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A Reputation in Tatters - Time To Impeach Bush (by Paul Craig Roberts)
Chronicles Magazine ^ | 5/20/05

Posted on 05/20/2005 1:26:39 PM PDT by KidGlock

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To: KMAJ2; All
...it appears that the paleocon far right, of which Roberts is one, suffers the same disease as the progressive far left, an elitist mentality that has to spew hate to try to make a point. Both are fringe elements in this society and political system and both have a disconnect for dealing with the problems that do exist today, remaining mired in policies and beliefs of the past...

Thank you.

261 posted on 05/20/2005 5:38:59 PM PDT by tarheelswamprat (This tagline space for rent - cheap!)
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To: sport
Another explanation would be that the nurse put the diaper on the wrong turd.

I'm guessin only you and really dumb nurse woulda put a diaper on a turd.

262 posted on 05/20/2005 5:39:42 PM PDT by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan.)
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To: Peach
LOL. Sounds just like him, doesn't it?

yup!

Good to see you, Peach! :-) Are you on with-drawl (pun intended) from that Southern drama since the bridesmaids and ex's have talked and she's clammed up?

263 posted on 05/20/2005 5:41:11 PM PDT by Gondring (Pretend you don't know me...I'm in the WPPFF.)
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To: muawiyah
He's just a commentator these days, neither respected nor Conservative.

I'm 69.

This craziness too will pass.

264 posted on 05/20/2005 5:41:44 PM PDT by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan.)
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To: DaveTesla

I know many Christians who look forward to ... oh, nevermind.

In any case, not all Christians are theocons.


265 posted on 05/20/2005 5:42:55 PM PDT by Gondring (Pretend you don't know me...I'm in the WPPFF.)
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To: KidGlock
Who's going to lead the impeachment ? Tom Delay ?

bwahahahaha !!

RATS HAVE NO POWER

Liberalism =Mental Illness
266 posted on 05/20/2005 5:43:27 PM PDT by John Lenin
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To: John Lenin

It's true that there are few conservatives left in Congress.


267 posted on 05/20/2005 5:44:50 PM PDT by Gondring (Pretend you don't know me...I'm in the WPPFF.)
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To: mountainfolk; Miss Marple
Here's more:

1987: Iraq fires two Exorcet missiles at the USS Stark, killing 37 sailors.

1990: Iraq invades Kuwait...told to leave. He said, "pound sand". We did.

1991: Iraq signs a ceasefire agreement they totally ignore. I don't know what dictionary iconoclast uses but when you don't meet the requirements of a ceasefire you might get fired upon.

Throughout the 1990's Iraq ignored the UN resolutions and the weapons inspectors as he played cat and mouse games and consistently shot at US and British planes in the no-fly zones they AGREED to.

They were required to destroy or turn over their WMD's and the programs to make them. They ignored it completely and even kicked out the UN inspectors never accounting for them.

They tried to assassinate George H.W. Bush (proven) and never paid the price.

Finally, after 9/11, it was time to quit playing games with them as they did everything Miss Marple listed. We dragged our feet for ONE MORE ridiculous UN resolution that REQUIRED they turn over or show proof of the destruction of the WMD's we KNOW THEY HAD because the UN inventoried much of them. They didn't.

All of this came to a boil and was again dragged out as we, again, built up our forces around them. In March 2003 we finally made them pay for their defiance.

And don't forget that under Clinton, regime change in Iraq was official US policy.

It's that simple and just because some crotchety old men can't see that doesn't change the facts.
268 posted on 05/20/2005 5:45:03 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Rats theme song: "Whatever it is...I'm AGAINST it ! - Groucho Marx")
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To: Gondring

Bush is just ramping up revenues for 30 years of RAT socialism. Govenment spending is pretty much on autopilot when it comes to entitlements, blmae 30 years of RAT control of spending.


269 posted on 05/20/2005 5:48:31 PM PDT by John Lenin
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To: Gondring
VERY interesting post!

I happen to believe our conservative salvation will come from the South.

Party? Who cares.

Sex? Who cares?

Race> Who cares?

270 posted on 05/20/2005 5:50:36 PM PDT by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan.)
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To: Fledermaus
Throughout the 1990's Iraq ignored the UN resolutions and the weapons inspectors as he played cat and mouse games and consistently shot at US and British planes in the no-fly zones they AGREED to.

Do you have the reference for where the no-flies were agreed to? I recall looking through UN Resolution 688, and the others, and seeing that we had the right to intervene, but I don't recall them agreeing to the no-fly the way it was implemented.

BTW, I was very vocal at the time in saying that Bush was going about it wrong by playing up the WMD angle. The true and legal justification for going in was in the UN Resolutions. IOW, I'm not just giving a post hoc critique.

By making the legal argument, with true justification, Bush would have had a stronger position in dealing with the UN, too. But he just had to play the emotional card, and that's where he lost. Rather than making the UN fools, he made us look that way. :-(

See...comments like that are why both neocons and paleocons hate me. :-)

271 posted on 05/20/2005 5:51:17 PM PDT by Gondring (Pretend you don't know me...I'm in the WPPFF.)
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To: iconoclast

Do you know much about George Allen of Virginia? I need to learn more about him.


272 posted on 05/20/2005 5:52:10 PM PDT by Gondring (Pretend you don't know me...I'm in the WPPFF.)
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To: Miss Marple
JJ&M. MM

Look it up yourself!

273 posted on 05/20/2005 5:52:29 PM PDT by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan.)
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To: John Lenin
Bush is just ramping up revenues for 30 years of RAT socialism. Govenment spending is pretty much on autopilot when it comes to entitlements, blmae 30 years of RAT control of spending.

Huh?

Do you have a source showing your claim that Bush hasn't increased spending beyond automatic adjustments?

274 posted on 05/20/2005 5:53:18 PM PDT by Gondring (Pretend you don't know me...I'm in the WPPFF.)
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To: Gondring

I don't think he made us look like fools. Only the idiots that didn't like our position thought that and we know now they were all bribed by Saddam.

I thought the no-fly zones were in the ceasefire agreement.


275 posted on 05/20/2005 5:54:40 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Rats theme song: "Whatever it is...I'm AGAINST it ! - Groucho Marx")
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To: Petronski
How sad for you to only now find out that you do not command the universe!

I'm old and tired, but I'd love to give it a try. ;o)

276 posted on 05/20/2005 5:55:36 PM PDT by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan.)
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To: iconoclast
I have no idea what those initials stand for. YOU are the one who said the administration had disavowed the points I made. Therefore, YOU are the one who should cite references.

I am not bound to look up anything, since I have already cited the points made by the President in his speech before the UN.

277 posted on 05/20/2005 5:56:58 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: Peach

You know very well I don't reply to you.


278 posted on 05/20/2005 5:57:52 PM PDT by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan.)
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To: KidGlock

There is only two issues The President should be held accountable for and they are significant enough to warrant serious consequences if he persists. One... Ramming a Palestenian State down The Jewish Nation's throat and refusing to secure the borders of our Country and dealing with Illegal Immigration. If he does then it is serious to consider the alternative action of Impeachment!


279 posted on 05/20/2005 5:58:32 PM PDT by winker
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To: iconoclast

Because you can't.


280 posted on 05/20/2005 5:59:15 PM PDT by Peach
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