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Ancient Beer, Wine Jars Found in Egypt
AP/SF Chronicle ^ | 5/18/05 | AP

Posted on 05/18/2005 7:01:35 PM PDT by TFFKAMM

(05-18) 18:18 PDT CAIRO, Egypt (AP) --

Archaeologists digging in a 5,000-year-old site in southern Egypt have unearthed 200 rough ceramic beer and wine jars and a second mud-brick mortuary enclosure of King Hur-Aha the founder of the First Dynasty, Egypt's Supreme Council of Antiquities said Wednesday.

A joint American excavation mission from Yale University, Institute of Fine Arts, the Pennsylvania University Museum and New York Universities found the treasure Wednesday at Shunet El-Zebib, north of Abydos in the Upper Egyptian city of Sohag.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: agriculture; alcohol; ancienthistory; animalhusbandry; archaeology; archeology; beer; booze; dietandcuisine; egypt; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; grapes; grog; history; huntergatherers; middleeast; oenology; wine; winemaking; zymurgy
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To: TFFKAMM

It is a skill that has been discovered and "forgotten" a number of times in the history of man.

Have to wonder how many times it was "forgotten" because of forced prohibition.


21 posted on 05/18/2005 7:35:10 PM PDT by weegee (Funny how prisoners at Gitmo can have their religious books but our school kids can't.)
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To: TFFKAMM
once humans learned how to ferment and drink alcoholic beverages, it influenced everything from agriculture, to law, to economics, to religion and morals.

Is that why Muslims are so p!$$3d off all the time? Because they can't crack open some cold ones.

22 posted on 05/18/2005 7:37:09 PM PDT by Alouette (Muslims bite the hand that feeds them, and kiss the boot that kicks them.)
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To: Blue Screen of Death
LOL!

I believe it was Bobby Bare who said,

I've never been to bed with an ugly woman
But I've
woken up with quite a few!

23 posted on 05/18/2005 7:40:57 PM PDT by TFFKAMM
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To: NormsRevenge; SunkenCiv; NautiNurse; andrew2527; AnAmericanMother; A Jovial Cad; Betis70; ...
Click to be added or removed.

Wine news ping.

24 posted on 05/18/2005 7:45:43 PM PDT by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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To: Blue Screen of Death
drink alcoholic beverages, it influenced everything from agriculture, to law, to economics, to religion and morals.

Hummm. The German's drank beer, the French drank red wine. Certainly explains the early outcome of WWII.

This guy may be on to something. Never underestimate the power of Pabst's, Stroh's and Rolling Rock. What doesn't kill us makes us stronger. Certainly explains how the war ended the way it did.

25 posted on 05/18/2005 7:58:03 PM PDT by lizma
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To: lizma

Oh, that is silliness. Just because I drink bier and am allergic to wine....french wine.....nevermind.


26 posted on 05/18/2005 8:09:55 PM PDT by patton ("Fool," said my Muse to me, "look in thy heart, and write.")
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To: CarolinaGuitarman
i got the pyramid blues???
27 posted on 05/18/2005 8:11:46 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist )
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To: NormsRevenge

After having read about it, and seen it referred to in movies, as well as hearing about it at assorted ren-fests, I finally got around to trying mead.

Mead is wine made of fermented honey.

All I can say is, WOW! That's GOOD! I can't wait to try it hot, with a spice packet steeped in it!

Mark


28 posted on 05/18/2005 8:12:16 PM PDT by MarkL (I've got a fever, and the only prescription is MORE COWBELL!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge
"FoulStuff.. uhh, Falstaff , it was "

Years ago, a friend of mine sent some of that to his state dept of health for analysis.

Two weeks later he got a reply: "Dear xxxx; We regret to inform you that your horse has diabetes.

29 posted on 05/18/2005 8:19:45 PM PDT by OldEagle (We might be in the end times, but it looks like we are finally moving in the RIGHT direction.)
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To: TFFKAMM
i don;t know about your friend, but here's my take as to why:

Beer was the foundation of civilization.

Man was a hunter of meat and gatherer of seeds.
One day he ate some seed that had gotten wet and had fermented.
He caught a BUZZzzz and liked the way it felt.
It took awhile for him to connect the dots in the wet grain/fermentation process to the buzzz... but he did.
He said to himself, hummm, instead of chasing the crops, if I stay in ONE PLACE and plant this stuff I can have all the wet grain I need to get buzzzed on???
Simple... instant farmer / civilization.

30 posted on 05/18/2005 8:19:46 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist )
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To: TFFKAMM
Alcohol--throughout history, the cause of...and the solution to...all of life's problems.
31 posted on 05/18/2005 8:21:14 PM PDT by RichInOC (...Phi Kappa Sigma, Beta Rho '87...my liver is evil. I must kill it.)
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To: TFFKAMM

If there's anything in them, it couldn't possibly be any worse than any Budweiser or Coors made last week.


32 posted on 05/18/2005 8:23:00 PM PDT by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: glock rocks; NormsRevenge

Some grave digger has found your stash for Sundays race...


33 posted on 05/18/2005 8:24:15 PM PDT by tubebender (We child proofed our house but they still get in...)
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To: TFFKAMM

hold muh beer alert?


34 posted on 05/18/2005 8:25:32 PM PDT by I'm ALL Right! (www.teach-your-kids.com)
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To: TFFKAMM

From research I've seen, the beer jars carried Budweiser incriptions.


35 posted on 05/18/2005 8:28:37 PM PDT by Chu Gary (USN Intel guy 1967 - 1970)
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To: MarkL
[I finally got around to trying mead. ...All I can say is, WOW! That's GOOD! I can't wait to try it hot, with a spice packet steeped in it!]


Take this advice from a mead maker; the best tasting mead is made with additional ingredients, especially fruits and/or spices. If you can get a hold of a good grape, apple, or raspberry mead, or mead with cinnamon or ginger then you'll be in heaven.

Also, mead is reported to be an aphrodisiac and I believe from personal experience that theory has merit.
36 posted on 05/18/2005 8:41:55 PM PDT by spinestein (There is no beer in heaven. That is why we drink it here.)
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To: tubebender
LOL..


Pharaoh's Gold

Pharaoh's Gold is truly a unique beer. Formulated from beer sediments found in an ancient brewery beneath the Sun Temple of Queen Nefertiti.

That's the hype on this Egyptian beer site anyway.. Never tried it, don't endorse it, and probably can't afford it either,, ;-)

37 posted on 05/18/2005 8:44:22 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... The War on Terrorism is the ultimate 'faith-based' initiative.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Will they sponsor our race car???


38 posted on 05/18/2005 8:48:11 PM PDT by tubebender (We child proofed our house but they still get in...)
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To: Blue Screen of Death
"Not to mention that it allowed ugly women to reproduce."


39 posted on 05/18/2005 8:49:48 PM PDT by TheLion
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To: spinestein

Well, the mead that I've tried is from California, the brand is Chaucers. I found a liquor store here in KC that has 4 or 5 different brands. 2 brands are from Poland!

All I know is that it's really different. But then I like drinking "different" things. My favorite libation is Samuel Smith's Taddy Porter, and I like having good chocolate chip cookies, along with Young's Double Chocolate Stout!

But this mead is really something else!

Mark


40 posted on 05/18/2005 8:54:44 PM PDT by MarkL (I've got a fever, and the only prescription is MORE COWBELL!!!)
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