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Gov. Directs Staff to Prepare for Special Election Campaign [Arnold's going "nuclear", too!]
LA Times ^ | 5/17/05 | Robert Salladay

Posted on 05/16/2005 9:05:45 PM PDT by Timeout

SACRAMENTO -- After five months of failing to sway Democrats to his "year of reform," Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger has directed his political staff to prepare for a special-election campaign that would denigrate the California Legislature and its union benefactors.

Escalating the governor's fight, chief political consultant Mike Murphy said Monday that Schwarzenegger may endorse an initiative that could hobble the money-raising machine of public employee unions. Murphy said the governor has asked him to conduct polling and voter focus groups on a so-called paycheck protection initiative.

"Arnold has not touched the Legislature with a feather yet compared to what the real campaign will be," said Murphy, one of the governor's closest advisers. "It's a referendum on the governor versus the Legislature, and he will win."

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: arnold; borderpolice; borders; breakthedemdeathgrip; budget; ca; california; deficits; goarnold; illegals; redistricting; savecalifornia; schwarzenegger; specialelection; taxes; unionsliepensionsdie; unionthugs
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Woo Hoo!

The donkeys wanted nuclear war...looks like they're going to get one from sea to shining sea!

1 posted on 05/16/2005 9:05:45 PM PDT by Timeout
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To: Timeout

This is upside -- let's hope the Terminator does well. All eyes are on him -- his legacy is in the making...


2 posted on 05/16/2005 9:07:40 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: Howlin

Check this out...and buckle your seatbelt.

Things are about to get verrrrry interesting.


3 posted on 05/16/2005 9:07:51 PM PDT by Timeout (Dean & the Bike Path Left: aging anti-warriors who use "summer" as a verb~~Jonah)
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To: Timeout

GO GOVERNATOR


4 posted on 05/16/2005 9:09:04 PM PDT by SmithL (Proud Submariner)
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To: Timeout
"They point to his declining popularity ratings"

Dream on chumps. When push comes to shove, the people will vote to lighten the load, and the Democrats are going to be tossed overboard.

5 posted on 05/16/2005 9:09:43 PM PDT by Enterprise (Coming soon from Newsweek: "Fallujah - we had to destroy it in order to save it.")
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To: EagleUSA

I'd let the legacy crap rest, just get the damn job done and done right.


6 posted on 05/16/2005 9:11:37 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... The War on Terrorism is the ultimate 'faith-based' initiative.)
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To: Timeout

WOW.....call him the NUCLEATOR......sounds like the Dems have underestimated his FISCAL side......


7 posted on 05/16/2005 9:12:16 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Our military......the world's HEROES!)
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To: Timeout

Wow, could it be the Republicans are going to be emboldened by their meager moves toward GROWING A SET! and actually start begaving as if they had a majority in this country?! The mind boggles!


8 posted on 05/16/2005 9:12:51 PM PDT by Darkwolf (aka Darkwolf377 (lurker since'01, member since 4/'04)--stop clogging me with pings!)
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To: Enterprise

The c'Rats poll numbers are about as low as whale poop on the bottom of the ocean.

Let 'em spend millions propping up their regime built on loose sand and hope to hell some folks seriously see that we can't get ahead by continuing to let a bunch of behinds run this state into the poor house.


9 posted on 05/16/2005 9:13:34 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... The War on Terrorism is the ultimate 'faith-based' initiative.)
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To: Timeout

I'm keeping my powder dry UNTIL I see the pubs REALLY go nuke! TALK is cheap and spitballs are a dime a dozen!


10 posted on 05/16/2005 9:13:39 PM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: Darkwolf

It's almost dumbfounding, isn't it?!

Frist tells Dingy Harry to pound sand and the gov pulls out the big guns on his donkey legislature and their union minions.

What next? Might the Milwaukee DA be about to indict Mayor Barrett for election fraud? (In my dreams!)


11 posted on 05/16/2005 9:15:26 PM PDT by Timeout (Dean & the Bike Path Left: aging anti-warriors who use "summer" as a verb~~Jonah)
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To: NormsRevenge

just get the damn job done and done right.
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Let us hope so -- I sit in great anticipation.


12 posted on 05/16/2005 9:17:40 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: EagleUSA

The budget battle will be the c'Rats undoing.

They just can't stop the spending.. It's an addiction.

The Gub needs to get a grip as well or all will be for nought.


13 posted on 05/16/2005 9:20:08 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... The War on Terrorism is the ultimate 'faith-based' initiative.)
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To: Timeout
chief political consultant Mike Murphy

The Governator's toast.

14 posted on 05/16/2005 9:23:01 PM PDT by Oschisms
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To: SierraWasp

ping


15 posted on 05/16/2005 9:27:19 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: Darkwolf

Oh, and I forgot to include Galloway's appearance tomorrow before Norm Coleman's committee. (If he really shows)

THAT's going to be fun to watch!


16 posted on 05/16/2005 9:28:08 PM PDT by Timeout (Dean & the Bike Path Left: aging anti-warriors who use "summer" as a verb~~Jonah)
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To: NormsRevenge

I've heard that the unions have already spent about 200 million dollars fighting against Arnold. I can't remember what the context was though. If true, too bad. They can spend a billion, and they'll still lose.


17 posted on 05/16/2005 9:30:00 PM PDT by Enterprise (Coming soon from Newsweek: "Fallujah - we had to destroy it in order to save it.")
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To: Timeout

Let's not get crazy here. Next thing you'll be expecting the government to protect the borders. They'll be coming for you with a net then!


18 posted on 05/16/2005 9:30:53 PM PDT by Darkwolf (aka Darkwolf377 (lurker since'01, member since 4/'04)--stop clogging me with pings!)
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To: Timeout

Norm Coleman has really impressed me. He seems to have been out the day they were passing around the salt peter.


19 posted on 05/16/2005 9:31:24 PM PDT by Darkwolf (aka Darkwolf377 (lurker since'01, member since 4/'04)--stop clogging me with pings!)
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To: Timeout

So what else is he going to do besides deny accepting the "Gifts" from Saddam!!? No one is going to believe him!


20 posted on 05/16/2005 9:31:50 PM PDT by 26lemoncharlie ('Cuntas haereses tu sola interemisti in universo mundo!')
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To: All

If he pulls this off, I'll be expecting to see some nice crow receipes from all those doubters who told us not to vote him in.

Still loving my vote and all the petitions I got signed to dump Red Davis.


21 posted on 05/16/2005 9:33:00 PM PDT by Diplomat
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To: Timeout

Pin the thermonuclear device on the jackass bump!


22 posted on 05/16/2005 9:34:27 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: Diplomat

Lets recap:

Pension Reform: Abandoned

Merit Pay: Abandoned

Spending Cap: Abandoned, selects weak alternative with no teeth

Redistricting: Are California judges any better than legislators?

Tenure Pay: Good idea, but hardly merits special election


23 posted on 05/16/2005 9:37:55 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: Diplomat

crow ain;t toobad if prepared properly.

doubting is OK in my book regardless..

his appointments of large numbers of GReens to his administration and having RFK Jr as his environemntal advisor leave a lot to be desired, imo.

and his expressed love of social programs doesn't exactly make him a much endeared political entity either,, but some folks like kool-aid. to each their own. ;-)


24 posted on 05/16/2005 9:37:58 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... The War on Terrorism is the ultimate 'faith-based' initiative.)
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To: Darkwolf
OK, OK. I'll try to be more respectably skeptical.

But I did just find this little nugget that's bound to drive the donkeys totally bonkers!

Survey: DeLay's Approval Rating Increases In District

HOUSTON -- House Majority Leader Tom DeLay gained support from his district on his job performance over the past several weeks, according to an exclusive Local 2 poll released Monday.
LOL! They're going to have to get out the smellin' salts for Reid, Dean, Pelosi, Kennedy, Biden, Leahy, Schumer....
25 posted on 05/16/2005 9:41:19 PM PDT by Timeout (Dean & the Bike Path Left: aging anti-warriors who use "summer" as a verb~~Jonah)
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To: Enterprise

I think maybe you have a couple extra zeros in there.

The teachers' union has spent $2.5 million.
If Arnold goes forward, the "hope" to raise $50 million to counter Arnold's announced $50 million goal.


26 posted on 05/16/2005 9:41:45 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: Timeout
paycheck protection initiative

HA! I love that title. They stole a page out of the Dems playbook. Go Gov!

27 posted on 05/16/2005 9:42:14 PM PDT by Reagan is King (Never go to a gun fight with a handgun that uses ammo that doesn't start with a "4")
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To: Timeout
Hee hee hee...thats a great piece.

Man, that DeLay thing was supposed to be an easy set-up shot. Doesn't seem to have worked out too well for them. Maybe it's this demonstration of Demmy incompetence that has emboldened the Republicans. When they saw how the Demmies scurried like cockroaches when it turns out as many or more dems as reps are guilty of this behavior they ran away and said things like "Oh, let's not dwell on that," like they're being so bipartisan.

Then again, maybe that old fool Reid's calling Bush a loser was the final straw. That really was a ridiculous thing to say.

28 posted on 05/16/2005 9:48:23 PM PDT by Darkwolf (aka Darkwolf377 (lurker since'01, member since 4/'04)--stop clogging me with pings!)
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To: calcowgirl

You're probably right. I remember the figure as being 200 million. I thought it was a pretty sizeable number.


29 posted on 05/16/2005 9:51:39 PM PDT by Enterprise (Coming soon from Newsweek: "Fallujah - we had to destroy it in order to save it.")
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To: calcowgirl

When the teacher union goons were protesting in front of the courthouse last week I wondered how many teachers are Republicans. Are there any stats on that?


30 posted on 05/16/2005 10:00:27 PM PDT by tubebender (We child proofed our house but they still get in...)
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To: tubebender; brytlea
When the teacher union goons were protesting in front of the courthouse last week I wondered how many teachers are Republicans. Are there any stats on that?

I searched google and couldn't find anything. In fact, half the search results took me to a Freeper's tagline (see below). LOL. Maybe brytlea knows of some statistics.

"brytlea (Yes, there are Republican teachers...) "

31 posted on 05/16/2005 10:10:42 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: calcowgirl; NormsRevenge
I was here earlier admiring Norm's #6 reply!!!

After how many times he's gone soft, I just have to say "wait and see!" I'm most interested in the Paycheck Protection and Ray Haynes CA border patrol measures!

I saw Arnold announcing enough signatures on some of the other measures he likes about a week ago. So, we'll see! I hope he's serious and committed to at least this as it is "something!"

I just wish he'd waited and put the Sierra-Nevada CONservancy on the ballot to at least give us a fighting chance, but he's not that considerate when granting favors to Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.!!!

32 posted on 05/16/2005 10:15:23 PM PDT by SierraWasp (The "Heritage Oaks" in the Sierra-Nevada Conservancy are full of parasitic GovernMental mistletoe!!!)
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To: calcowgirl; NormsRevenge
"Escalating the governor's fight, chief political consultant Mike Murphy said Monday that Schwarzenegger may endorse an initiative that could hobble the money-raising machine of public employee unions. Murphy said the governor has asked him to conduct polling and voter focus groups on a so-called paycheck protection initiative."

I like the ringing tones of THIS!!!

33 posted on 05/16/2005 10:17:58 PM PDT by SierraWasp (The "Heritage Oaks" in the Sierra-Nevada Conservancy are full of parasitic GovernMental mistletoe!!!)
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To: SierraWasp

>>After how many times he's gone soft, I just have to say "wait and see!" I'm most interested in the Paycheck Protection and Ray Haynes CA border patrol measures!

I like those initiatives, too. I like parental notification also. I hate the borrowing buried in his "spending reform" bill, though, and I'm still not convinced having judges draw districts is an improvement.

>>I just wish he'd waited and put the Sierra-Nevada CONservancy on the ballot to at least give us a fighting chance, but he's not that considerate when granting favors to Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.!!!

What do you mean? He was very considerate--to RFK, jr!!!


34 posted on 05/16/2005 10:21:50 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: SierraWasp
the governor has asked him to conduct polling and voter focus groups on a so-called paycheck protection initiative.

Ok, I'll be Bad Cop this round.. lol.

something troubles me about his inability to read the writing on the wall on this issue.

He needs polling and focus groups? Where did we see that crap for governance before?

35 posted on 05/16/2005 10:22:42 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... The War on Terrorism is the ultimate 'faith-based' initiative.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Simplicity! Excellent comment.


36 posted on 05/16/2005 10:22:52 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: SierraWasp

Yeah... but you notice they have to poll to see which way the wind is blowin' first! I wish they had some backbone.


37 posted on 05/16/2005 10:24:21 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: calcowgirl

It is as if many of the Republican moderates spines have been removed and they are nothing but a mass of quivering indifference governed by PCism.


38 posted on 05/16/2005 10:26:47 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... The War on Terrorism is the ultimate 'faith-based' initiative.)
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To: NormsRevenge; calcowgirl
Well, his people probably remember how Prop 226 in the June 1998 Primary started out polling extremely strong. It was Paycheck Protection aimed at ALL unions in CA!!! This measure is aimed at ONLY public EE Unions, and NOT at Private Sector Unions!!! That's Ok by me!!!

By the time election day arrived, the unions called on all their liberal group-think socialist groups, including all the Non-profits with their contributors lists and narrowly sunk the measure.

It was the biggest single reason my re-election bid failed here locally, by the way, so I remember the details pretty well. Another reason I hope this measure is supported and wins as a payback that's sorely needed. The local public EE's Union went wild and took me out with one of their past secretaries!!!

39 posted on 05/16/2005 10:32:49 PM PDT by SierraWasp (The "Heritage Oaks" in the Sierra-Nevada Conservancy are full of parasitic GovernMental mistletoe!!!)
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To: SierraWasp

This measure is aimed at ONLY public EE Unions, and NOT at Private Sector Unions!!! That's Ok by me!!!

agreed.


40 posted on 05/16/2005 10:35:23 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... The War on Terrorism is the ultimate 'faith-based' initiative.)
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To: Timeout

Heck, a stinking smelly baboon could win vs this legislature.

These rats are wholly owned by the unions and special interest groups that bought and paid for them.

Go Arnold go!!


41 posted on 05/16/2005 10:40:03 PM PDT by Bullish
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To: SierraWasp; NormsRevenge

I notice Murphy is doing all the talking these days.
It looks like Maria did clean house --no more Rob Stutzman? (ref link below)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1397070/posts


42 posted on 05/16/2005 10:41:57 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: NormsRevenge

The very idea of "Public Servant" unions is Oxymoronic to the MAX!!!


43 posted on 05/16/2005 10:43:07 PM PDT by SierraWasp (The "Heritage Oaks" in the Sierra-Nevada Conservancy are full of parasitic GovernMental mistletoe!!!)
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To: calcowgirl

The Mike and Margita Show. :-)


44 posted on 05/16/2005 10:44:37 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... The War on Terrorism is the ultimate 'faith-based' initiative.)
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To: calcowgirl

Wull yeah! Stutzman was too conservative according to the artickle (deliberately mis-spelled) and was out of step on Wilson's successful Prop 187 and is being blamed for the very thing (patting the border watchers on the back) that is bringing him back from over the cliff!!! The artickle din't say Morris frowned on this conservative stuff, it just implied that Morris did. At least that's the way I read it.


45 posted on 05/16/2005 10:52:11 PM PDT by SierraWasp (The "Heritage Oaks" in the Sierra-Nevada Conservancy are full of parasitic GovernMental mistletoe!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge
ROFL. Gameshow losers from To Tell The Truth?
46 posted on 05/16/2005 11:03:09 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: calcowgirl

LOL.. On that note, G'Nite.

I have exceeded my daily FR ration again. ;-)


47 posted on 05/16/2005 11:09:25 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... The War on Terrorism is the ultimate 'faith-based' initiative.)
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To: calcowgirl; NormsRevenge

Then let me help you understand my position in easier terms.

My monthly electric bill with Davis $400.

My monthly electric bill with Arnold $200.

I frankly don't care what Arnold does becuase it is folly to believe he can get a solid majority rat legistlature to do anything constructive for my state. Thus the need for reformendums.

Rome wasn't conquered in a day. He cannot rollback decades of dem excess like a Simpsons cartoon.

Three rabid stray dogs could walk straighter lines than a democrat controlled panel can draw in this state. So yes, I think anything would likely produce Republican gains. I can see redrawn lines easily netting a half dozen seats and I think double digits is very possible. That would be of monumental help to a Republican congress. Besides, the map goes back to the people for a vote for approval.

A slice of pie is better than no pie.


48 posted on 05/16/2005 11:48:35 PM PDT by Diplomat
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To: Diplomat; Carry_Okie

>>My monthly electric bill with Davis $400. My monthly electric bill with Arnold $200.

You're the first person I've heard of that has a decrease in electricity. What action do you attribute to Arnold that caused such a reduction?

>>Besides, the map goes back to the people for a vote for approval.

The new districts will be used in the instant election (the same election asking for approval of the districts).

If the plan gets turned down by the voters, the votes (from disapproved districts) still stand.

It's a bad law, IMO.

Also, other states have tried the same thing (with judges) and the districts turned MORE democrat! There is no indication that this will end up better.


49 posted on 05/17/2005 12:03:12 AM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: calcowgirl
Maybe not. But I don't think legislators should draw their own lines. It would be better to hand over the job to an independent redistricting commission but we'll take what we can get. Its true retired judges would draw the new lines but the safeguard is the people will have to approve them before they take effect. That should cut the mischief monkey-making down to a minimum. Only time will tell if it gets us a more accountable State Legislature. Hey, we didn't do so bad when a State Supreme Court Special Master drew the lines back in the 90s. Elections were competitive enough that Republicans won a majority in the State Assembly. My view is legislators should represent the people, not the other way around.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
50 posted on 05/17/2005 12:12:21 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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