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Mexican leader criticized for comment on blacks
CNN.Com - U.S. ^ | Saturday, May 14, 2005 Posted: 8:16 PM EDT (0016 GMT) | CNN

Posted on 05/14/2005 7:13:43 PM PDT by F15Eagle

'That level of dialogue doesn't merit comment'

(CNN) -- A top U.S. civil rights figure on Saturday criticized Mexican President Vicente Fox's comment that Mexican immigrants to the United States take jobs "that not even blacks want to do."

The Rev. Jesse Jackson called the remark "a spurious comparison" with "ominous racial overtones."

A Mexican official defended Fox later in the day, saying his description was not meant as an insult.

"The president didn't make a declaration in the racist sense; of course there are those who interpret it in that way," Foreign Relations Secretary Luis Derbez told a reporter in the Mexican state of Jalisco.

According to Derbez, Fox was making the point that "Mexican migrants are making great contributions in the United States and that their role is a positive role."

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1 posted on 05/14/2005 7:13:43 PM PDT by F15Eagle
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To: F15Eagle

I'm sure Bush spent all day long apologizing to Fox, as he was "forced" to sign a law he did not want.


2 posted on 05/14/2005 7:15:32 PM PDT by Guillermo (Bush is no conservative. Don't insult my intelligence by telling me that he is)
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To: Cindy; yonif; Alouette; Yehuda; dennisw; Lent; TorahTrueJew; Travis McGee; Jeff Head; rdb3; ...
Fox was making the point that "Mexican migrants are making great contributions in the United States and that their role is a positive role."

Yeah, like not paying taxes on income earned inside the USA, etc.
3 posted on 05/14/2005 7:15:37 PM PDT by F15Eagle
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To: F15Eagle

"The president didn't make a declaration in the racist sense; of course there are those who interpret it in that way,"


Only leftists hope to get a pass from the media or the public when making racially obnoxious remarks.


4 posted on 05/14/2005 7:17:40 PM PDT by Enchante (Kerry's mere nuisances: Marine Barracks '83, WTC '93, Khobar Towers, Embassy Bombs '98, USS Cole!!!)
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To: F15Eagle

How could it be anything other than racist? Why not say poor whites or Asians?

Who knows? Maybe the black backlash will finally stop this invasion?


5 posted on 05/14/2005 7:17:52 PM PDT by TFine80
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To: Guillermo
A Mexican official defended Fox later in the day, saying his description was not meant as an insult.

rotflol. Good to know Fox has comedians on his staff.
6 posted on 05/14/2005 7:18:49 PM PDT by F15Eagle
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To: F15Eagle; All

Extraordinarily humorous.

When is everyone going to get it through their thick skulls that Hispanics aren't a race; they're a culture.

So, for once, Jesse may be on to something. Besides, anyone who has lived side-by-side with both groups know of the animosity that exixts between them. Except for Liberals, of course.


7 posted on 05/14/2005 7:19:31 PM PDT by x1stcav (Hooahh!)
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To: F15Eagle
Vicente Fox's comment that Mexican immigrants to the United States take jobs "that not even blacks want to do."

Kudos to Fox for giving such high praise of his fellow citizens.
8 posted on 05/14/2005 7:19:46 PM PDT by rs79bm
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To: TFine80

I agree. I'm caucasian and it didn't sound right to me.


9 posted on 05/14/2005 7:20:57 PM PDT by F15Eagle
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To: F15Eagle

"of course there are those that interpret it in that way"

In other words, people that THINK it is a racist remark are the racists? oh, yeah.....i get it....not


10 posted on 05/14/2005 7:21:26 PM PDT by Txsleuth ( Mark Levin for Supreme Court Justice)
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To: F15Eagle

Jesse Jackson needs to lead the million man border patrol.


11 posted on 05/14/2005 7:21:59 PM PDT by bahblahbah
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To: x1stcav
When is everyone going to get it through their thick skulls that Hispanics aren't a race; they're a culture

That's true. Perhaps it's "culturally insensitive" but it wasn't a wise thing to say.
12 posted on 05/14/2005 7:23:01 PM PDT by F15Eagle
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To: F15Eagle

Like murdering police officers in cold blood...

And then hightailing it to Mexico, where they will never be brought to justice.


13 posted on 05/14/2005 7:23:14 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: F15Eagle

"The Rev. Jesse Jackson called the remark 'a spurious comparison' with 'ominous racial overtones.'"

Go get em' Jesse.

Stupid racist Mexican President.


14 posted on 05/14/2005 7:23:18 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: F15Eagle

Every once in a while, one of these comments which reflect the true nature of the views on race south of the border, slips past the media gatekeepers.


15 posted on 05/14/2005 7:23:31 PM PDT by B Knotts (Viva il Papa!)
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To: Txsleuth; bahblahbah

hehe


16 posted on 05/14/2005 7:24:05 PM PDT by F15Eagle
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To: F15Eagle

Not to mention it's clearly propaganda... Obviously the issue is the wages plus the fact they don't pay taxes. Illegal immigration is one of the worst things to happen to unskilled Americans -- black or otherwise.


17 posted on 05/14/2005 7:24:13 PM PDT by TFine80
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To: F15Eagle

I guess only whites are required to be pc about such matters.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/967650/posts


18 posted on 05/14/2005 7:24:41 PM PDT by LouAvul
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To: rs79bm

Very true about Fox even demeaning his own citizens. I have several Mexican friends and they would not be pleased by that statement. Neither would my black friends, of course.


19 posted on 05/14/2005 7:26:01 PM PDT by F15Eagle
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To: TFine80

I agree 100%.


20 posted on 05/14/2005 7:27:15 PM PDT by F15Eagle
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To: F15Eagle

Vince Fox is a white racist.


21 posted on 05/14/2005 7:29:20 PM PDT by InABunkerUnderSF (San Francisco - See It Before God Smites It.)
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To: Guillermo
"The president didn't make a declaration in the racist sense; of course there are those who interpret it in that way," Foreign Relations Secretary Luis Derbez told a reporter in the Mexican state of Jalisco. According to Derbez, Fox was making the point that "Mexican migrants are making great contributions in the United States and that their role is a positive role."

Yes he did, go get him Jesse!

22 posted on 05/14/2005 7:29:58 PM PDT by quesera (“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”)
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To: F15Eagle

Didn't a Japanese prime minister get raked over the coals for saying something to the effect that the US is made backward due to its minorities?


23 posted on 05/14/2005 7:30:43 PM PDT by struwwelpeter
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To: struwwelpeter

Hadn't heard that. Interesting.


24 posted on 05/14/2005 7:32:36 PM PDT by F15Eagle
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To: F15Eagle

Sensitivity training is in order for Señor Fox.


25 posted on 05/14/2005 7:39:53 PM PDT by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: F15Eagle
racial overtones

Overtones!?! That is as much an overtone as Al Gore's makeup job during the 2000 debates.

26 posted on 05/14/2005 7:41:09 PM PDT by Ruth A.
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To: F15Eagle
It was a long time ago. The only trace I can find online is on this blog:
...Prime Minister Yasuhiro Nakasone, who, in 1986, asserted that America was intellectually inferior to Japan "because of a considerable number of Blacks, Puerto Ricans and Mexicans."

27 posted on 05/14/2005 7:41:38 PM PDT by struwwelpeter
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To: F15Eagle

Blacks are the stepping stones of the Hispanics.

Are blacks finally waking up to this fact?


28 posted on 05/14/2005 7:42:25 PM PDT by twas
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To: x1stcav
When is everyone going to get it through their thick skulls that Hispanics aren't a race

National Council of La Raza

Maybe when they stop referring to themselves as "the race".

29 posted on 05/14/2005 7:46:52 PM PDT by twas
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To: x1stcav

The term "Hispanic" is really a creation of the left. The purpose is really to meld numerous diverse Spanish speaking cultures into a politically powerful large group of angry victims that will naturally vote for Democrats.

I have often wondered if immigrants directly to the US from Spain and their descendents are "Hispanics".


30 posted on 05/14/2005 7:52:43 PM PDT by nb5180
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To: nb5180

Or what about Brazilians, who have nothing to do with Spain?

Or Latin American Indians?


31 posted on 05/14/2005 8:04:34 PM PDT by TFine80
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To: F15Eagle

I figured this one would bring "Rev-run" Race-Pimp out of his hole...


32 posted on 05/14/2005 8:06:04 PM PDT by TXnMA (ATTN, ACLU & NAACP: There's no constitutionally protected right to NOT be offended -- Shove It!)
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To: Enchante

What a dumb post. Its impossiible that Vicente Fox made a racist statement about Blacks. Everyone knows that its only possible for White Males to make racist statements. Just ask Spike Lee.


33 posted on 05/14/2005 8:15:51 PM PDT by rbg81
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To: F15Eagle

Jesse ("the impregnator of many women to which he is not married") Jackson's comment is strange. Ususally, these racist minority thugs only attack white, male Christians and never one another. Don't worru, Vicente, Jesse didn't mean to hurt your feelings. That's the end of it!


34 posted on 05/14/2005 8:17:07 PM PDT by Tacis ( SEAL THE FRIGGEN BORDER!!!)
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To: TFine80

"Who knows? Maybe the black backlash will finally stop this invasion?"

Dream on, pal. It would be nice though.


35 posted on 05/14/2005 8:19:09 PM PDT by Free and Armed
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To: F15Eagle
The Rev. Jesse Jackson called the remark "a spurious comparison" with "ominous racial overtones."

I'm in agreement with Jackson. Does this mean that hell is freezing over?
36 posted on 05/14/2005 8:25:10 PM PDT by redheadtoo
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To: F15Eagle

What is this frigging Fox after in the US, a Black/Hispanic race war?

Oh well, after all, the Fox is in the Bush hen (white) house.


37 posted on 05/14/2005 8:25:38 PM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: F15Eagle
A top U.S. civil rights figure on Saturday criticized Mexican President Vicente Fox's comment that Mexican immigrants to the United States take jobs "that not even blacks want to do."

I don't believe it. Minorities are fighting. Well, at least they're not blaming white folk (this time).

39 posted on 05/14/2005 8:41:34 PM PDT by NRA2BFree (Under construction.)
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To: redheadtoo
I'm in agreement with Jackson. Does this mean that hell is freezing over?

Yeah, I have to agree with Jackson on this one, too.
40 posted on 05/14/2005 8:42:23 PM PDT by F15Eagle
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To: Brilliant

(Like murdering police officers in cold blood... )

Even if there were true for a handful of cases (I'm not even sure that is true), you are making a huge over-generalization over all Mexicans who are here. I hope we don't move from attacking the issue to attacking Mexicans. Apart from the fact that most of them are law-abiding citizens, their social values make them natural allies to Conservatives if we are not seen as attacking them while working out a reasonable solution that protects the sovereignty of the US.


41 posted on 05/14/2005 8:56:25 PM PDT by winner3000 (part)
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To: Brilliant

(Like murdering police officers in cold blood... )

Even if there were true for a handful of cases (I'm not even sure that is true), you are making a huge over-generalization over all Mexicans who are here. I hope we don't move from attacking the issue to attacking Mexicans. Apart from the fact that most of them are law-abiding citizens, their social values make them natural allies to Conservatives if we are not seen as attacking them while working out a reasonable solution that protects the sovereignty of the US.


42 posted on 05/14/2005 8:57:09 PM PDT by winner3000 (part)
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To: F15Eagle; CHARLITE; MeekOneGOP; devolve; potlatch; JohnHuang2; keri; international american; ...
RACEBAITING BACKFIRE AT THE EL PRESIDENTE LEVEL (Jessie Jackson has a new target.)

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A top U.S. civil rights figure on Saturday criticized Mexican President Vicente Fox's comment that Mexican immigrants to the United States take jobs "that not even blacks want to do."

43 posted on 05/14/2005 8:58:54 PM PDT by Happy2BMe ("Viva La Migra" - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: F15Eagle

"Vincente Fox, starring in, "CLUELESS IV, SOUTH OF THE BORDER".


44 posted on 05/14/2005 9:04:13 PM PDT by Tuscaloosa Goldfinch (Thank goodness "Terayza" is not first lady.)
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To: Tuscaloosa Goldfinch

LOL


45 posted on 05/14/2005 9:07:36 PM PDT by F15Eagle
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To: Tuscaloosa Goldfinch

Okay, does this mean that Condi gets to officially kick Vicente's ass?

Be Seeing You,

Chris

46 posted on 05/14/2005 9:07:54 PM PDT by section9 (Major Motoko Kusanagi says, "Jesus is Coming. Everybody look busy...")
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To: section9

Hmm, that's a thought.


47 posted on 05/14/2005 9:10:10 PM PDT by Tuscaloosa Goldfinch (Thank goodness "Terayza" is not first lady.)
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To: F15Eagle
A Mexican official defended Fox later in the day, saying his description was not meant as an insult.

Blech

48 posted on 05/14/2005 9:11:08 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (Yo! Cowboy! I'm praying for a LoganMiracle! It CAN happen!!!!)
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To: F15Eagle
Fox, De tal palo tal astilla!

49 posted on 05/14/2005 9:18:31 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: F15Eagle
"Mexican migrants are making great contributions in the United States and that their role is a positive role."

And when contrasted with the original statement, this also comes off as racist. It is saying that blacks contributions are not (or not as) positive. Keep digging; I like watching the hole deepen.

Pass the popcorn, please.

50 posted on 05/14/2005 9:25:56 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The world needs more work horses, and fewer Jackasses!)
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