05/14/2005 9:03:42 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Anyone who thinks we believe Hillary on any issue is truly a moron.)
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To: phoenix_004
"A senior French politician said on Friday he had been implicated in an oil-for-food scam in Iraq in an effort to discredit President Jacques Chirac, a fierce opponent of the US-led war in Iraq."

And it wouldn't have anything to do with your own corrupt activities, would it Frenchy?

6 posted on 05/14/2005 9:04:35 AM PDT by Tench_Coxe
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To: phoenix_004
In the United States, there is a real psychosis. This psychosis consists of them saying, ‘if France was hostile to the American intervention (in Iraq), it’s due to its economic interests or preferential relations it had with Saddam Hussein’

No, it's not a psychosis. It is a relevant observation.

And, it's not quite that simple. First, since there were ongoing sanctions in place by the sacred UN, why were there any economic relations between Iraq and France in the first place. Second, if France was nothing but up-front and honest during the whole debate, why did their ambassador assure Colin Powell that it would not veto the US initiative if it went back one more time to the UN and then break their promise if not to embarass the US and frustrate the coalition's aims?

It's not a psychosis to make reasonable conclusions based on multiple and repeated actions over a long period of time. It would be a psychosis to not re-evaluate the nature of our relationship with Iraq after the actions of France the last 5 - 10 years or so where they have not only been adversarial to the US but have flouted UN sanctions.

7 posted on 05/14/2005 9:09:32 AM PDT by Tennessean4Bush (An optimist believes we live in the best of all possible worlds, a pessimist fears this is true.)
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To: Tennessean4Bush
No, it's not a psychosis. It is a relevant observation

AND it's called connecting the obvious dots.

8 posted on 05/14/2005 9:12:44 AM PDT by Fudd Fan (Theodore: the GOOD Roosevelt)
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To: phoenix_004

Chirac has done everything possible to make an enemy of the American administration, while they worked to put themselves at the center of a world wide US Counter-Alliance.

So now they're shocked when the US tries to discredit their administration? Au'contraire, Chirac! If the US wants your sorry administration out, we just have to wait.


9 posted on 05/14/2005 9:14:14 AM PDT by Wiseghy ("Sometimes you're windshield, sometimes you' re the bug")
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To: Fudd Fan

The French have always taken everyone to be fools. They are shocked when anyone dares to call them on their own devilish behavior. We whould have freed the rest of Europe but left France to the British to rule under martial law. Of course, why would I wish such a terrible fate on Great Britain?


10 posted on 05/14/2005 9:19:22 AM PDT by Tennessean4Bush (An optimist believes we live in the best of all possible worlds, a pessimist fears this is true.)
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To: Tennessean4Bush
Just so, the French have always been somebody's enemy!
11 posted on 05/14/2005 9:22:57 AM PDT by Fudd Fan (Theodore: the GOOD Roosevelt)
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To: phoenix_004
Chirac has discredited himself already. He doesn't need our help....
12 posted on 05/14/2005 9:25:02 AM PDT by b4its2late (A bartender is just a pharmacist with a limited inventory.)
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To: phoenix_004
‘US striving to discredit Chirac’

This could all go away if Jacques Chirac would say the following in an international address:

"Good evening.

This afternoon in this room, from this chair, I testified before the U.S. House Subcommittee on National Security, Emerging Threats and International Relations.

I answered their questions truthfully, including questions about my private life, questions no French citizen would ever want to answer.

Still, I must take complete responsibility for all my actions, both public and private. And that is why I am speaking to you tonight.

As you know, in a recent deposition, I was asked questions about my relationship with Saddam Hussein. While my answers were legally accurate, I did not volunteer information.

Indeed, I did have a relationship with Saddam Hussein that was not appropriate. In fact, it was wrong. It constituted a critical lapse in judgment and a personal failure on my part for which I am solely and completely responsible.

But I told the House Subcommittee today and I say to you now that at no time did I ask anyone to lie, to hide or destroy evidence or to take any other unlawful action.

I know that my public comments and my silence about this matter gave a false impression. I misled people, including even my wife. I deeply regret that.

I can only tell you I was motivated by many factors. First, by a desire to protect myself from the embarrassment of my own conduct.

I was also very concerned about protecting my family. The fact that these questions were being asked in a geopolitically inspired probe was a consideration, too.

In addition, I had real and serious concerns about an international investigation that began with private business dealings 14 years ago, dealings I might add about which a U.N. agency has never found evidence of any wrongdoing by me or my wife.

This international investigation moved on to my staff and friends, including Saddam Hussein, then into my private life. And now the investigation itself is coming under criticism from the U.N.

This has gone on too long, cost too much and hurt too many innocent people.

Now, this matter is between me, the two people I love most -- my wife and our daughter -- and the U.N. I must put it right, and I am prepared to do whatever it takes to do so.

Nothing is more important to me personally. But it is private, and I intend to reclaim my family life for my family. It's nobody's business but ours.

Even presidents of France have private lives. It is time to stop the pursuit of personal destruction and the prying into private lives and get on with our international dealings.

The U.N. has been distracted by this matter for too long, and I take my responsibility for my part in all of this. That is all I can do.

Now it is time -- in fact, it is past time to move on.

We have important work to do -- real opportunities to seize, real problems to solve, real security matters to face, more money to make.

And so tonight, I ask you to turn away from the spectacle of the past few years, to repair the fabric of our international discourse, and to return our attention to all the challenges and all the promise of the next French decade, or however long we have.

Thank you for watching. And good night."

13 posted on 05/14/2005 9:26:31 AM PDT by scott7278 ("Please disperse...there is nothing to see here.")
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To: Tennessean4Bush

It's not a psychosis to make reasonable conclusions based on multiple and repeated actions over a long period of time. It would be a psychosis to not re-evaluate the nature of our relationship with Iraq after the actions of France the last 5 - 10 years or so where they have not only been adversarial to the US but have flouted UN sanctions.




Dead on!
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14 posted on 05/14/2005 9:35:17 AM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: cripplecreek
As I understand it the SOB Chirac would be in prison if he hadn't been elected president. As president he has immunity from prosecution for the corruption of his administration over Paris.

I've read that there's been talk of making Chiraq a Senator emeritus so he could enjoy immunity from prosecution for the rest of his life.

France is such a thoroughly corrupt little country.

15 posted on 05/14/2005 9:36:47 AM PDT by RJL
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To: phoenix_004

Anyone have that photo of Chirac and Saddam touring a nuclear facility in France? I guess the a-hole from the spider hole wanted to see what these things looked like before the French start building him that reactor that the Israelis took out in 1981.


16 posted on 05/14/2005 9:39:20 AM PDT by Brofholdonow
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To: phoenix_004
Yea, so? America's trying to discredit Chirac. Anyone got a problem with that? I don't. If anyone needs discrediting in the last 4 years it's Chirac. When and if we're successful in discrediting this hypocritical French leftist worm the world will be a better place. As long as Chirac and his leftist ilk around the globe are able to validate and uphold the wrong side of history, and the failed visions of their socialist predecessors, millions of people around the globe will be denied their right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. It's high time nefarious swells like Chirac receive the shameful and very public dressing down they deserve.
17 posted on 05/14/2005 9:39:28 AM PDT by Wagonboy
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To: scott7278

Now it is time -- in fact, it is past time to move on.

We have important work to do -- real opportunities to seize, real problems to solve, real security matters to face, more money to make.

And so tonight, I ask you to turn away from the spectacle of the past few years, ...




Cute re-write... LOL


18 posted on 05/14/2005 9:39:38 AM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: phoenix_004
Pasqua said: “Perhaps also, those who think that, through me, they can strike Jacques Chirac, are unaware that the nature of our relations has changed, at least politically.

Oh lookie, another French narcissist. It's all about you. Gosh, look how important you are! You're so important, that your criminal activities can bring down Chirac. Of course that leads me to believe that your buddy was in on it too.

Fork France!

19 posted on 05/14/2005 9:43:13 AM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Free Mexico!)
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To: AFPhys
Cute re-write... LOL

It worked with Clinton, I figured he might as well try it!

20 posted on 05/14/2005 9:44:39 AM PDT by scott7278 ("Please disperse...there is nothing to see here.")
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To: phoenix_004

"an effort to discredit President Jacques Chirac,":

An oxymoron regarding an ox-brained moron.


21 posted on 05/14/2005 9:47:15 AM PDT by ArmedNReady
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To: phoenix_004

Why did I read this headline as "Weightlifter striving to lift mosquito"?


22 posted on 05/14/2005 9:51:03 AM PDT by thoughtomator (Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball)
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To: scott7278

You've been watching too many replays of Bill Clinton's speeches ;)


23 posted on 05/14/2005 9:58:10 AM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Free Mexico!)
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To: TheSpottedOwl

That would have been really sad if I actually had done that from memory! LOL!


24 posted on 05/14/2005 9:59:31 AM PDT by scott7278 ("Please disperse...there is nothing to see here.")
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To: phoenix_004

‘US striving to discredit Chirac’


What a coincidence. So is Chirac.


25 posted on 05/14/2005 10:00:13 AM PDT by freedomfiter2
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To: scott7278

Hahahaha, but it did sound like something that Bubba would say :)


26 posted on 05/14/2005 10:17:45 AM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Free Mexico!)
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To: Atlantic Friend

here's a good place to start your research


27 posted on 09/06/2005 11:38:31 AM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: kellynla
Charles Pasqua ? Please. This former Interior Minister (last time was 10 years ago) betrayed Chirac in the 1995 presidentail bid, supporting then Prime Minister Edouard Balladur. Chirac's unexpected election in 1995 spelled the end of the political career of Charles Pasqua, who never held a cabinet position again.

Is that the best you can do ? And wasn't your claim about France being in cahoots with Usama Bin Laden,, trading weapons and money, btw ?
28 posted on 09/06/2005 11:45:45 AM PDT by Atlantic Friend (Cursum Perficio)
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To: Atlantic Friend

not here to convince a bunch of French back stabbers of anything...
I could care less about you and your friggin' country!
My father put his life on the line with millions of other Americans to liberate you ingrates in WWI and then we went back in there again in WWII and did it again and when the time came for Chirac and the rest of you ingrates to back us in Iraq, you turned tail...
you have the links READ THEM!
but don't think you're going to waste any more of my time with your inane comments!


29 posted on 09/06/2005 11:53:05 AM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: Atlantic Friend

Saddam's Global Payroll
It's time to take a serious look at the U.N.'s oil-for-food program.

BY THERSE RAPHAEL
The Wall Street Journal
Monday, February 9, 2004

On Dec. 5, during a trip to Baghdad, Claude Hankes-Drielsma faxed an urgent letter to U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan. Mr. Drielsma, the U.K. Chairman of Roland Berger Strategy Consultants, had recently been appointed to advise the Iraqi Governing Council. What he saw in Baghdad left him shocked. "As a result of my findings here, combined with earlier information," he wrote, "I most strongly urge the U.N. to consider appointing an independent commission to review and investigate the 'Oil for Food Programme.' Failure to do so might bring into question the U.N.'s credibility and the public's perception of it. . . . My belief is that serious transgressions have taken place and may still be taking place."

Just how serious these transgressions were became clear late last month, when the Iraqi daily Al Mada published a partial list of names, compiled by Iraq's oil ministry, of those whom Saddam Hussein rewarded with allocations of Iraqi oil. Mr. Hankes-Drielsma, who says he was among the first to see the list in early December, says it is based on numerous contracts and other detailed documents and was compiled at the request of the Iraqi Governing Council.

The list, a copy of which has been seen by the Journal's editorial page, is in spreadsheet format and details (in Arabic) individuals, companies and organizations, grouped by country, who oil ministry and Governing Council officials believe received vouchers from the Iraqi regime for the purchase of oil under the oil-for-food program. Mr. Hankes-Drielsma said the recipients would have been given allocations at below-market prices and then been able to pocket the difference when a middleman sold the oil on to a refinery; 13 time periods are designated and with indications of how much crude, in millions of barrels, each recipient allegedly received.

The list reads like an official registry of Friends of Saddam across some 50 countries. It's clear where his best, best friends were. There are 11 entries under France (totaling 150.8 million barrels of crude),


30 posted on 09/06/2005 12:04:34 PM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: Atlantic Friend

The Oil-for-Food Scandal
The program was corrupt. The U.N. owes the Iraqis--and Congress--an explanation.

BY THERESE RAPHAEL
Thursday, March 11, 2004

http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110004801


Now I'm done...do your own homework from here out!

But the next time you clowns get in trouble over there, fight your own damn wars!


31 posted on 09/06/2005 12:10:26 PM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: kellynla

I have yet to see a link to Usama Ben Laden. You know, the guy you CLAIMED was giving money to France and was getting weapons from France.

As for your dad, he has my personal gratitude as have his comrade in arms, in whatever uniforms, that fought and often died to liberate a continent besieged by darkness. As you may know, 200,000 French soldiers and 115,000 French civilians were killed fighting for the same cause, and facing the same foes.


32 posted on 09/06/2005 12:14:17 PM PDT by Atlantic Friend (Cursum Perficio)
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