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Mount St. Helens Victims' Kin Sound Off (asking for an apology)
Yahoo News ^ | 5/18/05 | RUKMINI CALLIMACHI

Posted on 05/18/2005 4:30:04 AM PDT by Libloather

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To: KarlInOhio
I want Italian Prime Minister Berlusconi to apologize for making Mount Vesuvius destroy Pompeii.

Not good enough. I'd think reparations would be in order as well. With interest.

41 posted on 05/18/2005 5:18:42 AM PDT by BlackRazor
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To: Libloather

I'm sorry, people. The State of Washington did not set off that volcano. The State of Washington did not know how large the eruption would be.

The state is not responsible to keep the individual safe. That is simply not the state's job. Now if the state creates a hazard, then we can talk. But the state did not create the volcano.

To my knowledge, nobody was in the vicinity of this Volcano who did not know pretty much what the state knew. When these people advanced closer to the volcano than the geologists who knew the situation best, that should have told them something.

People assume that the state is always going to be over protective, and they can stray across the line a little bit, and still be OK. After all, "they" always build in a safety factor, don't they?

Well, sometimes "they" don't. This tragic family was out for adventure. Adventure includes risk. Sometimes the risk wins out. Parents put their kids in hazardous situations all the time, on the soccer field, or canoing, or at the beach, because they think the experience is worth the risk. Sometimes they are wrong.


42 posted on 05/18/2005 5:18:53 AM PDT by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: Libloather
Ignorance is bliss. And there is a certain cachet to suing somebody even 25 years after the fact.

Personally, I wouldn't take myself within 25 miles of an expected tsunami or any volcano that had signs of activity. Little kids? Make that 100 miles.

There's a certain Darwinian cosmic joke in expecting the "state", or someone else, to decide for you what is safe. Demanding an apology is so... so... muslim.

43 posted on 05/18/2005 5:19:19 AM PDT by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are hydrogen, ignorance and stupidity.)
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To: mewzilla; leadpenny
LOL. Are we dating ourselves or what? :)

What, you mean that you are both between the ages 41 and 46?

44 posted on 05/18/2005 5:21:46 AM PDT by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: BlackRazor

I believe it was all three. I seem to recall there were a half dozen or less Weyerhaeuser loggers, several people who'd bought permits to hunt or fish, and a number of trespassers. I used to have a bit of a fascination with the Mount St Helens eruption but I haven't read much about it since the mid eighties.


45 posted on 05/18/2005 5:22:10 AM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: Guillermo

Absurd! Do I get an apology when hurricane Charley took a turn right over my house last year? "You said it was heading towards Tampa, whaaaaaaa". Excuse me, when a mountain is about to explode, red zone or blue zone, I heading hundreds of miles in the OPPOSITE direction!


46 posted on 05/18/2005 5:25:04 AM PDT by poobear
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I do recall people were pissed at Jeb Bush because they claim the "line" on the maps was headed towards Tampa.


47 posted on 05/18/2005 5:27:03 AM PDT by Guillermo (Bush is no conservative. Don't insult my intelligence by telling me that he is)
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To: gridlock
What, you mean that you are both between the ages 41 and 46?

LOL. You know what they say, though. It's not the years, it's the mileage :)

48 posted on 05/18/2005 5:28:06 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: Publius6961
What are these people going to say when the National Park Service closes Yellowstone Park permanently because geologists are not able to predict when the next big eruption will be? How much do we sacrifice for safety? Should we wrap our kiddies in bubble wrap to make sure they don't get a boo-boo?
49 posted on 05/18/2005 5:29:06 AM PDT by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: gridlock

Considering the idiots I've seen at Yellowstone, I'd say they're in more danger from their antagonizing the wildlife than they are from a big boom.


50 posted on 05/18/2005 5:31:34 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: Libloather
Twenty-five years after the fatal eruption, victims' families want to stress that their loved ones did not die because of their own recklessness.

Uhuh, Ok whatever honey now go off and keep humming and keep your chakras clean.

Their bodies were found in the branches of separate hemlock trees, about four miles outside the restricted zones.

Mother nature has a deep sense of irony.....
51 posted on 05/18/2005 5:50:38 AM PDT by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: LIConFem

But blaming the Gov for not knowing exactly what areas would be affected by an eruption of indeterminate size and duration is just plain silly.


But this is what you get when you no longer have "acts of God". Have to blame somebody.


52 posted on 05/18/2005 5:53:35 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple
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To: Guillermo
Everyone with half a brain knows hurricanes are unpredictable. Hence, they were named after women for decades. The feminist cried "that's not fair" and the other usual tripe and they decided to mix it up with male gender names. The idiots that cried fowl when Charley made landfall near Sanibel Island most likely were transplants that have never been through one of these things. Most on the west coast that received the damage were retirees from elsewhere with nowhere to go. Bush's fault... Geez!
53 posted on 05/18/2005 5:53:42 AM PDT by poobear
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To: Libloather

after reading the comments here i'll have to say that i think they do have a slight point.

i've always "heard" (news, school, etc.) that the people who died were reckless in not staying in safe zones. i've never heard that only 6 of the 57 who died were in the cordoned off area.

yes it is tragic, no it isn't the governments "fault" that they died, but i see why they want an apology for all the governments statements making it sound like they brought it on themselves.


54 posted on 05/18/2005 5:57:54 AM PDT by kpp_kpp
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To: poobear
Bush's fault... Geez!

Some liberal group actually put up billboards in Florida (not sure if they did any radio/TV advertising ) linking increased hurricane activity with global warming, and taking Bush to task for not signing Kyoto.

55 posted on 05/18/2005 5:58:52 AM PDT by BlackRazor
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To: kpp_kpp

We apologize that you were to stupid to heed the danger of an exploding volcano. There, feel better now?


56 posted on 05/18/2005 6:11:13 AM PDT by poobear
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To: Libloather
Now I've heard everything. What a hopeless bunch!

Carolyn

57 posted on 05/18/2005 6:14:24 AM PDT by CDHart (The world has become a lunatic asylum and the lunatics are in charge.)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

Actually, Carter wanted to put a King-sized cardigan sweater over the mountain and turn the thermostats down several degrees...


58 posted on 05/18/2005 6:15:49 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Harmful Or Fatal If Swallowed)
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To: poobear

Some members of the Congressional Black Caucus were complaining the names were too "white."

No Shanequa, Teneka, LaFawnduh...


59 posted on 05/18/2005 6:17:45 AM PDT by Guillermo (Bush is no conservative. Don't insult my intelligence by telling me that he is)
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To: Guillermo

Hilarious! A "too white" hurricane. Where else can they go at this point?


60 posted on 05/18/2005 6:20:55 AM PDT by poobear
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