Skip to comments.Aircraft carrier will guard Bush at G8
Posted on 05/19/2005 4:43:34 AM PDT by cooper72
AN aircraft carrier packed with hundreds of US marines will be anchored off the west coast of Scotland during the G8 summit, according to security sources.
The assault ship, also laden with helicopters, is expected to be dispatched as the United States armed forces prepare their own massive security operation to protect the president, George Bush, during the Gleneagles summit in July.
A fleet of Galaxy C-5 planes, carrying armoured limousines and the helicopters that will take Bush and his entourage to the venue, is expected to touch down at Prestwick airport.
The US is also believed to be insisting on having its own command post so it can act independently of the British police and military if there is a threat to the president.
A military source said: "The Americans want to do everything themselves. They want to have their own helicopters; their own armoured limousines. This happens at every summit like this, and it always causes tension between America and their hosts.
"The aircraft carrier is about giving America the capability to do lots of things with people, helicopters and the like. They also want their own command post if Bush decides they have to carry out their own operation."
Meanwhile, security chiefs are planning a ban on all plane, train and vehicle movements around the airport when the worlds most powerful leaders fly in for the meeting.
Advisers want to impose "30-minute total travel exclusion periods" around each flight arriving at Prestwick with a world leader on board, to thwart protesters and terrorists.
The effect could be motorway gridlock, as well as an air-traffic nightmare for holidaymakers. This would mean all roads around the Ayrshire airport being closed, all trains being halted and all commercial flights being grounded for the arrival and departure of Bush, Vladimir Putin, Jacques Chirac and other world leaders for the summit from July 6-8.
Traffic experts say the "lockdowns" could lead to 30-mile tailbacks on the M77, as the effects of the security clampdown are felt as far north as Glasgow and south into Dumfriesshire.
Top-ranking officials met at Prestwick last week to finalise details of the operation.
A security source said: "This is by far the biggest security operation ever mounted on Scottish soil. It may well cause widespread disruption, but that cannot be avoided. Its a small price to pay."
However, the plans have caused alarm among local police chiefs. Military commanders are also concerned that the "no-fly" periods may halt helicopter flights from HMS Gannet, the Royal Navy rescue base.
Prestwick has been chosen as the main arrival airport for the world leaders because it is more difficult for protesters to get to than Edinburgh or Glasgow.
A spokesman for Strathclyde Police said: "There may be traffic delays and disruptions because the leaders of the G8 can change their plans, and this will, in turn, force us to change our plans - but we will be keeping local communities updated."
Its obvious, we're invading Scotland, with the President leading the charge...America always uses the pretext of a Presidential visit to invade....Oh wait, that is in the Bizarro universe.
Why dont we just stay home? If this place is all that dangerous, lets not go.
Aircraft carrier will guard Bush at G8
The assault ship, also laden with helicopters
W can show Chiraq a working carrier.
I don't think that all of us get to go, just the President and his staff.
They mix things up these days. USS Dwight D. Eisenhower (CVN-69) deployed to Haiti during Clinton's Haiti fiasco laden totally with helos. No jets.
Your question is a good one, though. I suspect it'll be an LHD or LHA, not a CV or CVN.
I love it when the "powerful" of the world have to fear the unwashed masses. The more power one attains, that much more fear is realized.
Don't be silly. And what do you mean "this place"?
Anyway, America does this everywhere. President Reagan probably has a team of Delta Force guys around him in heaven right now, "just in case"!
You are right of course. I just cringe when I read an article written in total ignorance. I keep hoping against hope that an editor will read the comment and decide that maybe just maybe their military reporters should know at least a little about the military.
Unwashed masses? There is nothing like American diplomacy! :)
Oh, it's the new ship - the CVNLHD.
Trust me - it's one ship you don't want to mess with.
Oh yeah. Many times I've heard carriers, cruisers, and destroyers referred to as "battleships." I've heard any carrier based aircraft with a jet engine referred to as a "fighter." One can routinely see stories in which masses of troops are referred to as "officers."
The press doesn't get it because they never served, nor do they know anyone who did. For them, the military is an inert entity, able to be moved around the chessboard by them when they achieve the rank to which they all aspire: policy wonk.
I went to grad schoool with many of these types. They know enough about the mil to be dangerous, but not enough to understand its real missions, capabilities, and limitations.
I doubt it was written by a military reporter. Its not a military story. Its a local story, with an American ship off the coast. The type is not really of relevance to the story.
Knit pickers abound as usual. Call it a scow with three drunk marines going to protect Scotland. Who really cares????
Holy $h!t !!
That's a helluva' football team !
Pat Tillman has been able to get God to run defense for us.
Waaayyyy cool !!
Now on to my comment: the skipper of the USS Saipan (LHA 2) gave a group of us poor grunts his command brief a few years ago. He insisted that his ship, while it didn't have airplanes, was indeed an aircraft carrier.
It was an impressive ship. I enjoyed the brief and the tour that followed very much.
Anyway, I had the same question when I read the article. I am assuming it is an LHA/LHD.
LOLOLOL Thanks for my first hardy laugh of the morning.
Other than being a big expensive photo op using my tax money and using my tax money to provide an aircraft carrier no less, does anything good come out of these meetings, anything that cant be accomplished if everybody stayed home? I have the right to see the bill for this.
"...fear the unwashed masses..."
Hey now. I bathe at least once a day.
I would rather see the bill that I help pay for the Welfare in this country.
"I would rather see the bill that I help pay for the Welfare in this country."
That's true. I can't argue with that. We'll just ask for both bills.
I hear it over 200,000 feet long and carries an entire division of marines, all their air and arty support and a really good BX.
When I was growing up, reporters were generally not journalism graduates. The ex military were used as military reporters, ex cops were used as crime reporters etc. Id like to see it go back to that system.
I don't mind the President going to this summit. It would not look good if our President stayed home due to fear. It's better to show the rest of the world our great leader and let them salivate when they see our powerful military protecting him.
Once a day??? We will need certified statements by either your Mother or your wife which ever is pertinent. Please submit in triplicate.
It was written in a Scotland paper but shouldnt an editor catch it?
"It's better to show the rest of the world our great leader and let them salivate when they see our powerful military protecting him."
You've convinced me. I hope they take a lot of underwear with them.
If these poor blokes are frightened by the sight of an assault ship, can you imagine their shock were an aircraft carrier and its full battle group actually to appear?
Well they wont see much since the carrier (or whatever) will be off an uninhabited beach around 50 miles away
LOL, we should fire a few shots also.
Im retired Army but I had the privilege of being Waterborne and often workrd with (helped out) our Navy. The Saipan skipper was correct in a way his ship does carry aircraft, both fixed wing and rotary. They are impressive, carrying troops, landing craft and air elements.
By common convention an aircraft carrier is a CV or CVN.
Bummer! It should be right behind him at all times!
It's an established fact that the streets of Heaven are guarded by United States Marines.
An entire old fashioned Carrier Battle Group? Now that is impressive and attention getting!
Oh dang!!! Now I have to fess up. I bathe at the beginning of each season whether I need it or not. I bath at the end of December as dry season is starting, and again at the beginning of April when raining starts again. Sometimes I feel that I dont need to bathe just because of the changing seasons, but I do it out of habit anyway. My mother would be proud of me.
Well they could - -but they would need a hell of a size of a trailer for it ; )
Thank you for your service, by the way.
Thanks - I can honestly state that I enjoyed about 99% of my time in.
Er...that's "nit pickers" (just to keep things straight)
Sorry but our policy ALWAYS has our guys protecting our president.
Semper Fi Marines.
Firstly why settle for second-best? ;)
Secondly, the marines would not be allowed on British soil anyway.
>>Secondly, the marines would not be allowed on British soil anyway.<<
You cannot allow foreign troops (except for the Secret Service) to be active. They would have no jurisdiction to fight.
Would you like hundreds of British Commandos to be active with jurisdiction in Washington? I don't thinks so! :)