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Lawrence (of Arabia's) Unhappy Legacy Still Casts a Shadow over the Middle East
The Telegraph ^
| May 19, 2005
| James Barr
Posted on 05/19/2005 2:14:50 PM PDT by quidnunc
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posted on
05/19/2005 2:14:54 PM PDT
by
quidnunc
To: quidnunc
As great a movie as 'Lawrence of Arabia' was, the T.E. Lawrence source book, "Seven Pillars of Wisdom", has been called 'Seven Pillars of BS'. He supposedly greatly exxaggerated his role in the conflicts described.
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posted on
05/19/2005 2:17:57 PM PDT
by
Borges
To: quidnunc
Very good article. Thanks for posting.
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posted on
05/19/2005 2:21:05 PM PDT
by
razoroccam
(Then in the name of Allah, they will let loose the Germs of War (http://www.booksurge.com))
To: quidnunc
Sorry, I won't read anything debunking Lawrence.
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posted on
05/19/2005 2:30:29 PM PDT
by
Tax-chick
(I'm a shallow, demagoguic sectarian because it's easier than working for a living.)
To: Tax-chick; Borges
May I recommend this book by Lawrence:
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posted on
05/19/2005 2:35:39 PM PDT
by
BenLurkin
(O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
To: BenLurkin
Thanks, I'll check the library. I tried to get through "Seven Pillars of Wisdom," but I just couldn't! Maybe next time I'm in the hospital.
I think if you're going to blame Lawrence for the Middle East mess, you should blame Gertrude Bell equally.
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posted on
05/19/2005 2:37:29 PM PDT
by
Tax-chick
(I'm a shallow, demagoguic sectarian because it's easier than working for a living.)
To: Tax-chick
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posted on
05/19/2005 2:42:23 PM PDT
by
billorites
(freepo ergo sum)
To: quidnunc
Odd duck, to be sure. I think Lawrence's real legacy wasn't so much that he gave Mecca over to the Arabs
per se but that he left the field open to the House of Saud and its Wahhabi backers in the mid-20's. It is that more than broken promises that has led to the current radicalism that is backed by oil wealth. There is simply no way Lawrence could have anticipated that.
The Turks roundly deny the buggery scenes in the Seven Pillars Of Wisdom, BTW.
To: billorites
The only perfect movie ever made. (Hell of a nose!)
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posted on
05/19/2005 2:44:20 PM PDT
by
Tax-chick
(I'm a shallow, demagoguic sectarian because it's easier than working for a living.)
To: Borges
If that is true, why would he turn down all the medals and high ranking positions he was offered? I don't believe it.
10
posted on
05/19/2005 2:48:34 PM PDT
by
fish hawk
(I am only one, but I am not the only one.)
To: Tax-chick
Pretenders like 'The English Patient' don't even compare.
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posted on
05/19/2005 2:49:44 PM PDT
by
Borges
To: Tax-chick
Tax-chick wrote:
Sorry, I won't read anything debunking Lawrence.How would you know whether or not the article is debubnking Lawrence id you won't read it?
As a matter of fact, the author is taking up cudgles with the British government, not Lawsrence.
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posted on
05/19/2005 2:49:51 PM PDT
by
quidnunc
(Omnis Gaul delenda est)
To: quidnunc
The excerpting made it hard to tell.
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posted on
05/19/2005 2:51:33 PM PDT
by
Tax-chick
(I'm a shallow, demagoguic sectarian because it's easier than working for a living.)
To: Borges
Nothing compares. Perfect.
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posted on
05/19/2005 2:52:05 PM PDT
by
Tax-chick
(I'm a shallow, demagoguic sectarian because it's easier than working for a living.)
To: quidnunc
Lawrence of Arabia. Oh how gay.
To: quidnunc
And "debubnking" and "taking up cudgles" are almost worth a Typso Ping, but I'm having a foggy afternoon and can't think what bad jokes can be made from "cudgles." :-)/
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posted on
05/19/2005 2:53:46 PM PDT
by
Tax-chick
(I'm a shallow, demagoguic sectarian because it's easier than working for a living.)
To: nkycincinnatikid
Remember what Gunnery Sgt. Hartman had to say about people named Lawrence. :-)
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posted on
05/19/2005 2:53:54 PM PDT
by
Borges
To: Borges
No, please refresh our memories. Anytime a Gunny has something to say, it's worth listening to--or else.
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posted on
05/19/2005 2:57:07 PM PDT
by
brushcop
(Remember SFC David Salie, a gentle giant of a man KIA (2-14-05) Iraq fighting for their liberty.)
To: brushcop
I don't know if I can say that here but here goes. "Only faggotts and sailors are called Lawrence!"
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posted on
05/19/2005 2:58:37 PM PDT
by
Borges
To: Borges
"How tall are you, private?"
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