Posted on 05/16/2005 6:25:30 AM PDT by jalisco555
(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
I generally agree with this, but there is a TINY sliver of a point in Frank's screed. The point is that a lot (most?) self-professed GOP conservative politions give a lot of lip service to the demands of us social conservatives; in turn we vote for these politicians, and then, once elected, they seem to either forget our demands entirely or at best make only a token effort to enact them. These politicans (and this includes Dubya himself) better realize that we social conservatives are the ones who took the GOP to the dance, and they darn well better show us plenty of attention!!
Not to mention Antonin Scalia.
I agree.
What you said.
Frank's lack of specific proposals underscores a common critique: that Democrats on the national level don't stand for anything. Yet he also reminds us that Democrats do stand for something quite far-reaching: the certitude of their own virtue in a wicked world.
I was just thinking the other day, how easy it is to see hypocrisy all around me. Keeps me from pondering and repenting.
Of course, casting stones is big business these days.
Or they darn well know what they do stand for will get them run out of office in any but the bluest regions of the blue states.
Hillary is leaning to the right for 2008, but her feet are still firmly planted on the left.
I am looking forward to a Allen presidential run for just these reasons. The only drawback to it would be if he pussy-foots around about exposing hillary for what she is. In which case we will then have our heads handed to us by someone who shouldn't stand a chance to win.
Anybody got any suggestions on this one?
Well Put.
Republicans need to understand that Conservatives vote Republican because Democrats vote Liberal.
If Democrats were to toss out every Liberal in their Party, and become a Party more Conservative than Republicans, the Republicans would lose a lot of their base support leaving only RINO's and "moderates".
Conservative first, Republican second.
"These politicans (and this includes Dubya himself) better realize that we social conservatives are the ones who took the GOP to the dance, and they darn well better show us plenty of attention!!"
Not if senators McCain, Arlen and Hagel have anything to do with it.
Draft Cheney. He don't pussyfoot.
"Not if senators McCain, Arlen and Hagel have anything to do with it."
Those guys are RINOs. No one should expect THEM to do any heavy lifting for social conservatives.
"Frank's lack of specific proposals underscores a common critique: that Democrats on the national level don't stand for anything."
They stand for the same thing they always have for most of our lifetime. That is, to enact a full welfare state. Most of them would be even happier to extend such a state on a global level, with the U.N. collecting taxes from countries like the US, and redistributing it elsewhere.
The Dems stripes haven't changed, just that their objectives aren't too popular right now, so they don't dare speak openly about it.
If there is one immediate task they would like to accomplish, it would be to "fix" the deficit and the economy. No, that doesn't mean cutting federal expenditures. Sound fiscal policy would mean raising taxes. The ever growing debt and widening deficit just might provide the national Dems with the chance to run with that plank in the next election. Too bad W doesn't like small government conservatism.
"Those guys are RINOs. No one should expect THEM to do any heavy lifting for social conservatives."
Agreed. But they do seem to throw their weight around pretty good, and derail conservative reforms from passing.
Only because "leader" Frist and the rest of the conservative GOP senate leadership (are you listening Rick Santorum) don't have the Nadz or ambition to shove them aside.
That this is a "key point" illustrates just how out of touch liberals are. They cannot grasp the fact that business creates jobs, and that to ensure continued success and prosperity, a business owner must treat his employees fairly.
The answer to the question "Why do those people vote against their self-interest?" is "They don't.". Don't expect the left to understand that, however.
I dream of this day, and I believe that a nationwide grassroots movement to "toss the liberals out" would do a world of good for both parties: It would make the democRats a viable party again, and would definitely sober up the Republicans and make them toe the line. It could even bring back a government of, by, and for the people.
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