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*** BREAKING ON FR *** Peter Paul says Grossman Committed Perjury in Rosen Trial
Peter Paul | 5-14-05 | dfu

Posted on 05/14/2005 11:10:41 AM PDT by doug from upland

In a stunning development in the criminal trial of David Rosen in Los Angeles, whistleblower Peter Paul has said that he believes Andrew Grossman committed perjury in his testimony. It was Grossman's job to take the campaign info and make the official filings to the FEC.

On the stand, Grossman claimed that he never before heard of an event costing a million dollars. Paul says that such is not true.

On June 18, 2001, Grossman was served with a civil suit by Paul. Paul gave him details and copies of checks to advise him on the cost of the event. Grossman cannot claim that he didn't know.

We are continuing to gain the facts in this case and will have more detailed information, hopefully by this evening.


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1 posted on 05/14/2005 11:10:41 AM PDT by doug from upland
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To: cripplecreek

bump


2 posted on 05/14/2005 11:12:40 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Anyone who thinks we believe Hillary on any issue is truly a moron.)
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To: doug from upland

Wow!


3 posted on 05/14/2005 11:12:56 AM PDT by scott7278 ("Please disperse...there is nothing to see here.")
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To: doug from upland
On June 18, 2001, Grossman was served with a civil suit by Paul. Paul gave him details and copies of checks to advise him on the cost of the event. Grossman cannot claim that he didn't know.

Holy Moley!

4 posted on 05/14/2005 11:14:05 AM PDT by tiredoflaundry ("Harry Reid in stripes, I kinda like that image." -Tagline courtesy of DFU. Thanks!)
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To: doug from upland

5 posted on 05/14/2005 11:14:51 AM PDT by StoneGiant
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To: doug from upland

bttt


6 posted on 05/14/2005 11:16:41 AM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: doug from upland
Excellent detective work.

The bad guys are building the usual massive wall of lies to shelter the Clintons. In this case, we are asked to believe that the control freak, micro-managing paranoid sociopath Hillary knew nothing about the biggest campaign finance fraud in American Congressional history.

7 posted on 05/14/2005 11:17:51 AM PDT by FormerACLUmember (Honoring Saint Jude's assistance every day.)
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To: FormerACLUmember; doug from upland

I don't think HRC can escape this.


8 posted on 05/14/2005 11:20:36 AM PDT by scott7278 ("Please disperse...there is nothing to see here.")
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To: doug from upland

Wow! Bump!


9 posted on 05/14/2005 11:20:43 AM PDT by PilloryHillary (Can vegetarians eat animal crackers? pilloryhillary.com)
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To: doug from upland

Can someone do a quick "Connect the Dots" on this story. It looks like a good one but I haven't been following it closely. For example, what is the Grossman connection exactly. How close is this to Her Highness?


10 posted on 05/14/2005 11:27:52 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: scott7278
I don't think HRC can escape this.

I would like very much to agree with you. Hillary, however, will play the "victim" card once again ("the mean, evil Republican men are picking on me!!!") and the sheeple will buy it hook, line, and sinker.

11 posted on 05/14/2005 11:28:29 AM PDT by GreenHornet
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To: doug from upland

wanna take a ride?


12 posted on 05/14/2005 11:28:48 AM PDT by dennisw (the country music station plays soft but there’s nothing, really nothing to turn off)
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To: doug from upland

We'll keep a look-out for any collateral Arkancides in the news...


13 posted on 05/14/2005 11:30:41 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (If you must filibuster, let the Constitution do the talkin')
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To: GreenHornet

She may play the victim card and fool the sheeple, but there will only be 12 that will matter. One can hope, anyway.

Hey, stop messing with my dream! :)


14 posted on 05/14/2005 11:31:11 AM PDT by scott7278 ("Please disperse...there is nothing to see here.")
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To: scott7278
Hey, stop messing with my dream! :)

Okay, I'm with ya, Scott!

15 posted on 05/14/2005 11:34:19 AM PDT by GreenHornet
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To: doug from upland

Grossman sure looks like he's going down.


16 posted on 05/14/2005 11:34:58 AM PDT by demlosers (Rumsfeld: "We don't have an exit strategy, we have a victory strategy.'')
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To: doug from upland

This gets better and better, Doug... you are awesome.


17 posted on 05/14/2005 11:35:31 AM PDT by Fudd Fan (Theodore: the GOOD Roosevelt)
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To: scott7278

** I don't think HRC can escape this. **

That would probably be true, if we had a MSM that were interested in reporting the facts. They'd rather attack Tom Delay non-stop.

It will be interesting to see how this plays out.


18 posted on 05/14/2005 11:35:38 AM PDT by Pepper777
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To: doug from upland
Go get 'em Doug!!!


19 posted on 05/14/2005 11:39:15 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: InterceptPoint

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1401265/posts


20 posted on 05/14/2005 11:40:26 AM PDT by kanawa
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To: doug from upland

*bump*


21 posted on 05/14/2005 11:44:01 AM PDT by tiredoflaundry ("Harry Reid in stripes, I kinda like that image." -Tagline courtesy of DFU. Thanks!)
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To: doug from upland

It appears that Mr.Grossman is going to be offered up on The Clinton Gibbet!He will join a long list!!I wonder how much money he has been offered?


22 posted on 05/14/2005 11:44:47 AM PDT by bandleader
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To: doug from upland

bttt


23 posted on 05/14/2005 11:46:21 AM PDT by tutstar ( <{{--->< Impeach Judge Greer http://www.petitiononline.com/ijg520/petition.html)
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To: scott7278

I would very much like to believe that,but the Clinton Path is strewn with bodies!


24 posted on 05/14/2005 11:46:26 AM PDT by bandleader
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To: InterceptPoint

One step away,the man on trial,David Rosen!


25 posted on 05/14/2005 11:47:32 AM PDT by bandleader
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To: doug from upland

So, uh, Doug ... how about a definitive statement that you are not suicidal so that when you turn up in Ft. Marcy park we know the story that will be told is a lie? Be careful, dude!


26 posted on 05/14/2005 11:48:29 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (The murder of Terri Schindler Schiavo - NOT IN OUR NAME)
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To: All

Grossman was put on notice and had all the information from Paul before his final amended filing to the FEC. Grossman knew. Hillary had to know.


27 posted on 05/14/2005 11:48:53 AM PDT by doug from upland (MOCKING DEMOCRATS 24/7 --- www.rightwingparodies.com)
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To: doug from upland
Bttt.

5.56mm

28 posted on 05/14/2005 11:50:08 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: doug from upland
Damn straight she had to know!
29 posted on 05/14/2005 11:51:16 AM PDT by tiredoflaundry ("Harry Reid in stripes, I kinda like that image." -Tagline courtesy of DFU. Thanks!)
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To: All
Okay, everyone. You can all help connect the dots. How can Grossman get away with his final amended report to the FEC? These people knew but they had to lie because of hard money! Hillary, are you ready for a Senate ethics complaint and hearing? This was the biggest campaign fraud in history.

Attention AP reporters: as always, we are pleased to help you do your job. Just ask us.

30 posted on 05/14/2005 11:52:42 AM PDT by doug from upland (MOCKING DEMOCRATS 24/7 --- www.rightwingparodies.com)
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To: FormerACLUmember
In this case, we are asked to believe that the control freak, micro-managing paranoid sociopath Hillary knew nothing about the biggest campaign finance fraud in American Congressional history.

The judge (a Clintoooon appointee) and prosecutor have already absolved her Heinness.

Go figure.

31 posted on 05/14/2005 11:53:12 AM PDT by Ole Okie
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To: doug from upland
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32 posted on 05/14/2005 11:54:25 AM PDT by tiredoflaundry ("Harry Reid in stripes, I kinda like that image." -Tagline courtesy of DFU. Thanks!)
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To: Ole Okie

Hey, there were REASONS (as numerous as their crimes) that Clinton appointed HIS judges wherever he possibly could.


33 posted on 05/14/2005 11:57:16 AM PDT by Fudd Fan (Theodore: the GOOD Roosevelt)
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To: tiredoflaundry

Tsk tsk, Hitlery - prison stripes are NOT slimming.


34 posted on 05/14/2005 11:59:29 AM PDT by Fudd Fan (Theodore: the GOOD Roosevelt)
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To: Fudd Fan

(evil giggle)


35 posted on 05/14/2005 12:00:21 PM PDT by tiredoflaundry ("Harry Reid in stripes, I kinda like that image." -Tagline courtesy of DFU. Thanks!)
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To: doug from upland
I'm particularly interested in how they got Moynahan to step down. Any info on that ?
36 posted on 05/14/2005 12:00:49 PM PDT by COUNTrecount
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To: tiredoflaundry

...although they might cover those cankles.


37 posted on 05/14/2005 12:01:22 PM PDT by Fudd Fan (Theodore: the GOOD Roosevelt)
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To: COUNTrecount

I don't have any definitive info on Moynihan for ya, but IMO he was not well and knew it - which I believe made him an easy mark when approached about a run by Her Thighness. Carrion eaters don't attack the strong.


38 posted on 05/14/2005 12:03:18 PM PDT by Fudd Fan (Theodore: the GOOD Roosevelt)
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To: doug from upland

Can he say Grossman's lawyer didn't tell him particulars of suit?


39 posted on 05/14/2005 12:06:02 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: doug from upland
Paul gave him details and copies of checks to advise him on the cost of the event. Grossman cannot claim that he didn't know.

Grossman can say that Paul's evidence didn't convince him (for whatever reason) and therefore he did not know the cost of the event, only Paul's allegations about it.

40 posted on 05/14/2005 12:09:23 PM PDT by Grut
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To: doug from upland

I don't think this will hurt HRC directly, but the slime from it may be enough to thwart her ambitions. I am starting to suspect the group she has to fear most are her fellow dems.


41 posted on 05/14/2005 12:14:56 PM PDT by Darkwolf (aka Darkwolf377 (lurker since'01, member since 4/'04)--stop clogging me with pings!)
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To: Fudd Fan
Tsk tsk, Hitlery - prison stripes are NOT slimming

No prob...she'll just have them reversed to vertical instead of horizontal. Much more slimming.

42 posted on 05/14/2005 12:15:08 PM PDT by Just A Nobody
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To: scott7278
I don't think HRC can escape this.

I've got a bridge for sale....anyone around here interested?

43 posted on 05/14/2005 12:19:07 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (I don't drink and FReep...it just looks that way)
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To: doug from upland
On the stand, Grossman claimed that he never before heard of an event costing a million dollars. Paul says that such is not true.

Before when? Before this event (the big HW gala)? Before this trial? Before he was served with suit by Paul in 2001? Or, before he filed the reports with the FEC?

I can't tell from your post exactly what Grossman said on the stand. Apparently, Paul must have been at the trial and believes Grossman lied.

44 posted on 05/14/2005 12:19:34 PM PDT by n-tres-ted (Remember November!)
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To: ErnBatavia

Does it come with ocean front property in Arizona? Let me put down my ketchup popsicle and get back with you...


45 posted on 05/14/2005 12:20:28 PM PDT by scott7278 ("Please disperse...there is nothing to see here.")
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To: Grut
Grossman can say that Paul's evidence didn't convince him (for whatever reason) and therefore he did not know the cost of the event, only Paul's allegations about it.

What they cannot do is claim on the stand, as Rosen has, that Paul hid the costs from him; and then simultanously claim that Paul told them the costs but they didn't believe his 'claims'.


46 posted on 05/14/2005 12:21:45 PM PDT by Nick Danger (Honey, Intel wants to go outside)
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To: doug from upland

FACT: Andrew Grossman committed perjury in his testimony.

FACT: Grossman is an anti American leftist through and thorugh.

MAYBE: isn't this the guy that spied against America and for the Jewish state? With friends like this who needs enemies? His name sounds familiar, but am not sure. That is why I put it under the MAYBE category.


47 posted on 05/14/2005 12:22:29 PM PDT by Baraonda (Demographic is destiny. Don't hire 3rd world illegal aliens nor support businesses that hire them.)
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To: FormerACLUmember

Hillary knew and tried - and contiues to try- to cover it all up.


48 posted on 05/14/2005 12:24:22 PM PDT by Baraonda (Demographic is destiny. Don't hire 3rd world illegal aliens nor support businesses that hire them.)
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To: scott7278
Does it come with ocean front property in Arizona?

If Colorado riverfront works for you, here's a teaser:

49 posted on 05/14/2005 12:25:31 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (I don't drink and FReep...it just looks that way)
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To: doug from upland
On the stand, Grossman claimed that he never before heard of an event costing a million dollars.

Hillary flashback - "I don't recall."

50 posted on 05/14/2005 12:29:19 PM PDT by concerned about politics (Vote Republican - Vote morally correct!)
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