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NY Times: Qaeda Letters Are Said to Show Pre-9/11 Anthrax Plans! [5/21/2005]
NY Times ^ | 5/21/2005 | ERIC LIPTON

Posted on 05/21/2005 12:52:15 AM PDT by Southack

Qaeda Letters Are Said to Show Pre-9/11 Anthrax Plans

WASHINGTON, May 20 -Al Qaeda operatives in Afghanistan began to assemble the equipment necessary to build a rudimentary biological weapons laboratory before the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, letters released by the Defense Department show.

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The letters are among the documents recovered in late 2001 after the invasion of Afghanistan that United States intelligence officials have frequently cited as evidence that Al Qaeda was working to develop biological weapons.

The letters...detail a visit by an unnamed Qaeda scientist to a laboratory at an unspecified location where he was shown "a special confidential room" with thousands of samples of biological substances. ...

The letter specifies a training program for the staff, lasting six to eight months for senior workers and two to four months for technicians. ... describes a biological weapons program that "was extensive, well organized and operated two years before the Sept. 11." ....

"They were moving to try to get the right stuff," said D. A. Henderson, an expert on biological weapons ... ...Dr. Milton Leitenberg...said many of people who were involved in the effort had been arrested or, in one case, killed. ...

The writer of the two letters is widely believed to be Abdur Rauf, a Pakistani microbiologist who is known to have attended a conference before 2001 sponsored by the Society for Applied Microbiology, said a biological weapons researcher who insisted on anonymity because of his work investigating Al Qaeda.

One letter was written on a notepad from the Society for Applied Microbiology, a prominent British organization of microbiologists.

All the names on the letters are blacked out ...

At the same camp where the letters were found, officials recovered articles from medical journals that detailed an approach to isolating, culturing and producing bacteria, including anthrax. ..."

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Anthrax Scare; Breaking News; War on Terror
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Al Qaeda caught involved with anthrax, as discussed here for YEARS...
1 posted on 05/21/2005 12:52:16 AM PDT by Southack
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To: Dog

So much for a disgruntled American being behind the anthrax attacks...

2 posted on 05/21/2005 12:53:09 AM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack
Could it be? Terrorists perpetrating terror attacks? Reported in the NYT? Will the wonders never cease? At least we "finally" solved the mystery of the anthrax attacks.
3 posted on 05/21/2005 12:56:01 AM PDT by Stonedog (I don't know what your problem is, but I bet it's difficult to pronounce.)
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To: Southack
The letter specifies a training program for the staff, lasting six to eight months for senior workers and two to four months for technicians. ... describes a biological weapons program that "was extensive, well organized and operated two years before the Sept. 11." ....

Hmmm, who was President then and what was his main focus at the time??

4 posted on 05/21/2005 1:01:17 AM PDT by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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To: Southack

BTTT


5 posted on 05/21/2005 1:02:45 AM PDT by thegreatbeast (Quid lucrum istic mihi est?)
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To: Southack

Bump.


6 posted on 05/21/2005 1:03:54 AM PDT by Pro-Bush (Can't afford Medical care? Thank an illegal alien.)
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To: DTogo

DTogo wrote:
who was President then and what was his main focus at the time??

--> Don't matter who was president, because remember, Libs conveniently forget history or rewrite it, and
according to Libs (Let's all say it together): IT'S ALL BUSH'S FAULT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! /SARC


7 posted on 05/21/2005 1:04:17 AM PDT by 1FASTGLOCK45 (FreeRepublic: More fun than watching Dem'Rats drown like Turkeys in the rain! ! !)
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To: okie01

Well, well...


8 posted on 05/21/2005 1:06:23 AM PDT by denydenydeny
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To: Southack
From the Terrorist Scorecard:

WMD COMMITTEE
Al-Qaeda employs a number of Muslim scientists of various nationalities, principally Egypt, to assist them in the creation and procurement of chemical, biological, radiological, and nuclear weapons.
Midhat Mursi al-Sayid 'Umar aka Abu Khabab Emir of the WMD Committee At Large Unknown
Assadalah Abdul Rahman Chief of WMD procurement At Large Unknown
Abu Bashir al-Yemeni Unknown At Large Unknown
Aafia Siddiqui Female member of Ghaliani's crew with biological training At large Pakistan
Mohammed Amjad Khan Member of Ghaliani's crew with biological training At large Pakistan
Abdel Karim al-Hadouti Making chemical weapons-tied to GSPC Apprehended In Custody-Belgium
Nizar Trabelsi  Making chemical weapons-tied to GSPC Apprehended In Custody-Belgium
Fauzi el Hadouti Making chemical weapons-tied to GSPC Apprehended-Out on bail Belgium
Mohamed Salem Making chemical weapons-tied to GSPC Apprehended-Out on bail Belgium

9 posted on 05/21/2005 1:12:22 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Proud parent of Vermont's 6th grade state chess champion.)
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To: Southack

WOW! I'd like to read the whole article, but I refuse to sign up with the NYT.

I wonder if this front page news? /sarcasm


10 posted on 05/21/2005 1:29:42 AM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: Stonedog
Reported in the NYT? Will the wonders never cease?

They run stuff like this on Saturday, so they can claim the paper is "balanced". Now they can concentrate on Koran flushings and prisoner abuse for the rest of the week.

11 posted on 05/21/2005 1:31:47 AM PDT by Question Liberal Authority (It's the Anti-Americanism, Stupid!)
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To: Mitchell; Shermy

ping


12 posted on 05/21/2005 1:40:18 AM PDT by Allan
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To: Southack
This can't be true. Everyone knows that the attacks were planned and carried out by operatives for the Bush Administration as an excuse to begin his imperialist agenda of conquering Middle Eastern countries and plundering their oil.

I don't think I have to say that I'm being sarcastic :)

13 posted on 05/21/2005 2:06:03 AM PDT by frankiep
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To: DTogo

If I remember rightly, his focus was video pirating?

CIA directed in 1995 to seek Video Pirates
http://www.FreeRepublic.com/forum/a3ba75bb5147c.htm


14 posted on 05/21/2005 2:41:02 AM PDT by RaceBannon ((Prov 28:1 KJV) The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a lion.)
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To: DTogo
>>>Hmmm, who was President then and what was his main focus at the time??

The one who had an intern slick his willy...
15 posted on 05/21/2005 2:45:09 AM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Life's a beach - and Liberals are like the sand that gets in your swimsuit...)
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To: Southack
So let me see if I get this right. Terrorist were planning terror attacks. And they were planning to use WMDs. OK so were there any terrorists or countries with a grudge harboring those terrorist. But, but ... but

So there really were violent terrorists in Iraq before the war, imagine that. Old news to anyone but a barking moonbat.

BEIRUT, Lebanon, May 19 (UPI) -- Jordan's King Abdullah revealed Thursday that Iraq's former Baath regime had refused to deport Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, blamed for ongoing terrorism in Iraq.

Speaking in an interview with Saudi daily al-Hayat, Abdullah said Zarqawi, a Jordanian, is well entrenched in Iraq and that "he and terrorists like him thrive in such places where security and stability are non-existent."

Abdullah said Jordan was the first target for Zarqawi before he found safe haven in Iraq.

"Since Zarqawi entered Iraq before the fall of the former regime we have been trying to have him deported back to Jordan for trial, but our efforts were in vain," Abdullah added.

Zarqawi, the purported leader of al-Qaida in Iraq, is accused of terrorist bombings targeting U.S.-led multinational troops and Iraqi forces as well as civilians.

NYTimes lied -- Imagine that.
16 posted on 05/21/2005 2:46:17 AM PDT by Tarpon
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To: onyx

"WOW! I'd like to read the whole article, but I refuse to sign up with the NYT. "

That's what www.bugmenot.com is for, FRiend ;)


17 posted on 05/21/2005 3:54:15 AM PDT by Stellar Dendrite (Allen/DeLay '08!!)
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To: Tarpon
So there really were violent terrorists in Iraq before the war,

"The invasion of Iraq was a profound diversion from the battle against our greatest enemy -- al Qaeda," Kerry said.

"The president's misjudgment, miscalculation and mismanagement . . . all make the war on terror harder to win. George Bush made Saddam Hussein the priority. I would have made Osama bin Laden the priority."

18 posted on 05/21/2005 4:00:40 AM PDT by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: Straight Vermonter

Out on bail?!


19 posted on 05/21/2005 4:24:05 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: Southack

Well I'll be darned..


20 posted on 05/21/2005 4:24:37 AM PDT by Dog
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To: mewzilla

Amazing, isn't it? If you look through the entire list on the scorecard you'll see that we have terrorists in this country out on bail as well.


21 posted on 05/21/2005 4:28:09 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Proud parent of Vermont's 6th grade state chess champion.)
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To: Straight Vermonter

I know. Sigh. I don't know about Belgium's legal system, but why can't we in the US make bail so high for these guys that they'd never be able to make it?


22 posted on 05/21/2005 4:32:13 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: Straight Vermonter
Gee, we've even got one on probation, too.

Snort.

I've got another question, how do we know all the guys who are in custody in Syria are really in custody in Syria? Or are we just hopin' real hard?

23 posted on 05/21/2005 4:34:45 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: Southack

This is all crap. The anthrax was spread by a renegade biologist who used to work for the Army and deranged rednecks in Alabama. CNN said so. /Sheeple-speak off


24 posted on 05/21/2005 5:01:42 AM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Proud infide since 1970.)
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To: Southack

Ah - somehow this is really weird, and I mean this sincerely.

Is this story actually being DEVELOPED by the NYSlimes, or is this just restating a press release of the Pentagon. Somehow, I don't think they are going to change their ways.

I'm so very skeptical about anything coming from the FRAUDcasters and Old Media now -


25 posted on 05/21/2005 5:04:48 AM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: Question Liberal Authority

"They run stuff like this on Saturday, so they can claim the paper is "balanced"..."

Ah - yes ... that 'splains this story. I suspect it was also NOT above the fold on page #1?


26 posted on 05/21/2005 5:06:21 AM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: Southack; Cindy; backhoe

ping.


27 posted on 05/21/2005 5:08:34 AM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: frankiep
... the attacks were planned and carried out by operatives for the Bush Administration as an excuse to begin his imperialist agenda of conquering Middle Eastern countries and plundering their oil.

That's what I love about this site. You get to the bottom of things. Do you have a link for that?

28 posted on 05/21/2005 5:11:39 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Southack
Just like Atta and crew...we found the beginnings of an attack after the fact and saw the attack itself.

Atta and crew all croaked and it was a: "A no captives scenario". I'm inclined to think the same of the Anthrax attacks. Anyone who handled the stuff is dead...except the brain who initiated it. "Martyr Syndrome".

But then again, I think of the young sniper. He left his FLORIDA ??? school on the same day that the first anthrax victim was announced and no one saw him for two weeks. I still think he may have been the one who dropped the anthrax into the mail boxes. The older sniper had had his anthrax shots in the Military and I believe I remember that he bit**** about it.

29 posted on 05/21/2005 5:15:46 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Southack

There's a shocker. And, as usual, with any REAL news it will be swept under the rug because it doesn't fit the hypothesis of the disgruntled-biologist/right-wing/white-supremecist.


30 posted on 05/21/2005 5:22:58 AM PDT by Rocketwolf68
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To: Southack

First thing that comes to mind is the rash of deaths of world renown microbiologists about 10 years ago leading up to 2001. Anybody remember a good summary thread about those incidents?


31 posted on 05/21/2005 5:24:29 AM PDT by Cvengr (<;^))
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To: All

Anthrax is one of those weapons that there is a vaccine for and can therefore be handled easily at all points in any attack. That attack sure cost us a lot of money despite its ineffective "kill rate". (please don't take that as "only a few died...so no big deal". That would be like saying, "Only a few died when the Towers were bombed during the Clinton Administration"...so no big deal....Which is exactly the course Clinton took.


32 posted on 05/21/2005 5:24:45 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: All

I believe this is very old news. I believe there were even drawings of a weather balloon to carry the stuff. "Didn't we find some weather balloon stuff in Iraq?? at one point??


33 posted on 05/21/2005 5:27:23 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Rome2000
Hip bone is connected to the leg bone -- except in the moonbat's world.

All these crazy Islamo-fascists are one and the same.
34 posted on 05/21/2005 5:38:57 AM PDT by Tarpon
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To: Southack

The FBI well get right on it as soon as they finish draining the rest of the swamps in Maryland.


35 posted on 05/21/2005 5:45:04 AM PDT by Semper Paratus
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To: Semper Paratus

What's the FBI?


36 posted on 05/21/2005 5:58:14 AM PDT by Dallas59 (" I have a great team that is going to beat George W. Bush" John Kerry -2004)
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To: Southack

Link to Ross Getman's site:

http://mysite.verizon.net/vze43v8m/


37 posted on 05/21/2005 6:02:43 AM PDT by Prince Charles
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To: Southack

Taking it one step further, what was the only country in the world other than the US or Russia which had the capability to produce military-grade anthrax?


38 posted on 05/21/2005 6:05:52 AM PDT by thoughtomator (A government-funded artist is an incompetent whore)
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To: Southack

Bump!


39 posted on 05/21/2005 6:07:08 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: Stonedog

What?

Your post is not clear what it's trying to say.


40 posted on 05/21/2005 6:13:50 AM PDT by Baraonda (Demographic is destiny. Don't hire 3rd world illegal aliens nor support businesses that hire them.)
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To: 1FASTGLOCK45

"Don't matter who was president,"

I think it DOES matter who is president.

I'm sure these animals wouldn't dare attack us while under the leadership of a strong and determined president like Reagan or Bush.


41 posted on 05/21/2005 6:17:49 AM PDT by Baraonda (Demographic is destiny. Don't hire 3rd world illegal aliens nor support businesses that hire them.)
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To: onyx

"WOW! I'd like to read the whole article, but I refuse to sign up with the NYT."

So do I. I wouldn't dare sign up with a leftist newspaper.

But those who already subscribe to it should post the entire piece. It's difficult to make a comment w/o the full story. I also would not give the leftist media a "hit" by clicking for the entire article.


42 posted on 05/21/2005 6:21:28 AM PDT by Baraonda (Demographic is destiny. Don't hire 3rd world illegal aliens nor support businesses that hire them.)
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To: frankiep

**This can't be true. Everyone knows that the attacks were planned and carried out by operatives for the Bush Administration as an excuse to begin his imperialist agenda of conquering Middle Eastern countries and plundering their oil.**

Oh please! too many paranoids in these threads saying it's Bush's fault. It is not Bush's fault and what you said above is not true.


43 posted on 05/21/2005 6:23:42 AM PDT by Baraonda (Demographic is destiny. Don't hire 3rd world illegal aliens nor support businesses that hire them.)
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To: Stellar Dendrite

Stellar Dendrite,

Thanks for that link....never knew about it.


44 posted on 05/21/2005 6:28:45 AM PDT by Mixer
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To: My2Cents

Ping aling.


45 posted on 05/21/2005 6:30:31 AM PDT by Peach
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To: Southack

BTTT


47 posted on 05/21/2005 6:48:31 AM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Sacajaweau

"Didn't we find some weather balloon stuff in Iraq?? at one point??"

We found lots of drones


48 posted on 05/21/2005 7:00:01 AM PDT by bnelson44 (Armed Forces Day May 21, 2005)
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To: andyandval

"Unfortunately," it says, "I did not find the required culture of b. anthrax, i.e. pathogenic. However, I have started correspondence with [name blacked out] for the supply of the culture."

Who blanked the name out? Now that is interesting


49 posted on 05/21/2005 7:01:27 AM PDT by bnelson44 (Armed Forces Day May 21, 2005)
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To: backhoe; Cvengr
First thing that comes to mind is the rash of deaths of world renown microbiologists about 10 years ago leading up to 2001. Anybody remember a good summary thread about those incidents?

backhoe ~~~ do you have such a list among your various goodies?

50 posted on 05/21/2005 7:02:30 AM PDT by kayak (Have you prayed for your President today?)
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