Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Ex-teacher sentenced for having sex with girl
The Sun News ^ | May. 18, 2005 | Kenneth A. Gailliard

Posted on 05/19/2005 12:12:06 AM PDT by kingattax

A former North Myrtle Beach High School teacher who had a sexual relationship with a student for about a year declared his love for the girl Tuesday just before he was sentenced to six years in prison for criminal sexual conduct with a minor.

Stephen George Zeltman told the court: "She's an angel. My actions hurt my angel."

The girl, who is not being identified because she was 14 when the pair began their relationship in March 2002, now is 18. Zeltman is 50.

"They had a consensual relationship," Assistant 15th Circuit Solicitor Karen Hanebrink said. "They considered themselves boyfriend and girlfriend."

Hanebrink said Zeltman bought a car for the girl when she was 15.

She now knows the relationship was wrong because of the differences in their ages and knows Zeltman needs to go to prison, Hanebrink said, but she doesn't think it should be for long.

Zeltman faced up to 20 years in prison. On Tuesday, he pleaded guilty before Circuit Judge Edward Cottingham for a lesser sentence. It was about seven months after he initially was scheduled for trial. Zeltman fled to Indonesia to avoid prosecution.

While there, he survived a tsunami in December but in February was tracked down by U.S. marshals in Bali. Zeltman ran because he was worried about being held in maximum security, Barbara Pratt, his attorney, said during his plea hearing.

"This is a very serious matter," Cottingham said. "To keep the family and the victim from reliving all this in a trial, I agreed to the guilty plea."

He said Zeltman will have to serve at least 85 percent of his sentence.

Hanebrink said she hoped for a stiffer sentence but considers the six-year sentence fair.

The girl's father, who also is not being identified to avoid identifying her, told the court that he thought his daughter was confused when she was 14.

"[Zeltman] came to us as a family friend and promised he was helping to look out for our daughter," the girl's father said. "He had all the parents and teachers fooled."

Prosecutors said Zeltman and the girl had sex regularly, including on school property. At least one student once caught the two involved in a sex act, Hanebrink said.

The allegations of sexual misconduct against Zeltman left students at North Myrtle Beach High "shocked and disappointed," the school's principal said earlier this year.

Zeltman was a drama teacher at North Myrtle Beach High for two years before his arrest. Before that, he worked at South Columbus High School in the Columbus County, N.C., School District.

His relationship with his victim began with flirting, Hanebrink said.

As the relationship progressed, the girl would stay late after drama events to be with Zeltman. After it became sexual, they had sex anywhere they could, she said.

At one point in the relationship, the girl became bothered when she learned Zeltman had represented himself to be about 10 years younger than he is, but she accepted it, Hanebrink said.

They were planning to marry and had picked names for children they planned to have, she said.

Zeltman bought the girl a Chrysler PT Cruiser, which she sometimes drove with him, Hanebrink said.

She never took the car home but instead parked it near her house then walked home, Hanebrick said.

It's unclear what happened to the car, but Hanebrink said it was in Zeltman's name and payments likely stopped when he fled the country. Contact KENNETH A. GAILLIARD at 626-0312 or kgailliard@thesunnews.com.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: ageofconsent; bali; dirtyoldman; edwardcottingham; fugitive; indonesia; karenhanebrink; myrtlebeach; pedophile; stephenzeltman; teacherstudentsex; teenagegirl
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-69 next last
More moral meltdown.
1 posted on 05/19/2005 12:12:06 AM PDT by kingattax
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: kingattax
"They had a consensual relationship," Assistant 15th Circuit Solicitor Karen Hanebrink said. "They considered themselves boyfriend and girlfriend."

Well... How about Man and little girl?

Question: Is it possible that a lawyer can ever recognize just what a freakin sleaze their client is?!?!??
2 posted on 05/19/2005 12:18:45 AM PDT by Paloma_55
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: kingattax

At least he owned up to his errors.


3 posted on 05/19/2005 12:19:32 AM PDT by RedBeaconNY (St Paul on Liberalism: I Corinth 13:11.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: kingattax
[covers face with both hands while shaking head]

Duuuuuuuuude.

I could almost understand it if the guy was twenty-something and fresh out of college. 46? He's a knucklehead.

4 posted on 05/19/2005 12:27:35 AM PDT by RichInOC (Stupidity is its own punishment....just not often enough.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Paloma_55

Paloma_55 wrote:
Question: Is it possible that a lawyer can ever recognize just what a freakin sleaze their client is?!?!??

--> All i wanted from my teachers were good grades, i didn't even get that.


5 posted on 05/19/2005 12:31:53 AM PDT by 1FASTGLOCK45 (FreeRepublic: More fun than watching Dem'Rats drown like Turkeys in the rain! ! !)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: kingattax

"To keep the family and the victim reliving all this in a trial, I agreed to the guilty plea."

Everyone! Please!, a round of applause for Mr. Sugar Daddy! I mean, what a sport. He was thinking about the family and his "angel"; the victim. Now, of course they had to track the fugitive down in Bali, but hey. I'm sure he was thinking about them the entire time he was on the run.

The fact is that this pervert probably couldn't find any woman who would wish to spend time with him. He has the mentality of a boy struggling through puberty(Peter Pan Syndrome), and his ulterior motives for teaching drama are quite evident.

Bought a car for a girl who wasn't even old enough to drive?! Contributing to the delinquency of a minor. Wow, this guy is a character actor. He acts like quite a character; Casanove wannabe, criminal, drama teacher, scum bag, and pervert. Multi-talented.

I'm sure when he gets out, Hollywood will embrace him with open arms. They deserve him.


6 posted on 05/19/2005 12:37:26 AM PDT by This Just In ((In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: kingattax

She had a consensual relationship? At 14?? With a 46-50 year old. Hello!??? Is anyone out there? What's wrong with this country's judges?


7 posted on 05/19/2005 12:52:24 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Remind Liberal Cowards Why America Freed Iraq: http://massgraves.info/)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: This Just In

Hollywood will make an oscar winning movie about him. I'm sure they already have a "generic" movie script ready for him to sign.


8 posted on 05/19/2005 12:53:09 AM PDT by 1FASTGLOCK45 (FreeRepublic: More fun than watching Dem'Rats drown like Turkeys in the rain! ! !)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: This Just In

Very good post!


9 posted on 05/19/2005 12:55:04 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Remind Liberal Cowards Why America Freed Iraq: http://massgraves.info/)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: kingattax; aculeus; Jeremiah Jr; Lijahsbubbe; dennisw
Zeltman faced up to 20 years in prison. On Tuesday, he pleaded guilty before Circuit Judge Edward Cottingham for a lesser sentence. It was about seven months after he initially was scheduled for trial. Zeltman fled to Indonesia to avoid prosecution. While there, he survived a tsunami in December but in February was tracked down by U.S. marshals in Bali.

Flees to Indonesia, only to be chased by a tsunami... get a clue, perv.

10 posted on 05/19/2005 12:59:17 AM PDT by Thinkin' Gal
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: This Just In

Read the article, dude! The judge said that, not the perp.


11 posted on 05/19/2005 12:59:35 AM PDT by rmh47 (Go Kats! - Got Seven?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: kingattax
"Zeltman fled to Indonesia to avoid prosecution."

He should have fled to Los Angeles and used the name Jose Garza and bought some fake ID on the street corner and he would have blended in with all the other fakes. He was a drama teacher, so he should have been able to fake a good accent.

I don't see why they claim that the difference in age made it wrong. For much of history and in many parts of the world, a 14 year old girl would marry an old guy and have his kids. I thought women have a history of marrying young in the South.
12 posted on 05/19/2005 1:07:25 AM PDT by Archidamus (We are wise because we are not so highly educated as to look down on our laws and customs)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Paloma_55

"How about Man and little girl? "

Did you ever notice that their is a difference between a four year old and a fourteen year old girl? What percent of the other fourteen year old girls at that school are regularly having sex? Quite a few, I would wager.


13 posted on 05/19/2005 1:10:02 AM PDT by Archidamus (We are wise because we are not so highly educated as to look down on our laws and customs)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Archidamus

could you please try to be a little more ridiculous ?


14 posted on 05/19/2005 1:10:45 AM PDT by kingattax
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: newzjunkey
"She had a consensual relationship? At 14??"

So you think there are no 14 year old girls having sex at 14? I remember back to my youth and I remember having sex with 14 and 15 year old girls who had plenty of experience at sex and knew what they were doing just as well as older girls. It is not like these girls are playing with Barbie dolls or something, they are fully developed and horny. They are determined to have sex with somebody and they get what they want.
15 posted on 05/19/2005 1:14:16 AM PDT by Archidamus (We are wise because we are not so highly educated as to look down on our laws and customs)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: kingattax

You have led a sheltered life.


16 posted on 05/19/2005 1:15:12 AM PDT by Archidamus (We are wise because we are not so highly educated as to look down on our laws and customs)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: Archidamus

whats the problem ? things too slow over in DUmmieville ?

adios troll


17 posted on 05/19/2005 1:19:14 AM PDT by kingattax
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: Archidamus

That's what pedophiles say.


18 posted on 05/19/2005 2:21:24 AM PDT by NYpeanut (gulping for air, I started crying and yelling at him, "Why did you lie to me?")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: kingattax

The article didn't say how or when the affair was reported. If you do the math, the girl was almost 15, March-May 2002 birthday. It also made him about 46 years old. I'm sure there are plenty of 46 year old, going on 20, that have been fallen prey to some fine looking teenage girls.


19 posted on 05/19/2005 3:02:03 AM PDT by SR 50 (Larry)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: kingattax

could you please try to be a little more ridiculous ?>>>>

Don't be too critical, I thought he was already doing a fine job of it ( : < )


20 posted on 05/19/2005 3:13:45 AM PDT by RipSawyer ("Embed" Michael Moore with the 82nd airborne.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: kingattax

could you please try to be a little more ridiculous ?>>>>

Don't be too critical, I thought he was already doing a fine job of it ( : < )


21 posted on 05/19/2005 3:14:19 AM PDT by RipSawyer ("Embed" Michael Moore with the 82nd airborne.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: kingattax

LOL! What a freak.


22 posted on 05/19/2005 3:29:57 AM PDT by Jaysun (No matter how hot she is, some man, somewhere, is tired of her sh*t)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: Jaysun

The girl and her parents ought to share some of the blame . These days 14 year old girls know exactly what they are doing when it comes to sex . I know there are laws , and I am not condoning what the teacher did , however , it takes two to tango , and the parents even admit the kid was confused . Perhaps the parents' fault ?


23 posted on 05/19/2005 4:03:54 AM PDT by sushiman
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: kingattax
...who had a sexual relationship with a student for about a year declared his love for the girl

This never would have been prosecuted if the teacher had been female. Where is Johnny Cochran when you need him? "If it is gay, it is OK."

24 posted on 05/19/2005 4:08:01 AM PDT by Conservative Infidel (Only thing harder to find in US Senate these days than a Dem w/ a conscience is a Rep w/ a spine.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Archidamus

NAMGLA checking in?


25 posted on 05/19/2005 4:12:05 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: kingattax

I believe we should go and find the prison sentences of all the women teachers who have had sex with 14 year old boys, find out how much time they have served and sentence this man to the Maximum time those women have served.


26 posted on 05/19/2005 4:16:13 AM PDT by sgtbono2002
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: kingattax
Will there be several ladies that will demand to know where these "hottie" teachers were when they were in school?

When the roles are reversed there is a wink and a knowing nod, the culprit gets a slap on the wrist and all the hero guys feel cheated.

27 posted on 05/19/2005 4:20:13 AM PDT by cynicom
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Archidamus

Is your name Zeltman??? Or are you just another braggart buffoon????


28 posted on 05/19/2005 4:23:43 AM PDT by cynicom
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: kingattax

Actually, he's not that far off..

I'm only about 10 years removed from Jr. High.. There were definently many 14 and 15 year olds having sex.. Most of them with older students in either high school or out of high school.

In the 9th grade there was one girl who already had a kid and was pregnant with another.

This in the red parts of Pennsylvania. It's happening..


29 posted on 05/19/2005 4:28:56 AM PDT by Josh in PA
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: kingattax; 2A Patriot; 2nd amendment mama; 4everontheRight; 77Jimmy; Abbeville Conservative; ...

South Carolina Ping

Add me to the ping list. Remove me from the ping list.

30 posted on 05/19/2005 4:31:37 AM PDT by SC Swamp Fox (Aim small, miss small.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: kingattax

This is nothing new. Back in the 70's our coach began having sex with a 12 year old girl. Back then, there was no such thing as filing charges and everyone rolled their eyes. The relationship lasted for years, they eventually married when she was in her 20's, they had kids, and finally divorced. We also had a female teacher who gave, um, private instruction to the boys. Nothing was done about that situation either. I'm not condoning this, just stating all the media jumping on every incident with teachers and boy scout leaders is nothing new.


31 posted on 05/19/2005 4:32:14 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: kingattax
"She's an angel. My actions hurt my angel."

What a freak.

32 posted on 05/19/2005 4:46:07 AM PDT by csvset
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: mtbopfuyn
in one sense it is nothing new. Perversion has always been around. In another sense it is different. A guy who did this kind of stuff in my home town had to flee the town, and it was NOT for fear of arrest. An enraged pair of male relatives beat the living hell out of him and told him if he stuck around, they would fly his balls underneath the fed/state as a third banner on the school flagpole. He moved in 2 days, and he was lucky they did not kill him.

The community's tolerance for such stuff is what is different.
33 posted on 05/19/2005 4:53:34 AM PDT by chronic_loser
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

To: Archidamus
True, fourteen year old girls are sexually mature, and some of hem are horny. And yes, it does takes two to tango. However, adults, especially supervising adults like parents and teachers, have a statutory duty to protect these young girls, precisely because they are immature. Lots of 14 year old girls talk trash and do drugs, too. But teachers should do anything in their power to discourage such behavior.

This behavior differs from practices in other cultures where young girls married old men. This teacher offered the girl no honor, permanent security, or environment in which to raise a family.

34 posted on 05/19/2005 4:54:37 AM PDT by keats5
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: kingattax
I noticed that a few posters mentioned that it would be possible for the pair to have married even when the girl was 14. I checked, and indeed apparently it is still South Carolina law that girls can marry at age 14 with parental consent:

Under 18: If you are under the age of 18, parental consent can be granted for boys who are at least 16 years old and for girls who are at least 14 years old. All minor applicants must file an original birth certificate or a certified copy of their birth certificate, which becomes a part of their permanent application record. The parent or legal guardian of a minor applicant must appear at the same time as the minor to present identification and sign a form consenting to the marriage.

35 posted on 05/19/2005 4:55:54 AM PDT by snowsislander
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: cynicom
Will there be several ladies that will demand to know where these "hottie" teachers were when they were in school?

I doubt it ... but you never know. The question is interesting to me, though, because the "much-older man" dynamic is popular in movies and TV. Sean Connery in his 70's with women in their 20's, for example. A "thing" with an older man is presented as desirable.

Young girls are easily influenced by pop culture. In fact, young girls are easily influenced by just about *anything*, which is one reason they should be protected by adults, not used by adults. I have a 14-year-old daughter; I know what she and her friends are like. I don't care how physically-adult they seem - they are two tacos short of a combination plate, judgment-wise.

And lest I seem to be male-bashing, I would substitute "boys" for "girls" anywhere in my comments.

36 posted on 05/19/2005 5:00:17 AM PDT by Tax-chick (I'm a shallow, demagoguic sectarian because it's easier than working for a living.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: Tax-chick
It never fails that when there is a thread about a female molesting a young boy, the male heros here all bemoan the fact that they never had that opportunity etc etc.

When they appear, and they are always the same posters, one has to wonder how they actually manage in open society.

I have never seen any females here wailing because they missed the opportunity of having a much older male teacher show them the ways of the world.

37 posted on 05/19/2005 5:15:09 AM PDT by cynicom
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | View Replies]

To: cynicom
I have never seen any females here wailing because they missed the opportunity of having a much older male teacher show them the ways of the world.

Neither have I. They probably don't look back too fondly on sexual activity with teenage boys, either. Promiscuity is a losing proposition for girls, even if they don't realize it until it's too late.

38 posted on 05/19/2005 5:25:50 AM PDT by Tax-chick (I'm a shallow, demagoguic sectarian because it's easier than working for a living.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 37 | View Replies]

To: Archidamus

Ordinarily, I might say, "Welcome to FR".....


39 posted on 05/19/2005 5:30:27 AM PDT by Mamzelle
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: SR 50
I'm sure there are plenty of 46 year old, going on 20, that have been fallen prey to some fine looking teenage girls.

I'm sure that plenty of middle-aged men enjoy looking at pretty teenaged girls, and I know that teenaged girls will test boundaries by flirting.

But if the line is crossed, it's the girl who is prey, and the adult male who is the predator.

40 posted on 05/19/2005 5:30:31 AM PDT by proud American in Canada
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: cynicom; Tax-chick
It never fails that when there is a thread about a female molesting a young boy, the male heros here all bemoan the fact that they never had that opportunity

No kidding. That drives me completely nuts.

Actually, it infuriates me. It belittles what it is, which is sexual abuse.

This bias is everywhere. Just recently there was an article in the Connecticut Post about an adult woman who molested an 8 year old boy with a headline that called it an "affair."

41 posted on 05/19/2005 5:35:06 AM PDT by proud American in Canada
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 37 | View Replies]

To: Tax-chick
re: doubt it ... but you never know. The question is interesting to me, though, because the "much-older man" dynamic is popular in movies and TV. Sean Connery in his 70's with women in their 20's, for example. A "thing" with an older man is presented as desirable.)))

Some books need to be written on the subject. It's a fantasy for the males--

The old wheezers think that jailbait arm-candy makes them look young and juicy.

It always occurs to me that it's exactly the opposite--"I require a fetish/stimulant to get my act going...and that fetish is flesh as fresh as possible. The failing libido of the aged male needs a rare cure to pin its hopes on--like Mao thinking a parade of adolescent virgins would restore his youth. How laughable--how pathetic.

In this day and age--people are wedded to their sick impulses as "lifestyle choices"--what it indicates to me is that jailbait horndogs are as natural as manure.

42 posted on 05/19/2005 5:37:17 AM PDT by Mamzelle
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | View Replies]

To: proud American in Canada

I know what you mean. On one thread, a poster said that a teacher who had molested a 12-year-old boy did it because her husband "wasn't man enough for her."

Sick.


43 posted on 05/19/2005 5:50:03 AM PDT by Tax-chick (I'm a shallow, demagoguic sectarian because it's easier than working for a living.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 41 | View Replies]

To: Mamzelle
jailbait horndogs are as natural as manure.

Well put. You can see the natural-selection point, though ... a man is naturally going to be attracted to women in their reproductive prime (which is not 14, of course.)

But only the richest and most powerful men are actually get the top breeders :-).

44 posted on 05/19/2005 5:53:34 AM PDT by Tax-chick (I'm a shallow, demagoguic sectarian because it's easier than working for a living.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 42 | View Replies]

To: Archidamus
I remember back to my youth and I remember having sex with 14 and 15 year old girls

Care to say how old were you at that time?

45 posted on 05/19/2005 6:02:28 AM PDT by melancholy (There are no columnists in the MSM, only fifth columnists.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: SR 50
"I'm sure there are plenty of 46 year old, going on 20, that have been fallen prey to some fine looking teenage girls."

Are you people out of your minds? Not only was this girl 14 when she first had sex with this guy, but he was her teacher AND a family friend. He knew exactly how old she was. When it came down to facing up to what he did he ran off to Indonesia: flight is always the best evidence that a person knows they did wrong. Also notice he made no effort to take his "angel" with him when he bugged out, even though she was 16 when he went. It was not about her, but about his pleasure all along. He is a pedophile and would have thrown her over when she turned 20 for the next 13 or 14 year old that would give him what he wanted. Would you let this guy teach drama to YOUR 14 year-old? Would you feel comfortable if he told you as a friend that he would look out for your impressionable daughter while all the while using her as his sexual plaything?

This is not the fault of a 14 year old "Lolita," it is the crime of a middle-aged pedophilic Lothario. For the next 5 1/2 years (he has to serve 85% on this crime before parole eligibility) he will be on the receiving end of the same treatment from his fellow perverts in the Department of Corrections. I hope he enjoys it.

By the way, for whoever it was that criticized the judge, YOU ARE DEAD WRONG! Judge Cottingham is one of the best in the State. If we had 500 Ed Cottinghams on the bench in this State there would be a 75% lower crime rate and no backlog of cases on the civil docket. He is conservative and accepts no B.S. from attorneys.
46 posted on 05/19/2005 6:46:30 AM PDT by Law is not justice but process
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: rmh47
The point is that the bozo plead guilty, and running from the authorities was proof enough that he was guilty.

I find his kind detestable because they prey on gullible, naive young girls.
47 posted on 05/19/2005 8:36:14 AM PDT by This Just In ((In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: sushiman
The girl and her parents ought to share some of the blame . These days 14 year old girls know exactly what they are doing when it comes to sex . I know there are laws , and I am not condoning what the teacher did , however , it takes two to tango , and the parents even admit the kid was confused . Perhaps the parents' fault ?

I was actually commenting on his remark to Archidamus, "could you please try to be a little more ridiculous ?"

As to your question, I agree to some extent. The parents have obviously done a poor job. We started instilling our values into our kids at a very young age - so that now our daughter considers sex before marriage completely out of the question. We hope to God that she continues to feel this way, I suppose you never know, but the least we can do as parents is to make every effort to steer them straight.
48 posted on 05/19/2005 9:30:21 AM PDT by Jaysun (No matter how hot she is, some man, somewhere, is tired of her sh*t)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: Paloma_55

I hate to remind people of this but not too long ago girls of 14 were marrying guys in their 40s. I believe the age of consent is still 14 in some states.


49 posted on 05/19/2005 9:39:37 AM PDT by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Archidamus
Did you ever notice that their is a difference between a four year old and a fourteen year old girl?

Absolutely.

A 4 year old has a very simple mind that is incapable of making rational judgements about things like sex, and has not arrived at a level of physical maturity to appeal to any but the most sick men.

A 14 year old has a very simple mind that is incapable of making rational judgements about things like sex, but might have developed the physical attributes that would appeal to a man who is willing to take advantage of her mental incapacity to render good judgement.

You must not have ever had a 14 year old daughter or this would all be so obvious.
50 posted on 05/19/2005 11:12:24 AM PDT by Paloma_55
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-69 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson