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CA: Lawmaker trying again to address 1930's deportations [to Mexico]
AP - San Luis Obispo Tribune ^ | May. 15, 2005 | STEVE LAWRENCE

Posted on 05/15/2005 7:15:20 PM PDT by calcowgirl

SACRAMENTO - An Orange County lawmaker is trying again to make amends for a shocking but little known episode in American history - one he discovered because he wanted a book to read on a cross-country flight.

"Decade of Betrayal" tells the story of the deportation of about 2 million Hispanics, including 400,000 Californians, to Mexico between 1929 and 1944. An aide gave it to state Sen. Joe Dunn, D-Garden Grove, about four years ago and he grabbed it to read on a trip to the East Coast.

"I was blown away by it," he said in a recent interview. "It was a chapter of American history that I'd never ever heard a thing about. I was shocked to read about it."

The program was started by the Hoover administration, supposedly as a way to get rid of illegal immigrants and open up jobs during the Depression. But the overwhelming majority of the people shipped to Mexico were American citizens or legal immigrants, Dunn said.

Some were able to return because they were drafted to fight for the United States in World War II.

A number of states, including California, continued the deportations even after the Roosevelt administration cut off funding for them, Dunn said. Los Angeles County was particularly active, with county supervisors overriding legality concerns raised by the county counsel.

"Anybody that had a Mexican sounding name was literally taken from their beds and shipped to Mexico," Dunn said.

Dunn responded with bills to give the victims of the deportation a new opportunity to file lawsuits seeking damages and to set up a state commission to recommend how to redress the wrongs suffered by the deportees.

Former Gov. Gray Davis vetoed the lawsuit bill in 2003 shortly before he was forced from office by a recall election. Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger turned down the commission legislation last year.

This year Dunn has introduced a bill that would create the redress commission, a window for lawsuits and a fund to pay reparations to surviving deportees who file claims. It would take separate legislation, however, to put money in that account.

He's also introduced a second bill that would express a state apology for the episode and require placement of a plaque commemorating the deportees.

Dunn said he separated the proposals into two bills because he's convinced Schwarzenegger will veto the reparations measure, and he wants the state to take at least a symbolic step while some of the California deportees are still alive.

"At the very least the state ought to, before the last survivor passes away, formally apologize for its role in the deportation of U.S. citizens for one reason - they were of Mexican decent," he said.

Schwarzenegger hasn't taken a position on either bill, his office said.

The apology bill is scheduled to be considered Monday by the Senate Appropriations Committee. The reparations bill is awaiting a hearing in the same committee.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; california; deportation; illegalimmigration; illegals; immigration; joedunn; mexicanreparations; mexico; reparations; repatriation; sb645; sb670

1 posted on 05/15/2005 7:15:23 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: calcowgirl
LegInfo: SB 670
SB 670 - Dunn  * Mexican repatriation program of the 1930s.

BILL NUMBER: SB 670 - INTRODUCED

BILL TEXT

INTRODUCED BY   Senator Dunn
FEBRUARY 22, 2005

An act relating to Mexican repatriation.

LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL'S DIGEST

SB 670, as introduced, Dunn.   Mexican repatriation program of the
1930s.

This bill would enact the "Apology Act for the 1930s Mexican
Repatriation Program" and make findings and declarations regarding
the unconstitutional removal and coerced emigration of United States
citizens and legal residents of Mexican descent, between the years
1929 and 1944, to Mexico from the United States during the 1930s
"Mexican Repatriation" Program.

The bill would express the apology of the State of California to
those individuals who were illegally deported and coerced into
emigrating to Mexico and would require that a plaque be placed and
maintained in a public place to commemorate this event.

Vote: majority. Appropriation: no. Fiscal committee: yes.
State-mandated local program: no.

2 posted on 05/15/2005 7:18:18 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: calcowgirl

My respect for Herbert Hoover has just increased 20 fold.


3 posted on 05/15/2005 7:19:37 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: calcowgirl
LegInfo: SB 645
SB 645 - Dunn  * Mexican repatriation: commission.

BILL NUMBER: SB 645 - AMENDED

BILL TEXT

AMENDED IN SENATE  APRIL 4, 2005

INTRODUCED BY   Senator Dunn

FEBRUARY 22, 2005

An act to add Section 354.9 to the Code of Civil Procedure, and to
add Chapter 3.2 (commencing with Section 8253) to Division 1 of
Title 2 of the Government Code, relating to Mexican repatriation.

LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL'S DIGEST

SB 645, as amended, Dunn.  Mexican repatriation: commission.

(1) Existing law establishes various advisory boards and
commissions in state government with specified duties and
responsibilities.

This bill would, until January 1, 2008, create the commission 
on the Unconstitutional Deportation of American Citizens 
during the 1930's within state government. The bill would require the
commission to, among other things, gather facts regarding, and
conduct a study of, the unconstitutional removal and coerced
emigration of United States citizens and legal residents of Mexican
descent, between 1929 and 1944, to Mexico during the 1930's
"Repatriation" Program.

(snip)

4 posted on 05/15/2005 7:21:02 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: calcowgirl

Anybody know of any documentation to support this claim?


5 posted on 05/15/2005 7:22:31 PM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: calcowgirl

The truth is that at area 51 we have a time machine that was left by aliens. Bush used it and went back in time and told Hoover to do this.


6 posted on 05/15/2005 7:24:22 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (Get all the incumbents out of politics!)
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To: Brilliant

Mine as well.


7 posted on 05/15/2005 7:27:51 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: facedown
I'm reading some old articles not... it appears to be the same bogus propaganda that we see today.
UNREGISTERED MEXICANS SAFE; 
They Will Not Be Deported, 
Federal Official Says Terms Vincent-Copeland Measure Explained Provisions 
of Act Not in Any Way Compulsory 
Los Angeles Times, Jul 5, 1929. p. A5 (1 page) 

Due to a misunderstanding of the intent and application of the Vincent-Copeland Act 
regarding the registration of aliens there has been considerable unrest among Mexican 
laborers in Southern California during the past few weeks, according to the agricultural 
deparment of the Los Angeles Chamber of Commerce.  Unfounded rumor, together 
with inaccurate statements in the Mexican press, have given the impression that aliens who 
did not register with the Immigration Service prior to July 1 would be deported.  As a result 
there has been some migration of Mexican laborers from centers of greatest need at this time.

(snip)

8 posted on 05/15/2005 7:32:21 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: calcowgirl

Here is a sympathetic story from the leftist Detroit Metro Times

http://www.metrotimes.com/editorial/story.asp?id=6549
Thrown out
The Depression-era deportation of thousands of Mexicans still resonates in Detroit and beyond
by Tom Schram
7/28/2004

---
Here is a website of the activists, claiming that 60% of those deported were U.S. Citizens.

http://www.losrepatriados.org/
The Story of Los Repatriados


9 posted on 05/15/2005 7:40:42 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: calcowgirl

Makes you almost yearn for the "good old days",doesn't it?


11 posted on 05/15/2005 7:44:40 PM PDT by Mears (Keep the government out of my face!)
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To: calcowgirl

... that would create the redress commission, a window for lawsuits and a fund to pay reparations to surviving deportees who file claims. It would take separate legislation, however, to put money in that account...
-----
These leftists will DO ANYTHING for a vote -- including the continuing process of THROWING YOUR TAX DOLLARS AWAY. This is as maniacal and stupid as those idiots in our own Congress that were trying to extort the taxpayers to pay reparations TO PEOPLE WHO WERE NEVER SLAVES!!!!

Liberalism is truly a MENTAL DISORDER...


12 posted on 05/15/2005 7:50:15 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: penndragon
Do you agree the America should apologize for these events that took place? And should reparation be applied once the apology is delivered?

I assume that whatever you're smoking was grown in Mexico.

13 posted on 05/15/2005 7:51:40 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: facedown

Apparently Senator Dunn based his action on a book:

--Decade of Betrayal: Mexican Repatriation in the 1930s
--by Francisco E. Balderrama, Raymond Rodriguez

The book reviews at Amazon are telling!

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0826315755/

ERacism, September 16, 2003
Reviewer: A reader

I read the review by Michael Sturdevant and think he is probably a racists. I have took classes with Dr. Balderrama and can tell you he is a excellent teacher. He teaches his Chicano students about victimology and how they are victims of white America. This is very true. Some teachers think that Chicanos are struggling to get ahead because they are not as educated as white people. But Balderrama teached us that it is because we are victims that we can't make enough as the white people.

That is why Balderrama is suing the US government. Then the Chicano people will have billions of dollars to share with him. And we don't need to get more education. Just more money. I believe in Balderrama, I believe in victimology, and I only wish all Chicanos believed in victimology, then we would all be as rich as the white people.


14 posted on 05/15/2005 7:53:50 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: penndragon

No, I don't agree that there should be any apology. I am reading articles that do not support this warped look at history. I support sending Senator Dunn and our other "esteemed" California Legislators a letter stating that acknowledging this kind of propaganda is outrageous and that the bills should be rescinded! I also support whoever is going to campaign against Dunn in the next election!

The book is advertised on most of the good Communist sympathizing websites like AFSC, Maldef, etc. No apologies, no reparations and no more propaganda!


15 posted on 05/15/2005 7:57:53 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: Brilliant

You support the deportation of American citizens based on race?


16 posted on 05/15/2005 8:01:07 PM PDT by sharktrager (The masses will trade liberty for a more quiet life.)
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To: Mears

I am SO SICK of the white liberals wallowing in guilt over historical things that are probably made up in the first place. Just get on with it.


17 posted on 05/15/2005 8:03:44 PM PDT by bboop
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To: calcowgirl

No way, NO apologies. Victims indeed!!! Life is tough, suck it in and get over it.


18 posted on 05/15/2005 8:05:26 PM PDT by bboop
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To: sharktrager

I'm guessing it's based on US citizenship status, or lack thereof.


19 posted on 05/15/2005 8:05:45 PM PDT by TheDon (Euthanasia is an atrocity.)
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To: gubamyster

ping


20 posted on 05/15/2005 8:09:10 PM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: bboop

I know---it's ridiculous.

I'm still waiting for the Brits to apologize to my ancestors for forcing them to leave Ireland so they wouldn't starve during the famine.(Kidding,of course)

The last 20 years has been nothing but apologies and requests for reparations. How the heck far back do they want to go.


21 posted on 05/15/2005 8:12:25 PM PDT by Mears (Keep the government out of my face!)
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To: TheDon
The program was started by the Hoover administration, supposedly as a way to get rid of illegal immigrants and open up jobs during the Depression. But the overwhelming majority of the people shipped to Mexico were American citizens or legal immigrants, Dunn said.
22 posted on 05/15/2005 8:13:56 PM PDT by sharktrager (The masses will trade liberty for a more quiet life.)
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To: Rabid Dog

This was a great statement to the validity of the supposed deportation of US citizens in the 20's. Good reading.


23 posted on 05/15/2005 8:20:17 PM PDT by Snapping Turtle (Snap on and don't let go!)
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To: calcowgirl

So many victems, so few victemizers. But what the h*ll! We will just penalize people who had nothing to do with the victemizing, but do have pockets we can mine. We're creating new victems???????Do tell........


24 posted on 05/15/2005 8:21:54 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (If bullsh*t was fuel-the liberal dems would be a national......nay...... international treasure.)
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To: Rabid Dog

The Amazon.com review was a great testament to the validity of the supposed deportation of US citizens in the 20's. Good reading.


25 posted on 05/15/2005 8:22:48 PM PDT by Snapping Turtle (Snap on and don't let go!)
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To: calcowgirl

If true, an apology's in order.


26 posted on 05/15/2005 8:29:03 PM PDT by elfman2 (This space is intentionally left blank.)
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To: Snapping Turtle

There were also some very long reviews which challenged the accuracy and presentation of information in the book. Apparently, the author went to great lenghths to ignore facts and mischaracterize reality.

Here is a snip from one:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0826315755/

Reviewer: Christopher J Wiley (Bayonne, New Jersey) - See all my reviews

The deportations of the 1930s need to be put into historical perspective and not just labeled as another incident of how bad America is to Mexicans. In 1924, the Immigration Act shut down immigration from Europe; Mexicans were EXEMPTED from such quotas between 1924 and 1965 (unacknowledged by most Chicano polemicists who can't deal with the fact that a policy was biased against white Europeans benefitted non whites). According to historian John Womack, some 900,000 Mexicans entered the US between 1924 and 1930, some 630,000 illegally. So this wave continued unabated into the Depression, and with 25% unemployment, the Federal government decided to crack down on this migration. Europeans were not targeted because the waves of immigartion had already been shut down, and those who did enter did so legally throught the nation's ports; most Mexicans entered through a land border. Abraham Hoffman puts the number involved and deportedat 400,000, not 1 million, with about half leaving voluntarily and half forced. Fifty percent were US citizens, largely the children of illegal immigrants who left with their parents.

(snip)


27 posted on 05/15/2005 8:31:52 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: calcowgirl
"Abraham Hoffman puts the number involved and deportedat 400,000, not 1 million, with about half leaving voluntarily and half forced. Fifty percent were US citizens, largely the children of illegal immigrants who left with their parents. "

“Largely”?

28 posted on 05/15/2005 8:40:45 PM PDT by elfman2 (This space is intentionally left blank.)
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To: calcowgirl

Thanks for the research effort. Had a hunch.


29 posted on 05/15/2005 8:54:05 PM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: facedown

I posted it on a hunch.

Now we need to tell Senator Dunn what we think!
Senator.Dunn@sen.ca.gov


http://www.overlawyered.com/archives/001327.html

July 22, 2004
Calif. state senator Joe Dunn

He made a fortune suing doctors, then moved up to the California State Senate as a Democrat representing Orange County communities including Anaheim, Santa Ana, Fullerton and Garden Grove. Now he's one of the chief guardians of trial lawyer interests in Sacramento. Will he run for state attorney general in 2006? (Michael A. Glueck, "The runaway trial lawyer", Jewish World Review, Jul. 9). Dunn was chief sponsor of the first-in-the-nation bill signed into law by Gov. Gray Davis last year, authorizing lawyers to file private damage suits over labor code violations; see Oct. 20.


30 posted on 05/15/2005 9:01:04 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: sharktrager

Right, that's the author's claim. I don't think there are any takers on FR. Those deported were illegal immigrants.


31 posted on 05/15/2005 10:06:15 PM PDT by TheDon (Euthanasia is an atrocity.)
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To: sharktrager

I support deporting people based on the fact that they are illegal immigrants.


32 posted on 05/16/2005 4:57:07 AM PDT by Brilliant
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