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Mother's milk saves vet set ablaze on bus
New York Daily News ^ | 5-18-2005 | DEBORAH KOLBEN, TONY SCLAFANI and BILL HUTCHINSON

Posted on 05/18/2005 12:33:31 PM PDT by kingattax

A real-life supermom used a bottle of breast milk to douse an amputee yesterday after his wheelchair was set ablaze by punks on a Staten Island bus, cops said.

The nursing mother's fast actions helped save Vietnam vet Francis Abrams, 57, from becoming a human torch, and stopped the fire from engulfing the S-54 bus, police and the victim said.

"It was put out with breast milk," said a police source, who was awed by the bizarre incident that happened just after 11 a.m.

Abrams, who lost his left leg in Vietnam, said he was minding his own business as he rode the city bus to the Staten Island Mall to buy a video of "The Exorcist."

Just after he boarded the bus, three teens playing hooky from Tottenville High School pulled a cruel prank, cops said.

"They set my chair on fire," an angry Abrams said last night, refusing to allow photographers to take pictures of his face. "They thought it was a joke."

Cops said the teens used a cigarette lighter to ignite a plastic bag hanging from the back of Abrams' motorized wheelchair.

The flames quickly engulfed the bag, containing the Greek classics "Odyssey" and "Iliad."

As the fire spread to Abrams' jacket, he screamed: "Water!"

As her baby looked on, the new mom and a friend sprang into the action, dousing the fire with a freshly pumped bottle of breast milk and another bottle of water, authorities said.

The back of Abrams' wheelchair was slightly melted by the fire, but he was not harmed thanks to the nursing mother.

"I said, 'Thank you,'" Abrams said.

When bus driver Deborah Thompson spotted the fire, she wheeled the bus to a stop at Crossfield Ave. and Arthur Kill Road in Greenridge, officials said.

But as she called 911, the three fire-starters bolted.

Cops from the 123rd Precinct got a detailed description of the suspects from Thompson and Abrams and quickly found the pranksters.

The names of the suspects were not released because of their ages. All of them are 15. They were charged with arson, criminal mischief and reckless endangerment, authorities said.

Asked about the fire being extinguished with breast milk, Abrams bristled, "I don't care. It doesn't bother me."

Vietnam War veteran Francis Abrams sits in his wheelchair outside his home in Staten Island after torching attack on bus


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KEYWORDS: bus; fire; prank; pranks; teen; teens; urbanbarbarians; veteran; vfw
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1 posted on 05/18/2005 12:33:31 PM PDT by kingattax
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To: kingattax

You can't make this stuff up.


2 posted on 05/18/2005 12:34:21 PM PDT by rhombus
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To: kingattax

The names of the suspects were not released because of their ages. All of them are 15. They were charged with arson, criminal mischief and reckless endangerment, authorities said.

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Baloney...let their names be released...and their addresses too.

And try them as adults too.


3 posted on 05/18/2005 12:35:21 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: kingattax

I keep looking for the Scrappleface.com link.


4 posted on 05/18/2005 12:35:55 PM PDT by jtminton (The E.P.A.: Bringing you higher gas prices since 1970!)
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To: kingattax
They were charged with arson, criminal mischief and reckless endangerment, authorities said.

No attempted murder?

5 posted on 05/18/2005 12:36:10 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (I don't drink and FReep...it just looks that way)
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To: kingattax

Oh...it came from the bottle.

I was prepared to be very impressed.


6 posted on 05/18/2005 12:36:50 PM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: fatnotlazy

Worth repeating:

Baloney...let their names be released...and their addresses too.

And try them as adults too.


7 posted on 05/18/2005 12:37:45 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: kingattax

What a bunch of sickos to set a fire like that. Their parents must be so proud. Thank goodness for the quick thinking woman.


8 posted on 05/18/2005 12:37:56 PM PDT by zlala (I used to have a handle on life but it broke.)
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To: fatnotlazy
Baloney...let their names be released...and their addresses too. And try them as adults too.

exactly

9 posted on 05/18/2005 12:38:00 PM PDT by kingattax
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To: kingattax
The names of the suspects were not released because of their ages. All of them are 15. They were charged with arson, criminal mischief and reckless endangerment, authorities said.

I don't suppose charging ATTEMPTED MURDER ever crossed the prosecutor's mind.

10 posted on 05/18/2005 12:38:13 PM PDT by martin_fierro (KnockKnock/Who's there?/Control Freak. Now you say, "Control Freak Who?")
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To: dead; aculeus; general_re; BlueLancer; hellinahandcart; Happygal; Thinkin' Gal; Constitution Day; ..
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Just your everyday “breast milk to douse an amputee after his wheelchair was set ablaze by punks” story.
12 posted on 05/18/2005 12:38:54 PM PDT by dighton
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To: ErnBatavia

GMTA


13 posted on 05/18/2005 12:39:00 PM PDT by martin_fierro (KnockKnock/Who's there?/Control Freak. Now you say, "Control Freak Who?")
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To: kingattax
A real-life supermom used a bottle of breast milk to douse an amputee yesterday after his wheelchair was set ablaze by punks on a Staten Island bus

WHOA!!!!!!!!!! This story got it all going on!

14 posted on 05/18/2005 12:40:44 PM PDT by freebilly
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To: Fido969

I think I recognize the boob on the right....


15 posted on 05/18/2005 12:41:32 PM PDT by freebilly
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To: kingattax

Those kids need to be locked up to keep us from ever suffering any more of their ideas.


16 posted on 05/18/2005 12:43:10 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: kingattax

The milk of human kindness. Great name for a band.


17 posted on 05/18/2005 12:43:15 PM PDT by tumblindice
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To: TheBigB

While wholly appropriate here, if this were on the OFST, it would be yanked in a heartbeat!


18 posted on 05/18/2005 12:43:18 PM PDT by ctlpdad
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To: dighton; aculeus; dead; BlueLancer; Happygal; hellinahandcart; Thinkin' Gal

Boy, if I had a nickel...


19 posted on 05/18/2005 12:43:36 PM PDT by general_re ("Frantic orthodoxy is never rooted in faith, but in doubt." - Reinhold Niebuhr)
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To: kingattax

Oh!,, Momma.. giddyiyap.. - Cosmo Kramer..


20 posted on 05/18/2005 12:45:20 PM PDT by hosepipe (This Propaganda has been edited to include not a small amount of Hyperbole..)
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To: PBRSTREETGANG
"Oh...it came from the bottle. I was prepared to be very impressed."

I was about to pull a fire alarm myself.

21 posted on 05/18/2005 12:45:29 PM PDT by blaquebyrd
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To: kingattax
The names of the suspects were not released because of their ages. All of them are 15.

I'm normally not in favor of "disappearing" people. Be a shame if something happened to these misguided yoots.

22 posted on 05/18/2005 12:45:37 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: kingattax
minding his own business as he rode the city bus to the Staten Island Mall to buy a video of "The Exorcist."

OK...........

23 posted on 05/18/2005 12:46:14 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan
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To: kingattax

How terrible! Just when I think I have heard it all...well, you know. Bless that man's heart.....he has suffered enough.


24 posted on 05/18/2005 12:46:51 PM PDT by yellowdoghunter (Liberals should be seen and not heard.)
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To: kingattax
...and quickly found the pranksters.

Pranksters!!!!??? How about attempted murderers!!!???

25 posted on 05/18/2005 12:47:10 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (This tagline will be destoyed to make way for a new Hyperspace bypass.)
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To: PBRSTREETGANG
"I was prepared to be very impressed."

That was one heck of a leakage problem, huh!

26 posted on 05/18/2005 12:48:47 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: fatnotlazy

Try them at the VFW.


27 posted on 05/18/2005 12:49:01 PM PDT by SmithL (Proud Submariner)
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To: yellowdoghunter

isnt it nice to know we have brainless little monsters roaming around unchained ?


28 posted on 05/18/2005 12:50:37 PM PDT by kingattax
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To: kingattax

Pranksters, my @$$!!! Arson, assault with a deadly weapon, and attempted murder are all felonies, not pranks.


29 posted on 05/18/2005 12:50:50 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: kingattax

Unbelievable! Hope the malicious truants have to get a job and pay for a new chair for this man. Salute to the Mom, her breast milk and friend.


30 posted on 05/18/2005 12:52:34 PM PDT by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: rhombus

The difference between writing fiction and non-fiction is that fiction has to make sense.


31 posted on 05/18/2005 12:53:58 PM PDT by Dr. Zzyzx
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To: kingattax

If one of those pukes were my son the police wouldn't need to charge them with anything, but they could help dispose of the ashes when I was through.


32 posted on 05/18/2005 12:54:05 PM PDT by MarineBrat (Electricity: the high priest of false security.)
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To: kingattax

15 years old is old enough to suffer appropriate consequences for attempting severe bodily injury or attempted murder. They knew what they were doing. The parents can't get off easily for raising such animals either. How about some "hate crime" charges here too.


33 posted on 05/18/2005 12:54:08 PM PDT by caisson71
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To: kingattax

I can't believe they aren't charging the little rats with attempted murder!

And for the record, wheelchairs tend to be highly flamable because they are like mini-homes for the occupants. Full of tissues, newspapers, notes, etc.


34 posted on 05/18/2005 12:56:12 PM PDT by najida (OK, so, ya see, uh huh.....I have this stress problem....maybe it's living without running water.)
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To: kingattax
Cops from the 123rd Precinct got a detailed description of the suspects from Thompson and Abrams and quickly found the pranksters. The names of the suspects were not released because of their ages. All of them are 15. They were charged with arson, criminal mischief and reckless endangerment, authorities said.

Is this reporter really that f*****g stupid? "Pranksters"?? How about "homicidal animals?" I'm sure the NY courts will let them walk to do it to someone else. Liberals deserve New York.

35 posted on 05/18/2005 12:56:27 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: kingattax
They were charged with arson, criminal mischief and reckless endangerment, authorities said.

Setting fire to an empty wheelchair is criminal mischief. Setting fire to an occupied one is attempted murder.

36 posted on 05/18/2005 12:57:25 PM PDT by Sloth (I don't post a lot of the threads you read; I make a lot of the threads you read better.)
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To: fatnotlazy

I agree. And charge them with attempted murder, too.

Kudos to the quick-witted young women who saved this vet's life.

A public caning of the three perps should be held in Times Square.


37 posted on 05/18/2005 12:58:16 PM PDT by Palladin (Proud to be a FReeper!)
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To: kingattax

what kind of trash does something like this???? This is just sick!


38 posted on 05/18/2005 1:13:33 PM PDT by sassbox
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Pranksters!!!!??? How about attempted murderers!!!???

Everything's a big joke to the media.

39 posted on 05/18/2005 1:18:17 PM PDT by skip_intro
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To: PBRSTREETGANG
Oh...it came from the bottle.

I was prepared to be very impressed.

My thoughts as well.

40 posted on 05/18/2005 1:19:21 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Larry Lucido
I'm normally not in favor of "disappearing" people.

The herd has need a good culling for quite some time now.

41 posted on 05/18/2005 1:21:07 PM PDT by Freebird Forever
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To: fatnotlazy

"And try them as adults too."

For attempted murder


42 posted on 05/18/2005 1:30:08 PM PDT by Betaille (Harry Potter is a Right-Winger)
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To: skip_intro
Everything's a big joke to the media.

Besides, the man was a Vietnam vet. The New York reporter may have felt, subconsciously, just a tiny bit that "he's probably done worse himself".

43 posted on 05/18/2005 1:40:01 PM PDT by American Quilter
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To: kingattax
These "kids" need some serious jail time...punks...
44 posted on 05/18/2005 1:46:59 PM PDT by scott says
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To: kingattax

They should have been charged with book burning, too. The Iliad and the Odyssey, no less. Then a liberal judge would be certain to throw the book at them.


45 posted on 05/18/2005 1:54:25 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Dr. Zzyzx
The difference between writing fiction and non-fiction is that fiction has to make sense.

You nailed this one. No one would ever believe a wheel-chair fire put out by mother's milk.

46 posted on 05/18/2005 2:03:17 PM PDT by rhombus
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To: kingattax
Man thats just weird...

I mean, nursing mothers dousing flaming amputee's with fresh pumped breast milk is something might to see on a Saturday night in a San Francisco bathhouse if you anty up a couple grand, but...

47 posted on 05/18/2005 2:03:24 PM PDT by tophat9000 (When the State ASSUMES death...It makes an ASH out of you and me)
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To: kingattax
Prometheus was the son of Iapetus who was one of the Titans. He tricked the gods into eating bare bones instead of good meat. He stole the sacred fire from Zeus and the gods. In punishment, Zeus commanded that Prometheus be chained for eternity in the Caucasus. There, an eagle (or, according to other sources, a vulture) would eat his liver, and each day the liver would be renewed. So the punishment was endless, until Heracles finally killed the bird.

In this case their livers would be exctracted bit by bit cooked with onions and fed to the other perps! I'll bet the liver and onions, (I never liked that dish although my Mom was anemic and cooked it at least once a week!), will make 'em gag!

48 posted on 05/18/2005 2:03:25 PM PDT by Young Werther
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To: Betaille

The misfortune is that, at 15, more likely unless perhaps they have violent priors, they will be tried as juveniles, which probably means they will be set free in a few years...to do something a lot worse.

This notion that at age 15 or whatever, you are still a kid when it comes to crime is nonsense. I say, once a child picks up a gun or a knife, or sets someone afire, he is no longer a child. He knows exactly what he's doing; he knows the harm he is causing. Especially nowadays -- children are savvy...they have computers, they have television and other media -- they know what violence is.

These punks need a lot more than just a few years in juv-y, where they can be "rehabilitated." Yeah...right.


49 posted on 05/18/2005 2:14:40 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: stylecouncilor

ping


50 posted on 05/18/2005 2:28:34 PM PDT by windcliff
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