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Filibuster flap shows GOP hypocrisy (Here, kitty kitty! Blackened fish!)
Letter to Editor | Angela Berger

Posted on 05/21/2005 9:06:37 AM PDT by gutted catfish

Regarding "Filibuster's traditional use is ignored" (Letters, Wednesday):

The writer said the filibuster has never been used before to block a judicial nominee. The truth is that during the Clinton administration, 60 judicial nominees were blocked by Republicans, using means including the filibuster. In fact, Bill Frist even joined in the filibuster of 9th Circuit nominee Richard Paez.

Also, Democrats have approved more than 200 of President Bush's judicial nominees while only 10 have been blocked. For Republicans to make such a big deal over those 10 nominations while they blocked 60 of Clinton's nominees is extremely misleading and hypocritical.

It would also be in their best interest to preserve the filibuster, since they will be in the minority someday and I'm sure they will wish they had.


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1 posted on 05/21/2005 9:06:39 AM PDT by gutted catfish
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To: gutted catfish; MeekOneGOP

riiiiggghhhhtttttt....


ozone?


2 posted on 05/21/2005 9:08:25 AM PDT by MikefromOhio (I joined the EEEVVIILLLL Sam's Club on Friday, April 22nd, 2005.....)
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To: gutted catfish

Sooooooooo, whaddaya think of that?


3 posted on 05/21/2005 9:08:35 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: gutted catfish

ZOT! Go away troll boy.


4 posted on 05/21/2005 9:08:42 AM PDT by CheezyD
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To: gutted catfish; MeekOneGOP

Here kitty, kitty, kitty.


5 posted on 05/21/2005 9:10:00 AM PDT by wolfpat (dum vivimus, vivamus)
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To: gutted catfish

Um, wrong. But you know that.


6 posted on 05/21/2005 9:10:28 AM PDT by Howlin (Up or down on Janice Brown!)
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Comment #7 Removed by Moderator

To: gutted catfish; Neets; Darksheare; scott0347; timpad; Conspiracy Guy; NYC GOP Chick; MeekOneGOP; ...

The kitties have some gutting to do!!!

PING!!


8 posted on 05/21/2005 9:11:08 AM PDT by MikefromOhio (I joined the EEEVVIILLLL Sam's Club on Friday, April 22nd, 2005.....)
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To: gutted catfish

I think deep down the democrats are trying to mask their racism and disdain for the original intent for the Constitution.


9 posted on 05/21/2005 9:11:24 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (If you must filibuster, let the Constitution do the talkin')
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To: gutted catfish
READY...

AIM...

ZOT!

10 posted on 05/21/2005 9:11:25 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg ("`Eddies,' said Ford, `in the space-time continuum.' `Ah,' nodded Arthur, `is he? Is he?'")
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TROLLS - See one? It's less than a hundred yard shot? Hear this music? Get a moderator and take the shot! Reading "This account has been banned or suspended" or "Nobody by that name." It really makes my day, when I sink a P.O.S.!!! Nothing better than fixxing an itchy trigger finger when you know....
11 posted on 05/21/2005 9:11:48 AM PDT by Issaquahking (.)
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To: gutted catfish

>>> The truth is that during the Clinton administration, 60 judicial nominees were blocked by Republicans, using means including the filibuster. <<<

The truth is you have never told the truth in your life. You are a liberal, after all.


12 posted on 05/21/2005 9:13:28 AM PDT by PhilipFreneau ("The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork." -- Psalms 19:1)
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To: gutted catfish

Using the number of nominees that Clinton pulled because of opposition by his own party, I see.

This must be what is called creative accounting.


13 posted on 05/21/2005 9:13:37 AM PDT by Peach
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To: gutted catfish
"in their best interest to preserve the filibuster, since they will be in the minority someday

Not gonna happen

58 Republican Senators in '06

61 Republican Senators in '08

Too bad for you... ZOT

14 posted on 05/21/2005 9:15:28 AM PDT by A message (Counter-revolutionary Capitalist)
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To: Peach

well its the same accounting that the other idiot used last weekend when he said there were 211,000 American deaths in Vietnam....which would equate to about 14 million for World War 2 and about 10 million for World War 1.

Its LIBERAL accounting :)


15 posted on 05/21/2005 9:15:28 AM PDT by MikefromOhio (I joined the EEEVVIILLLL Sam's Club on Friday, April 22nd, 2005.....)
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To: gutted catfish
I believe the issue is at what level the action is occurring. This letter picks a single Clinton nominee that was blocked at a certain level. I believe all ten of those blocked by the demos were blocked at or near this level.

The issue is also wether or not the nominees would be approved by the full senate. I am not sure about the nominee cited in the Clinton years, but these ten would all have been approved by the full sentate. In essence, the Demos, for political purposes, are blocking the ability for the Senate to fulfill its constitutional duty to advise and consent...keeping the other Senators from being able to consent.

But my guess is that the individual who wrote this letter understands this and is coloring the issue their way.

16 posted on 05/21/2005 9:15:34 AM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: gutted catfish

Prepare to be gutted in earnest, TrollTrash!


17 posted on 05/21/2005 9:15:53 AM PDT by MarineDad (Whenever mosques and JDAM's meet, civilization benefits.)
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To: gutted catfish
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18 posted on 05/21/2005 9:16:15 AM PDT by andyandval (Try flushing a book down the toilet....get back to me on how you did)
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To: Matchett-PI

#7 removed because of excerpting requirement for Charles Krauthammer (Washington Post).


19 posted on 05/21/2005 9:16:26 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: gutted catfish

The Mods have been kind enough to not ban you.

How about responding to some of the replies?


20 posted on 05/21/2005 9:16:35 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: gutted catfish
gutted catfish hasn't created an about page.

Gee, I wonder why.

21 posted on 05/21/2005 9:16:54 AM PDT by MARK4
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To: gutted catfish
Vintage May 21,2005.

The solution is easy troll-boy. Just say no to the judicial filibuster. Give the majority an up or down vote. Try it you'll like it. Hey Boo-boo you lost the election. Get over it.

22 posted on 05/21/2005 9:17:06 AM PDT by Calusa (Izzy lied 17 died.)
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To: gutted catfish

Did I make it before the ZOT??


23 posted on 05/21/2005 9:17:41 AM PDT by Ole Okie
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To: MikeinIraq

I hadn't seen last week's creative accounting :-)

Maybe it's the same person?


24 posted on 05/21/2005 9:19:00 AM PDT by Peach
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To: gutted catfish

Please post the source for this ludicrous and fact-free claim. Or admit you made it up.


25 posted on 05/21/2005 9:19:19 AM PDT by savedbygrace ("No Monday morning quarterback has ever led a team to victory" GW Bush)
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To: Peach

very possibly :)


26 posted on 05/21/2005 9:19:20 AM PDT by MikefromOhio (I joined the EEEVVIILLLL Sam's Club on Friday, April 22nd, 2005.....)
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To: MARK4

Mods need to keep this moron around for a while, so the cats can play. He/she/it is such a great laugh.


27 posted on 05/21/2005 9:20:09 AM PDT by AlexW (Reporting from Bratislava)
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To: gutted catfish

Do you have a link to the 'letter to the editor'? Or at least tell us where this letter appeared...


28 posted on 05/21/2005 9:21:37 AM PDT by deport (Accept that some days you're the pigeon, and some days you're the statue....)
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To: gutted catfish
Why lie when the truth is so readily available?

On second thought why not just STFU!

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29 posted on 05/21/2005 9:21:53 AM PDT by andyandval (Try flushing a book down the toilet....get back to me on how you did)
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To: gutted catfish
Totally wrong. The 60 were not filibustered, but the names were submitted in the last minute of Clintoon's term and were not voted on because of the lack of time. Typical of you liberal nuts that don't take the time to check out facts.
30 posted on 05/21/2005 9:22:00 AM PDT by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: Logical me

That was about the same time that Clinton made all his "politcal appointees" full time government employees -- you know, the ones doing all the leaking to the press now.


31 posted on 05/21/2005 9:23:12 AM PDT by Howlin (Up or down on Janice Brown!)
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To: gutted catfish
Being in the minority is like Hell isn't it?

As far as Republicans being in the minority again? Not in your life time. ;)

32 posted on 05/21/2005 9:23:16 AM PDT by G.Mason ( Support your local fact checker every day)
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To: gutted catfish
Yep. I am wondering why you joined today just to post this.

It's considered very rude to post and run.

Where
33 posted on 05/21/2005 9:23:19 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: gutted catfish

It's bunk. The ONE Clinton filibusters for Republicans broke after they had their say. Dems can filibuster for extra debate but not forever.

And the issue isn't all judge nomineees, it's apellate court nominees and the filibuster is unprecedented. They have have stopped 10 of 34 nominees. All of the nominees stopped have outstanding records and are recommended by the ABA.

The Democrats are taking down the filibuster all by themselves. They can stop the nuclear option by voting for cloture on Tuesday.


34 posted on 05/21/2005 9:24:15 AM PDT by tbeatty (I didn't claw my way to the top of the food chain to eat salad.)
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To: MarineDad

Squealers are the tastiest catfish. Especially when fried.


35 posted on 05/21/2005 9:24:55 AM PDT by auboy
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To: tbeatty

Precisely.


36 posted on 05/21/2005 9:25:20 AM PDT by Howlin (Up or down on Janice Brown!)
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To: gutted catfish; MeekOneGOP
IN BEFORE THE ZOT!!!

Every single troll is an ENEMY OF THE REPUBLIC!


37 posted on 05/21/2005 9:26:20 AM PDT by Paul_Denton (Get the U.N. out of the U.S. and U.S. out of the U.N.!)
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To: gutted catfish

11 Megaton surgical ZOT! Nuclear marksmanship at its best!

38 posted on 05/21/2005 9:27:13 AM PDT by Paul_Denton (Get the U.N. out of the U.S. and U.S. out of the U.N.!)
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I noticed the mods are calling us in....but haven't zotted the poster yet.... troll stomp kata
39 posted on 05/21/2005 9:27:26 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: CheezyD

And I was waiting for a bunny....with a pancake....on its head.


40 posted on 05/21/2005 9:28:49 AM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: MikeinIraq
"...since they will be in the minority someday and I'm sure they will wish they had."

Just how many microseconds would it have taken for the Democrat majority to have implemented the "Nuclear Option" to pound down a recalcitrant Republican minority?

In the MSM, it would have been another, "Nothing to see here. Move along." day.

41 posted on 05/21/2005 9:28:50 AM PDT by NicknamedBob ("What's with Modern Music? If I want screaming and shrieking, I can go home to my family." - George)
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"#7 removed because of excerpting requirement for Charles Krauthammer (Washington Post)."

I got the article from the Seattle Times:

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/opinion/2002276043_krauthammer16.html


42 posted on 05/21/2005 9:30:26 AM PDT by Matchett-PI (The difference between ignorant and stupid is that stupid isn't curable.)
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To: NicknamedBob

yep pretty much.....


This guy has been blasted off of this site for now. This tripe is getting a bit old and does really show the left's desperation....


43 posted on 05/21/2005 9:31:19 AM PDT by MikefromOhio (I joined the EEEVVIILLLL Sam's Club on Friday, April 22nd, 2005.....)
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To: gutted catfish

Over 40 replies to your thread and almost 600 views.
Still no response from you.

Wassup with that?


44 posted on 05/21/2005 9:32:46 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
I noticed the mods are calling us in....but haven't zotted the poster yet....

Probebly to see how the troll responds. IF it responds.

I have sensed a great disturbance in the force. As if millions of DUmmies suddenly cried out whining and were completely dumbfounded.


45 posted on 05/21/2005 9:33:10 AM PDT by Paul_Denton (Get the U.N. out of the U.S. and U.S. out of the U.N.!)
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To: gutted catfish

No Justice, No Paez
Mickey Kaus
Posted Saturday, March 11, 2000, at 11:36 PM PT


Last Thursday, the U.S. Senate confirmed Richard Paez, a federal district court judge, for a promotion to the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals. The Friday Los Angeles Times plays this event as a long-overdue ethnic triumph in the face of Republican obstructionism.

Under the headlines "Wait Is Over as Paez Wins Judicial Post" and "Paez Is Finally Confirmed," reporter Richard Simon tells us in his first sentence that Paez had won "after enduring a record 1,506-day wait." In the second paragraph we learn that Vice President Gore suspended his presidential campaign so he could be ready to cast the deciding vote in favor of Paez. In the third paragraph we're told 14 Republicans "broke with Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott (R.-Miss.)" to confirm Paez. In the fourth paragraph Gore is quoted, in Spanish, saying " 'Amigos, hoy finalmente hemos logrado justicia.' ('Friends, today we've finally achieved justice.')" The fifth paragraph begins


More.. just go to Google


46 posted on 05/21/2005 9:37:05 AM PDT by woofie ("Plunk your magic twanger, Froggy!!")
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To: gutted catfish
IT WAS NOT A FILIBUSTER!!!!! If the nominees don't even make it out of commitee they don't get a vote. Clinton's nominees didn't get out of commitee.

The first judicial nominee to be the target of partisan filibuster was Miguel Estrada.

Gutted catfish = lobotomized DUmmie

47 posted on 05/21/2005 9:38:19 AM PDT by infidel29 ("It is only the warlike power of a civilized people that can give peace to the world."- T. Roosevelt)
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To: gutted catfish

I love the smell of ZOT smoke in the morning!!


48 posted on 05/21/2005 9:39:35 AM PDT by Stonedog (I don't know what your problem is, but I bet it's difficult to pronounce.)
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To: gutted catfish


You have to win elections first before you decide what the rules are
49 posted on 05/21/2005 9:41:43 AM PDT by John Lenin (If I offend you, tough, you deserve it)
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To: gutted catfish
The truth is that during the Clinton administration, 60 judicial nominees were blocked by Republicans, using means including the filibuster. In fact, Bill Frist even joined in the filibuster of 9th Circuit nominee Richard Paez.

Sorry but facts and reality matter - First off, the "60" judicial nominees were stopped in "committee" where the laws of the Senate allow for this (this has happened throughout our history) - and none of these judges would have passed on the Senate floor with a majority of the vote (which all of GWB judges would)

Additionally Richard Paez received a "closure" vote! - He was not filibustered!! (because a majority of the Senate...REPUBLICANS included broke off any delay and demanded a "closure" vote for Mr. Paez!...which he received) - Yet these same Democrats now stand in the way of GWB nominee's from getting this same closure vote!

Furthermore GWB has the lowest % of nominated judges confirmed since WWII. He is at 53%!! Jimmy Carter was at 98%, Clinton was in the 80%'s.

There has never in our history been a Judaical nominee filibustered who would gather a majority of the votes on the FULL Senate floor. These are the facts....deal with them!

It is the Democrats (like always) that hate the truth and have to try and spin reality when it doesn't fit their needs.

50 posted on 05/21/2005 9:41:50 AM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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