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Astronaut Asks Congress to Investigate Threatening Asteroid
Space.com ^ | May 19th, 2005 | Leonard David

Posted on 05/19/2005 11:33:56 PM PDT by Termite_Commander

WASHINGTON, D.C. – A former NASA astronaut will call on the U.S. Congress to evaluate an asteroid with a small chance of hitting Earth in 2036 and suggest lawmakers consider a space mission to monitor the object, SPACE.com has learned.

Russell Schweickart arrives here today to make his case. He'll also ask Congress to assign to a government agency the responsibility of protecting the public from space rocks.

The call to action stems from an orbiting hunk of stone that for a few days around Christmas had scientists on the edges of their seats.

The asteroid, named 2004 MN4, was found last year. It orbits the Sun but crosses the path of Earth. In December, preliminary observations showed it might strike in 2029, according to NASA scientists. It briefly had the highest odds ever assigned to a possible collision. Further investigation ruled out the 2029 impact scenario, but scientists cannot yet rule out an impact in 2036.

The odds of a collision in 2036 are about 1-in-10,000, Schweickart says.

In fact, there are several scenarios between 2034 and 2065 in which 2004 MN4 has even smaller odds of striking. Schweickart and other scientists stress, however, that future observations are likely to reduce all these odds to zero.

Time to act

Meanwhile, Schweickart thinks the time to act is now.

SPACE.com was provided a copy of the paper Schweickart will present. In it, he carries out an informal analysis of the situation. He notes that the asteroid will be mostly out of view from 2006 to 2012. When it re-emerges, fresh observation will likely reduce the 2036 impact chance to zero, he said.

"However, there is a slim chance that we will not be able to draw this conclusion and that an impact will still be possible," he writes.

"One of the first things I’m calling for is validation and checking of the analysis I’ve gone through and the conclusions that fall out of my work," Schweickart told SPACE.com.

Schweickart heads up the B612 Foundation, which since 2003 has advocated for more research and action to protect Earth from stray asteroids.

Call to action

Should his analysis prove correct after formal study, Schweickart says serious consideration should be given to first placing a radio transponder on the asteroid in order to better track its whereabouts.

The former Apollo astronaut will take his message to Congressional lawmakers and detail his concerns at the International Space Development Conference being held here this week by the National Space Society, a space advocacy organization.

Astronomers agree that sooner or later Earth will be struck by a damaging asteroid. While one could sneak up on us any day, the overwhelming odds are that any potential significant impact will be known years in advance.

NASA has been charged by Congress with finding potentially hazardous space rocks. Yet only last year, after a separate brief scare, did officials formalize lines of communication between NASA's top brass and the astronomers who find and monitor space rocks.

Still, there are no formal lines of communication between NASA and the White House to handle an imminent threat. And there is no U.S. agency to which the issue of protection of the public and property from the impact of near-Earth asteroids is assigned, Schweickart points out. Who would decide on whether and how to deflect an incoming threat? What agencies would be mobilized to deal with an impact?

The U.S. Congress should take action and assign that responsibility, he said.

"In general, I am calling upon them is to address the overall issue of responsibility for near-Earth object activity in the U.S. government, which does not exist right now," Schweickart said.

Close brush

Asteroid 2004 MN4 was discovered through the efforts of NASA’s Spaceguard Survey.

The object is estimated to be roughly 1,000 feet (320 meters) in diameter. Were it to hit the planet, it would not cause global devastation but would generate considerable local or regional damage, experts say.

"This is not a marginal asteroid," Schweickart said.

On April 13, 2029, 2004 MN4 will be about 22,600 miles (36,350 kilometers) from Earth's center. That is just below the altitude of geosynchronous satellites.

The extremely rare event will be visible from certain parts of Earth.

The flyby will change the orbit of the asteroid and create "a low, but real possibility" that it will return to hit Earth seven years later on April 13, 2036, Schweickart advised.

There are no formal plans in place, at NASA or elsewhere, for destroying or deflecting an incoming asteroid. But if it needs to be nudged off course, you don’t wait until after 2029, Schweickart explained. By then it will take far more energy to deflect the rock, he said.

"We’ve got to start taking some action right now…to give us accurate enough information…so that we could make a rationale decision whether or not it needs to be deflected. That’s the key," Schweickart said.

If the object were indeed found to have Earth's name on it, or even a ten percent chance of hitting, Schweickart figures it would be prudent to mount a deflecting mission, which might cost a billion dollars.

"Given the devastation that would occur, everyone would want to commit to a deflection mission," Schweickart said. In fleshing out his preliminary analysis, an estimated "path of risk" has been plotted out.

Since Earth is 70 percent ocean, any possible impact might logically be a splashdown. Schweickart lays out one scenario -- again, the odds of such a result are very small -- in which 2004 MN4 hits the Pacific Ocean, about 680 miles (1,100 kilometers) off the Southern California coast. The entire western coastline of the United States would experience a devastating tsunami, resulting in billions of dollars worth of damage, Schweickart says.

Course of action is clear

In his paper to be presented this Friday at the National Space Society meeting, Schweickart suggests spending roughly $300 million to dispatch a robotic scientific mission to 2004 MN4. The probe’s duty would be to park a radio transponder on the asteroid. Additionally, the mission would relay back to Earth the asteroid’s vitals, such as its surface and interior properties.

"This information is in itself invaluable, both for scientific knowledge and for the design of systems necessary to perform an asteroid deflection, whenever it becomes necessary," Schweickart notes.

The accuracy of optical and radar tracking of the asteroid, he said, is likely to be inadequate to make a timely decision to redirect the path of the worrisome space rock if, indeed, such a deflection should be needed.

Given data from the radio transponder, scientists would be able to conclude by 2014 that the asteroid whether the asteroid has a decent chance of hitting or not, Schweickart figures.

"Either way…our course of action is clear," he said. "We either plan another series of cocktail parties to watch the asteroid go by in 2036 -- as we will have done in 2029 -- or we mount the most important space mission in human history."

SPACE.com's Robert Roy Britt contributed to this report.


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Just in case you haven't gotten your daily serving of Gloom and Doom.

If you still need more, go look up bird flu, or super volcanoes. :)
1 posted on 05/19/2005 11:33:57 PM PDT by Termite_Commander
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To: Termite_Commander
Astronaut Asks Congress to Investigate Threatening Asteroid

Was the asteroid leaving him threatening voice mails, or something?

2 posted on 05/19/2005 11:35:41 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Termite_Commander

"If you still need more, go look up bird flu, or super volcanoes. :)"

Unfortunately for the mad hatters, SARS has just kind of fizzled out. And they had so much hope for it!


3 posted on 05/19/2005 11:36:04 PM PDT by flashbunny
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To: Larry Lucido

If so all we need to do is get a restraining order. That will solve everything!


4 posted on 05/19/2005 11:36:33 PM PDT by flashbunny
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To: Larry Lucido
Yes, and he believes Carl Rove is behind it. It's a conspiracy.
5 posted on 05/19/2005 11:36:58 PM PDT by Termite_Commander (Warning: Cynical Right-winger Ahead)
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To: flashbunny

Marburg!!! Marburg!!!


6 posted on 05/19/2005 11:37:33 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Proud parent of Vermont's 6th grade state chess champion.)
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To: Termite_Commander

How'd you like to be the sergeants at arms of the House and Senate and get orders to ride a space shuttle out to that thing to serve a subpoena?


7 posted on 05/19/2005 11:38:19 PM PDT by RichInOC (Sanity used to be a friend of mine...but I haven't seen him around in a while.)
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To: flashbunny
Pfft! Now we've got Marburg, Ebola, Polio, H5N1... What were those other outbreaks? I forget. Anyway, heck, there's no end to the misery!

Don't forget, The Big One will hit California any day now.
8 posted on 05/19/2005 11:42:20 PM PDT by Termite_Commander (Warning: Cynical Right-winger Ahead)
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To: Termite_Commander
Schweickart heads up the B612 Foundation, which since 2003 has advocated for more research and action to protect Earth from stray asteroids.

Wasn't the Little Prince from B612?

9 posted on 05/19/2005 11:43:38 PM PDT by mwyounce
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To: flashbunny; Termite_Commander

Well, then, he should just ask for a probe into his inflammatory asteroid.


10 posted on 05/19/2005 11:43:54 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Larry Lucido

a big rock hit earth when J F kerry release's his 180


11 posted on 05/19/2005 11:45:33 PM PDT by al baby
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To: Termite_Commander

No.....it's all Bush's fault!


12 posted on 05/19/2005 11:53:47 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: Larry Lucido

With any luck, I'll be dead by then. For the rest of you whippersnappers; good luck with the roving bands of Zombies, Cannibals, Werewolves and Nihilists!


13 posted on 05/19/2005 11:54:00 PM PDT by Mongeaux
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To: Termite_Commander

I'll be dead before that thing hits the Earth,,, I am not worried.


14 posted on 05/19/2005 11:55:22 PM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The ( FOOL ) hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: Mongeaux
good luck with the roving bands of Zombies, Cannibals, Werewolves and Nihilists

Just a typical family reunion for me.

15 posted on 05/19/2005 11:57:31 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Larry Lucido
Just a typical family reunion for me.

WOW! I wanna party with you!
16 posted on 05/19/2005 11:59:13 PM PDT by Mongeaux
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To: Beowulf9
Of course! Why didn't I see it before? Bush signed a lucrative deal with Halliburton, in which he used his top secret Asteroid Magnet to draw this rock close to Earth in order to have it mined! After its value is depleted, Bush planned to crash it down onto a community made up mostly of women and minorities!

IMPEACH BUSH!
17 posted on 05/20/2005 12:00:09 AM PDT by Termite_Commander (Warning: Cynical Right-winger Ahead)
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To: Termite_Commander
The odds of a collision in 2036 are about 1-in-10,000, Schweickart says.

Just about the same odds that the demorats give for Social Security going busted in 2036 and they aren't worried about that so why should we be concerned about a stupid asteroid?

18 posted on 05/20/2005 12:03:54 AM PDT by taxesareforever
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To: Larry Lucido

Why? Is it orbiting near Uranus?


19 posted on 05/20/2005 12:04:08 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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To: Termite_Commander
"Either way…our course of action is clear," he said. "We either plan another series of cocktail parties to watch the asteroid go by in 2036 -- as we will have done in 2029 -- or we mount the most important space mission in human history."

WOW THAT IS SUCH A STARK CONTRAST!! LMAO

Ah the credibility that status gives one.. If chariot ever suggested that he would be laughed out of the place then put away

More seriously chariot will consult our aliens and get back to all with a more frank, detailed, and proper solution to the asteroid issue
20 posted on 05/20/2005 12:41:42 AM PDT by chariotdriver
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To: Termite_Commander

Bruce Willis will kick some Assteroid.


21 posted on 05/20/2005 12:53:41 AM PDT by isom35
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To: flashbunny
"If so all we need to do is get a restraining order. That will solve everything!"

Yup....that should effectively disarm it.

22 posted on 05/20/2005 1:12:59 AM PDT by Godebert
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To: Termite_Commander
The object is estimated to be roughly 1,000 feet (320 meters) in diameter.

With a rock that small, wouldn't a nuclear bomb suffice to turn it into harmlessly tiny smithereens that would burn up if they encounter Earth's atmosphere?

23 posted on 05/20/2005 1:18:30 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (No wonder the Southern Baptist Church threw Greer out: Only one god per church! [Ann Coulter])
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To: Termite_Commander

Anybody ever read LUCIFER'S HAMMER, by Larry Niven & Jerry Pournelle? Helluva book, with the coolest surfing scene ever! ... but you won't take asteroids lightly afterward, believe me.


24 posted on 05/20/2005 1:23:01 AM PDT by Hetty_Fauxvert (http://sonoma-moderate.blogspot.com/)
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To: RadioAstronomer

Asteroid ping


25 posted on 05/20/2005 2:37:36 AM PDT by AdmSmith
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To: Termite_Commander

Medicare will be out of money in less than 10 years and SS in 25 and Congress doesn't see the need to do anything about it. What, other than wanting to see NASA get more money to waste, makes this guy think that an improbable astroid hit should get any attention in D C?


26 posted on 05/20/2005 2:42:51 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: Termite_Commander

An exploritory mission with robotics to this asteroid sure makes as much sense as any other NASA mision, excluding military payloads. We've now had 4 rovers crawling around Mars. I'm pretty sure Mars isn't going to run into Earth anytime soon. If there is even the slightest chance that a probe sent to this asteroid would give back needed info, I'm for it. Even if it's just that it could be done at all.


27 posted on 05/20/2005 3:36:33 AM PDT by BillyCrockett
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To: Larry Lucido; Termite_Commander
Was the asteroid leaving him threatening voice mails, or something?

Maybe Sheila Jackson-Lee will subpoena the asteroid to testify before Congress.

28 posted on 05/20/2005 3:51:42 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Andrew Heyward's got to go!)
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To: Termite_Commander

I can see it now. Congress will hold hearings, and will subpoena the asteroid.


29 posted on 05/20/2005 4:04:55 AM PDT by Fresh Wind
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To: Hetty_Fauxvert

LUCIFER'S HAMMER

Great book with the greatest poem I have ever read, "The Friggin' Bird"


30 posted on 05/20/2005 4:10:29 AM PDT by commonasdirt
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To: commonasdirt

Actually, "The Friggin' Falcon".

I went out to take a friggin' walk by the friggin' reservoir, awishin' for a friggin' quid to pay my friggin' score, my head it was aachin' and my throat was parched and dry, and so I sent a little prayer, awingin' to the sky
...
And there came a friggin' falcon and he walked upon the waves, and I said, "A friggin' miracle!" and sang a couple staves, of a friggin' churchy ballad I learned when I was young.

The friggin' bird took to the air, and spattered me with dung.

I fell upon my friggin' knees and bowed my friggin' head, and said three friggin' Aves for all my friggin' dead, and then I got upon my feet and said another ten. The friggin' bird burst into flameÑand spattered me again.

There was the Millers' gate. He couldn't see anyone. There were no fresh ruts in their drive. Harry wondered if they'd gone out last night. They certainly hadn't made it out today. He sank into deep mud as he went up the long drive toward the house. They wouldn't have a phone, but maybe he could bum a cup of coffee, even a ride into town.

The burnin' bird hung in the sky just like a friggin' sun. It seared my friggin' eyelids shut, and when the job was done, the friggin' bird flashed cross the sky just like a shootin' star. I ran to tell the friggin' priestÑhe bummed my last cigar.

I told him of the miracle, he told me of the Rose, I showed him bird crap in my hair, the bastard held his nose. I went to see the bishop but the friggin' bishop said, "Go home and sleep it off, you sodÑand wash your friggin' head!"
...
Then I came upon a friggin' wake for a friggin' rotten swine, by the name of Jock O'Leary and I touched his head with mine, and old Jock sat up in his box and raised his friggin' head.
His wife took out a fortyfour, and shot the bastard dead.

Again I touched his head with mine and brought him back to life.

His smiling face rolled on the floor, this time she used a knife.

And then she fell upon her knees, and started in to pray,

"It's forty years, O Lord," she said, "I've waited for this day."
...
So I walked the friggin' city 'mongst the friggin' halt and lame, and every time I raised 'em up, they got knocked down again, 'cause the love of God comes down to man in a friggin' curious way, but when a man is marked for love, that love is here to stay.
...
And this I know because I've got a friggin' curious sign; for every time I wash my head, the water turns to wine! And I gives it free to workin' blokes to brighten up their lives, so they don't kick no dogs around, nor beat up on their wives.
...
'Cause there ain't no use to miracles like walkin' on the sea; They crucified the Son of God, but they don't muck with me! 'Cause I leave the friggin' blind alone, the dyin' and the dead, but every day at four o'clock, I wash my friggin' head!


31 posted on 05/20/2005 6:07:14 AM PDT by Mr170IQ
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To: flashbunny

Ah, the days of the SARS terror. It makes me nostalgic.


32 posted on 05/20/2005 6:10:41 AM PDT by Trust but Verify (Pull up a chair and watch history being made.)
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To: Larry Lucido

Democrats filibuster "threatening" asteroid".
Senator Reid, "We cannot allow something this EXTREME
to enter our atmosphere! Republicans want to change the
rule of gravity that has a long tradition here on earth.
These "asteroids" are out of the mainstream etc, etc, etc."


33 posted on 05/20/2005 6:14:08 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Termite_Commander
>>>>>Schweickart and other scientists stress, however, that future observations are likely to reduce all these odds to zero.

Oh good, a group of scientists and astronauts who have totally neglected their STAT 101. The observations are totally independent of whether this asteroid hits, or does not hit. They only provide the observer with greater confidence to report whether or not a collision is likely.
34 posted on 05/20/2005 6:15:05 AM PDT by .cnI redruM ("Every man's your brother 'til the rent comes due" - Anon.)
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To: Hetty_Fauxvert
That was awesome!!!

In fact, I think I'll read it again!

Next to Bradbury and Asimov, Niven wrote the best sci-fi out there.
35 posted on 05/20/2005 6:17:28 AM PDT by .cnI redruM ("Every man's your brother 'til the rent comes due" - Anon.)
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To: .cnI redruM

Observation independent of result? Really? But what if we are dealing with............SCHRODINGER'S ASTEROID?!?!?!?!?


36 posted on 05/20/2005 6:21:20 AM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: taxesareforever

Yikes, Bruce Willis might be dead in 2036!!


37 posted on 05/20/2005 6:23:34 AM PDT by Sybeck1 (chance is the “magic wand to make not only rabbits but entire universes appear out of nothing.”)
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To: Termite_Commander
Let's try a liberal solution.

Everybody pick up a fistful of dollars and throw it at the asteroid.

38 posted on 05/20/2005 6:24:08 AM PDT by freedomson (Tagline comment removed by moderator)
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To: Hegewisch Dupa
You should then launch Schrodinger's cat to swat it away with his ethereal paw that may or may not really exist and has a high probability of being at that particular point in space but could also really be somewhere else.
39 posted on 05/20/2005 6:27:32 AM PDT by .cnI redruM ("Every man's your brother 'til the rent comes due" - Anon.)
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To: Termite_Commander
As captain of the S.S. Triangle

I believe I have experience in these matters.

40 posted on 05/20/2005 6:27:46 AM PDT by freedomson (Tagline comment removed by moderator)
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To: Hetty_Fauxvert

The 2029 fly by has a miss of 14,000 miles which is a gnats ass by astronomical standards. Some day we will get hit.


41 posted on 05/20/2005 6:29:02 AM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: HiTech RedNeck
With a rock that small, wouldn't a nuclear bomb suffice to turn it into harmlessly tiny smithereens that would burn up if they encounter Earth's atmosphere?

No. An explosion is most effective when it is confined. The difference between a hand grenade and a smoke bomb is the hard shell that breaks suddenly when the gasses inside are at maximum pressure. A bomb in a closed room is much more deadly than the same bomb outdoors.

In the case of an atomic weapon, the "containment" is the earth's atmosphere. Much of the damage is done by the shockwave going through the atmosphere. The air itself acts as gaseous shrapnel. The air pressure all around holds the explosion in which localizes the force where you want it.

In the vacuum of space, all that is left after a nuclear detonation is a few pounds of atoms traveling at high speed. The confinement on one side by the asteroid itself would allow for a small crater. But most of the force would fly unimpeded into space.

But if you could get a hole 500 feet deep to the center of the asteroid (presumably by having Haliburton mining it for valuables as another poster suggested) then the asteroid itself would be like a grenade shell. Most asteroids are not very cohesive (except iron ones), in fact most being a rockpiles held together by feeble gravity. So, assuming you could dig such a hole and deposit a bomb into it, a fairly modest atomic weapon should be able to fragment it and send the parts in various directions at the necessary speed. (If large parts are moving away at less than a few feet per second, gravity will just pull them back together into a slightly rearranged rockpile.)
42 posted on 05/20/2005 6:59:26 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth...)
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To: BillyCrockett
An exploritory mission with robotics to this asteroid sure makes as much sense as any other NASA mision

Not needed. Observation alone is enough to make an accurate ephemeris.

43 posted on 05/20/2005 7:08:12 AM PDT by RadioAstronomer
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To: freedomson
Let's try a liberal solution.

Everybody pick up a fistful of dollars and throw it at the asteroid.


If that fails, we'll toss daisies at it.
44 posted on 05/20/2005 7:17:32 AM PDT by Termite_Commander (Warning: Cynical Right-winger Ahead)
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To: Termite_Commander

What happens if the Senate decides to subpoena the asteroid?


45 posted on 05/20/2005 7:20:39 AM PDT by Trimegistus
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To: Termite_Commander
In fact, there are several scenarios between 2034 and 2065 in which 2004 MN4 has even smaller odds of striking. Schweickart and other scientists stress, however, that future observations are likely to reduce all these odds to zero.

Ah, who cares, I'll be dead by then. In the meantime, where's my Social Security check??? Signed, AARP

46 posted on 05/20/2005 7:20:47 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (If this isn't the End Times it certainly is a reasonable facsimile...)
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