Skip to comments.Boomers have paid their dues to society
Posted on 05/18/2005 10:06:08 AM PDT by qam1
Jan Murray believes boomers are right to demand your money.
I am having trouble empathising with the bleating about whose taxes will fund the ageing baby-boomer bunch in the near future. Such mean-hearted tripe. Such chutzpah - the high-chair set having a hissy fit just thinking about the load it's going to have to bear.
So, who started it and how do we stop it is what I want to know. I feel like digging out my pewter jewellery and hurling it at the next Generation-X pet who complains that his or her taxes will be supporting the likes of me because I haven't been clever enough to save for my Zimmer frame.
OK, so a decent slice of your taxes are going to have to keep us in the style we invented and will insist upon while there's breath in our used, abused (and increasingly refused) bodies. Pardon us for making up 39.76 per cent of the population.
Let's just hold that thought while I run through a few home truths.
Imagine a world without teenagers. Who invented the phenomenon? We did. The adolescent baby boomers were the social malcontents of the 50s who cut loose from the oppressive ruck and insisted on being recognised as individuals with a right to be listened to, marketed to and feared by a conservative Yesterday because we were Tomorrow - our own tomorrow, and yours.
Imagine if we had not rebelled. Elvis would have been sent back to his mum to have his mouth washed out. He would still be singing gospel in some clapboard church in Memphis, telling his grandkids how a rush of blood to his head a long time ago made him do some foolish things with his hips.
Look at it this way: the money you've been saving on dentistry - because we gave you flouride in your drinking water - is the equivalent of the tax rise you'll need to come up with on our behalf.
Between sorting my vinyls and renovating my sea-change home, I pause to wonder: why all the ingratitude and grumbling resentment? Should we have left off trying to make this a better world? Should we have just climbed the corporate ladders and left the multinationals to rip down the trees and put in their car parks?
I haven't even touched the 'f' word. This fight alone would be reason enough to drop a donation in as we pass the hat around. I'm not talking flares and fondue, either. Of course the boomers gave the world them. Just as we gave it fast-food, rock'n'roll, heart transplants, aerobics, tantric sex and the F-111. OK, so the Concorde proved to be a dud and the AK-47 was nasty, the multi-function polis never eventuated and body shirts were neither here nor there. But imagine a world without tampons, child care and equal wages.
Yes, I'm talking about feminism. Boomers went in hard on that one, and the Gen -ers who hold up half the sky today need to be reminded with each pay cheque. But that's an argument for another day. Why not just pay up and do it with a smile? Life's too short for hassles, man. Dig?
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I'd like to give this guy two words with one finger...
When I saw the headline, I thought more onanistic drivel from Richard Cohen.
Good-NESS! It's tripe like this that is what makes the X-ers hate the Boomers so much! This really shows them for the selfish, greedy group that they are. Holding up half the sky? This generation did more damage to society than the three or four generations before them, and if Gen X is having problems fixing some of their messes it's because we were raised by these idiots. I know that the writer doesn't speak for every Boomer, but this is the face that the world sees, and it's what the world will remember.
It's spelled "fluoride." Not only does the Sydney Morning Herald have writers who can't write, they can't spell either. No proofreaders/editors either, apparently.
Economic child rapists.
Grave diggers of Western Civilization.
Fixed it for her.
I got the impression this was written somewhat tongue-in-cheek.
B.S. How about the flappers in the 1920s. How about all the people then who defied prohibition to get a drink.
And that bit about individuals with a right to be listened to? Does the phrase, "Founding fathers" ring a bell. Well, the author is Australian, so maybe not.
But of all the laughable bits, is the suggestion that Boomers invented tantric sex. Honey, tantric sex was invented by Buddhists in India, no later than the 16th century.
Of course the Boomers seem to think they invented Sex...
"Imagine if we had not rebelled. Elvis would have been sent back to his mum to have his mouth washed out. He would still be singing gospel in some clapboard church in Memphis, telling his grandkids how a rush of blood to his head a long time ago made him do some foolish things with his hips."
Maybe Elvis would be alive enjoying his family, instead he died, overdosed siting on a toilet. Thanks.
Maybe instead of all the Rebelling, your generation should have gone to work and help build our future. Now your kind will just bankrupt the county.
I'd agree with you except that I've sat with Bay Area liberal Boomers too many times to count who have basically said the same stuff to me. And they're dead serious!
And were too stoned to patent it. Another example of fiscal mismanagement.
I thought so too, but then again, tongue-in-cheek usually is written with a hint of exaggeration.
Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous Communist plot we have ever had to face?
They can kiss my Xer butt. We've now gotta fix all the crap that they screwed up.
Boomers game us free love, abortion and high divorce rates. Thanks for all you've done.
Gee thanks. By the way you boomers also gave me Jane Fonda and Bill Clinton (and forgettable John Fruitcake Kerry). So please take half of my salary and go to Vegas, Miami or where ever with it. I've already been bent over by you guys, I'm now used to it. When my generation cleans up your messes (if it is possible) you all will have been worm food. /rant off
On the other hand I do thank all of the Boomers who served our country, (Both as soldiers and civilians), and ended communism, I thank you for my freedom, and my ability to rant in the world's only superpower.
The following is a list of Baby Boomer "achievements":
The Pet Rock
The Polyester Leisure Suit
Abortion on Demand
Sex Without Responsibility
The Latch Key Child
Divorce as a lifestyle choice
Enron, World Com, Global Crossing, Drexel-Burnham
Farm Aid, Band Aid, World Aid, everything but Kool Aid
Bill Clinton, twice
Draft Dodging as sport
First American defeat in a war which shluld have been no contest (Vietnam)
Second American defeat in a war which should have been no contest (Somalia)
Theory of Global Warming
Theory of Global Cooling (make up your minds!)
The professsional student
The Theory of Supply Chain Management
Having warnings and directions for use placed upon soup cans and shampoo bottles.
The 24-second shot clock and the three-point rule.
Pitching on five days' rest
A dollar worth only 11 cents
The Pacer, the Pinto and the K Car
Somehow, Bread had a longer career than Guns and Roses
The creation of an educational system which has al the forms of education (schoolhouse, teacher, books) but none of the substance (information).
Racial Mollycoddling and the permanent underclass
A perversion of feminism so out of kilter that most women under the age of 35 cannot tell you what day of the week it is without a support group.
Three Generations of Kennedys
As I think of more, I'll be sure to post them....Please feel free to add to the list...
Jan; dues to society is a socialism, communism tentent of behavior..
A free person owes NO dues to society.. only a slave of socialism which is Slavery by Government needs to consider any DUES ro society.. Jan you must be for democracy which is itself MOB RULE.. and pre-cursor to socialism.. Democracy CAUSES socialism.. A free REPUBLIC based on law with a constitution is NOT a democracy, although democratic.. The difference between the words democratic and "A democracy" are strange to the inherent ignorance of people in a democracy..
Look them up Jan.. democratic means one thing "A DEMOCRACY" means entirly another thing.. "A" Democracy is a form of government and IS NO republic which is inherently democratic.. in its essence.. A democracy is the WORSE form of government ever invented thats why the United States is specifically NOT A DEMOCRACY... and thank GOD and our founders for that..
P. O. E.
Being 50, I am stuck with being a boomer. Over the years, I have noticed that the left wing scumbag hippies of my youth are by far the greediest, most crooked businessmen in their hippie afterlife.
Boomers didn't bring us the Kalashnikov. That was brought to us by the WWII generation.
I think I agree with you, IA...I'm four months from the big 5-0, but I repudiate a lot of what passes for things my generation is known for...
You're right. I had a real grudge against the Boomers before I realized that you guys were set up by your predecessors. I've had several heart-to-heart's with my mom and she told me about the messages delivered by her teachers. "Girls can do anything boys can do." "Go to school, go to college, get a job. Don't just be a housewife." The destruction was happening, even then.
I suppose your generation just had better press.
I think it went goes back beyond that. Who were the college professors who incited the riots? Who were the teachers that sewed the seeds, then sat quietly back and let the kids have their hissy fit? The Boomers didn't do it alone.
The kids fight the wars, but it's the generation before that provides the politicians and the generals.
We have much to proud of, but carry the baggage of much we as a generation as well.
We are responsible for the tenured radicals in our universities
We are responsible for hard drug use passing into the middle class.
We are responsible for destroying what was left of the public schools.
We spat on returning veterans who were doing the dying for the spoiled middle and upper middle class kids who had college deferments.
Just to name a few .
The 'All About Me Generation' speaks!
I didn't do it! I swear! I was a conservative faculty member!
But people in my age cohort certainly worked for it.
Let us add a casual disrespect for authority and the law to the list while we are at it.
Loved the angry replies from all the clueless dolts who just didn't get it.
Boomers didn't bring us the Kalashnikov. That was brought to us by the WWII generation.
The first Kalashnikov submachine gun was invented by Mikhail Timofeevich Kalashnikov in 1941.
It was the "red diaper doper baby" boomers who supported its use against U.S. troops in SE Asia.
" She notes that a lot of the late boomers got to see all bad results of the early boomers without having to experience it directly, which gives them a different perspective"
Very true. The late boomers got to see some of the bad results of hedonistic leftism.
I'm with you. I'm a boomer with my own retirement accounts and I don't care if I ever get Social Security. I would like to have it revamped for my son, his family, and others who are just starting out. I've been running my own small business since I was 25, paying gazillion taxes, and employing many young people over the years. I was temporarily a sort of hippie from age 17 to 21.
"Let us add a casual disrespect for authority and the law to the list while we are at it."
Yes, we must add this.
I was a conservative at age 15, after having read National Review for about a year. I lived in a hotbed of radicalism (Boston suburb)
I studied history. It taught me the cost for believing ideology over reality.
"I was temporarily a sort of hippie from age 17 to 21."
Isn't everyone at that age at one time or another? Wised up at 24 and never looked back. I've never blamed any generation before or after me for my successes or failures. I am in charge of where I go in this life. Except for the intrusion of the government from time to time, we are ALL to blame for where we end up in life! So, as a previous poster wrote:
"I'd like to give some of you guys two words with one finger!"
Maybe if the Boomer generation hadn't condemned 40 million Gen X and Gen Y to death before they were even born, I might have more sympathy and a greater willingness to support them in their old age. As it is, the burden falls on it and it's largely their fault.
Fortunately for Gen X, the Baby Boomers are also the one's pushing for Euthanaisa, Dutch style and maybe they won't be a burden for as long as people think.
I took a number of history courses at Boston College.
It does teach one a great deal about how ideology can
We forgive you your 4 year brain cramp: ) I too started my own business at 25, and started buying real estate shortly thereafter. I don't expect a dime from Social Security.
The old fart boomers will just be "mercy killed."
Then they won't be a "drain" on society.
All for the common welfare, you know - the collective good.
Give peace a chance.
How about the Internet.
I want to say "blow me" but I liked your post too much!
That generation gave us:
1. Disrespect as a poor example of behavior.
3. Massive drug use.
4. Massive welfare.
7. Spoiled brats.
10. Destruction of higher education, once known as universities, now known as adult day care centers.