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White Farmers Reject Mugabe Plea To Return (Zimbabwe)
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 5-22-2005 | Toby Harnden

Posted on 05/21/2005 5:56:38 PM PDT by blam

White farmers reject Mugabe plea to return

By Toby Harnden , Chief Foreign Correspondent
(Filed: 22/05/2005)

White farmers evicted by Robert Mugabe's government have reacted with contempt to an offer that they should return to Zimbabwe to take part in "joint ventures" with those who brutalised them and stole their land.

Gideon Gono, the governor of the country's central bank, suggested the idea last Thursday as a possible solution to Zimbabwe's economic crisis.

A Zimbabwean woman surveys her devastated maize crop

Greg McMurray, a tobacco farmer who fled Zimbabwe in 2001 and is now a grinder at a factory in Wiltshire, said: "These are empty promises. We have had all the assurances before and then they just turn around and change their minds.

"I had them coming into my garden and threatening my fiancée. Men with a bit of beer in their bellies told me, 'We'll come and burn you and your wife and your house'.

"I would love to go back but the economy's in ruins. The place is a shambles. So many professional people have left. It would need a new regime before most of us would think seriously about going back."

The prospect of a return for white farmers was dangled by Mr Gono, Mr Mugabe's leading economic policy maker, in a rambling three-hour statement in which he also announced a 31 per cent devaluation of the Zimbabwean dollar.

He said: "In order to ensure maximum productivity levels, there is great scope in the country promoting and supporting joint ventures between the new farmers with progressive-minded former operators as well as other new investors, so as to hasten the skills transfer cycle."

During the evictions, some white farmers were murdered and many others were beaten and their families abused. The evictions prompted the collapse of the agriculture sector, the traditional engine of the economy.

Those who took over the farms had no specialist knowledge - and most farmland now lies uncultivated. The machinery has been stolen, buildings have been plundered and the former workers are starving.

Eddie Cross, the economics spokesman for the opposition Movement for Democratic Change - which was heavily defeated by the ruling Zanu-PF party in recent parliamentary elections that were widely condemned as being rigged - said that Mr Gono was desperate.

Mr Cross said: "He's got no power and he can't deliver. The reality is a thousand miles away from everything he says. He wants to regain some credibility with multilateral institutions. He has meetings with the International Monetary Fund and World Bank next month. This is about having something to say to those guys. The only salvation will be a change of government and a return to the rule of law.

"Until then, no one's going to invest here or come back. Who on earth is going to do anything in agriculture when there is such dispute over land ownership? They'd be mad."

While Mr Gono's words could be interpreted as an admission that the land seizure policy pursued by Mr Mugabe - which led to him becoming an international pariah - had failed, they offered little comfort to the dispossessed.

One tobacco and cattle farmer, who was forced off his property by armed squatters in 2000, said: "He can't be serious. My house has been burnt down, my fields destroyed and he wants to invite me back?

"There has to be a proper return to respect for property rights. We need facts, not words and a legal framework. No one's going to go back on the basis of this."

The man, who asked to remain anonymous, is among 1,600 evicted landowners who have stayed in Zimbabwe and are attempting to get compensation.

In 2000, there were 4,500 white farmers. Now only 400 remain on parts of their farms, many having made deals with Mugabe's regime. Thousands of others lost everything and have had to seek help to set themselves up in ventures outside Zimbabwe.

Colin Ransome, of the Zimbabwe Farmers Trust Fund, a Scottish-registered charity, said: "A lot of those who settled in Britain have young families and new jobs. Everyone is very wary. Iron-clad assurances would be needed."


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KEYWORDS: africa; farmers; mugabe; plea; reject; return; starvation; white; whitefarmers; zimbabwe
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1 posted on 05/21/2005 5:56:39 PM PDT by blam
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To: Clive

Ping.


2 posted on 05/21/2005 5:57:24 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
Mugabe's in his late seventies, but even when he kicks off his successor will most likely be another looter picking over the bones. There's no guarantee, no safety, no future for skilled white farmers to return unless a miracle happens.
3 posted on 05/21/2005 6:01:45 PM PDT by xJones
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To: blam

the nyt today had a front page article on the demise of zimbabwe.

whatta laugh! not once did they mention directly the cause of the problems in zimbabwe.


4 posted on 05/21/2005 6:03:46 PM PDT by ken21 (if you didn't see it on tv, then it didn't happen. /s)
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To: ken21

'the nyt today had a front page article on the demise of zimbabwe.

whatta laugh! not once did they mention directly the cause of the problems in zimbabwe.'

What did you expect? Mugabe's one of their heroes.

-Regards, T.


5 posted on 05/21/2005 6:08:54 PM PDT by T Lady (G.W. Bush to Kerry & the MSM: "I've come to settle the Family Business.")
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To: blam
"Those who took over the farms had no specialist knowledge - and most farmland now lies uncultivated."

El Presidente Fox should send poor Mexicans to Zimbabwe. The white farmers were evicted or murdered, and those who took over were either too stupid or too lazy to work the farms.

6 posted on 05/21/2005 6:13:03 PM PDT by Enterprise (Coming soon from Newsweek: "Fallujah - we had to destroy it in order to save it.")
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To: blam

Send Mugabe some belts to hold up their pants.


7 posted on 05/21/2005 6:21:37 PM PDT by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN (NO PRISONERS!!)
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To: blam
Okay, Mugabe asked them nicely to return, and they refused.

What do you suppose will happen next, to any white farmer foolish enough to still be in Zimbabwe? I give even odds they will either be dead or slaves on their former farms for their new masters.

8 posted on 05/21/2005 6:21:37 PM PDT by ZOOKER (proudly killing threads since 1998)
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To: blam

All of this was foretold by Ayn Rand in the greatest novel of the 20th Century- Atlas Shrugged. These idiots in Zimbabwe are clearly looters NOT producers.


9 posted on 05/21/2005 6:24:29 PM PDT by Serious Capitalist
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To: blam
Gono:

"Come back! We didn't mean it! We were just having a little fun, that's all. That whole thing about sending in armed thugs to beat your family and steal your land, well, that was just a joke! What's the matter, can't you take it? Don't have a sense of humour? Why don't you white farmers want to come back? Are you racists?"

10 posted on 05/21/2005 6:26:02 PM PDT by brightstar (George W. Bush -- Founding Father Of Democracy In The Middle-East)
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To: xJones

mugabe really is a black hitler. you wont see it in the press and even when movies like the interpreter mention it but make mugabe white.


11 posted on 05/21/2005 6:26:04 PM PDT by minus_273
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To: blam
... Mr Gono, Mr Mugabe's leading economic policy maker, in a rambling three-hour statement...

These guys talk like Castro, too. Pity you can't feed your people on hot air.

The term "joint venture" in this makes my skin crawl. The formerly successful farmers bring knowledge and experience. What do Mugabe and his thugs bring to the table? And what is that likely to mean to the workers who used to be paid and who used to eat and who now enjoy neither? Great deal for them, huh? And before anyone says "but it's better than starving," consider that it might not be.

12 posted on 05/21/2005 6:26:11 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: blam
... recent parliamentary elections that were widely condemned as being rigged...

Was Jimmy Carter there?

13 posted on 05/21/2005 6:26:39 PM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: Squantos

not the article I mentioned, but same point.


14 posted on 05/21/2005 6:27:04 PM PDT by patton ("Fool," said my Muse to me, "look in thy heart, and write.")
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To: patton

gee I guess Mugabe burned a couple bridges with that kill whitey and take his land thing....huh?


15 posted on 05/21/2005 6:30:45 PM PDT by Casaubon (Internet Research Ninja Masta)
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To: patton

LOL....Mugabe will use em as brains for his own bucks and then use them as fertilizer when the duckets start rolling in........phucm !


16 posted on 05/21/2005 6:32:17 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: blam
He said: "In order to ensure maximum productivity levels, there is great scope in the country promoting and supporting joint ventures between the new farmers with progressive-minded former operators as well as other new investors, so as to hasten the skills transfer cycle."

These dips**ts can't even hide their ultimate goal. So what happens after the skill transfer??? The funny thing is that it probably wouldn't happen anyway.
17 posted on 05/21/2005 6:34:50 PM PDT by WHBates
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To: blam

They must think whitey is stupid as "merde". Well considering how the liberal media acts in this country, who can blame them?


18 posted on 05/21/2005 6:35:45 PM PDT by Eternal_Bear
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To: ZOOKER

Good post. These people were robbed, raped, and killed by these thugs... with no international condemnation and barely a mention in the US media. It's a one-way street my friends.


19 posted on 05/21/2005 6:39:59 PM PDT by CurlyBill (Democratic Party -- Wimps without ideas whose only issue is to oppose Republicans)
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To: Casaubon

yep.


20 posted on 05/21/2005 6:41:30 PM PDT by patton ("Fool," said my Muse to me, "look in thy heart, and write.")
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To: blam

The only white farmers left are the liberal whites that aided Mugbe to take over.. They deserve MORE than will get.. They deserve Zero commpassion..


21 posted on 05/21/2005 6:43:23 PM PDT by hosepipe (This Propaganda has been edited to include not a small amount of Hyperbole..)
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To: blam
"I would love to go back but the economy's in ruins. The place is a shambles. So many professional people have left. It would need a new regime before most of us would think seriously about going back."

No surprise here. The savage thugs take over the entire country and turn it into a cesspool.

22 posted on 05/21/2005 6:44:17 PM PDT by CurlyBill (Democratic Party -- Wimps without ideas whose only issue is to oppose Republicans)
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To: ZOOKER
"Okay, Mugabe asked them nicely to return, and they refused."

Oh now you've done it. You've done the MSM's work for them. The evil white farmers were politely asked to come back and they refused. Blacks will starve to death in Zimbabwe and the MSM will label the white farmers as greedy genocidal racists! And all because YOU pointed it out first! (smirk)

23 posted on 05/21/2005 6:44:47 PM PDT by Enterprise (Coming soon from Newsweek: "Fallujah - we had to destroy it in order to save it.")
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To: blam
Send them a boat load of loin cloths, spears and some cattle dung to put in their hair.

Then send them, Nelson Mandela, Koffi Anan and our "Black Caucus" to tell them all once again about bad it was to live with those whites and the evils of Apartheid.

The change was coming but the politicians from other countries had to meddle and have it overnight.

24 posted on 05/21/2005 6:47:26 PM PDT by mississippi red-neck
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To: Billthedrill
The formerly successful farmers bring knowledge and experience. What do Mugabe and his thugs bring to the table?

The incentive to work as a slave on their own land for the ones actually dumb enough to go back to Zimbabwe. As in rounding up their families and putting them in some gulag, and then telling the farmers "make this farm produce, or watch us rape and murder your wife and children."

25 posted on 05/21/2005 6:48:38 PM PDT by CFC__VRWC ("Anytime a liberal squeals in outrage, an angel gets its wings!" - gidget7)
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To: mississippi red-neck

White man seen the big cooking pots and said no thanks.


26 posted on 05/21/2005 6:49:46 PM PDT by noutopia (Home of the brave,not the spineless.)
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To: minus_273
mugabe really is a black hitler. you wont see it in the press

To the press and the UN, blacks are still an inferior human species, their plight not worthy of comment.

27 posted on 05/21/2005 6:50:28 PM PDT by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† || Iran Azadi || Newsweek lied, people died.)
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To: blam
The white farmers should make a deal--they will return if Mugabe and his hundred closest advisors form a circular firing squad and kill each other.
28 posted on 05/21/2005 6:51:16 PM PDT by cgbg (When do I wake up from this socialist nightmare?)
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To: blam
Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, I wind up dead..
29 posted on 05/21/2005 6:52:00 PM PDT by decal (Where were YOU when AndyScam broke?)
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To: blam

First, bring back Ian Smith.


30 posted on 05/21/2005 6:52:23 PM PDT by RWCon (P)
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To: Enterprise

Yes...these fools went in harvested the white mans crops had a large return. Then when it was their time to step up to the plate to grow crops they all miserably failed. They've also destroyed the land...w/out proper care for the land...the land will not bear any crop/fruit whatsoever. We white folks knew this was coming....how quickly it came.


31 posted on 05/21/2005 6:53:05 PM PDT by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: blam

I feel a rather sinful schadenfreude over this...


32 posted on 05/21/2005 6:53:13 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: blam
>> The only salvation will be a change of government and a return to the rule of law.


Salvation is the UN, they will bail them out with "unconditional" food aid, to be delivered directly to the Mugabe regime and sold throughout south and equatorial Africa via well worn black market routes.

The "problem" will then evaporate in the media, and the new "problem" will be famine in Zimbabwe in a few years.

So it goes.
33 posted on 05/21/2005 6:55:30 PM PDT by mmercier (the secular trend towards disorder, chaos and tyranny)
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To: blam
I expect the good ol' liberal U.S. to step in one of these days and flood the place with our taxpayer's money and food.

If left to it's own devices, Zimbabwe would become Matabeleland again, just like it was when ol' Cecil Rhodes found it in the 1890s, with about 500,000 subsistence-farming population instead of the 15,000,000 it has today.

34 posted on 05/21/2005 6:56:09 PM PDT by nightdriver
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To: Billthedrill
The term "joint venture" in this makes my skin crawl.

That's the term that got me too. "Joint venture"???? What in the hell is that????

Hey, whitebread! Get back here and fix our destruction and give us the credit. You owe us.

VOMITOCIOUS!!!

35 posted on 05/21/2005 6:58:21 PM PDT by bannie (The government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul.)
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To: blam
There is an even worse outcome from all this. I bet that liberals around the world will pony up donations when Zimbabwe starts to really hit the skids and famine start to stack up corpses like cordwood. And prolong the misery of what used to be the breadbasket of Africa.

They have fouled their own nest. The kindest thing the world can do for this nation gripped by the viral infection of collectivism is to not lift a finger to help, let the nation catastrophically collapse inward upon itself, and thoroughly document the ugly aftermath as a lesson for all future aspiring followers of tyrants that promise riches from looting.

36 posted on 05/21/2005 6:59:56 PM PDT by tyen
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To: blam

they are savages... not even animals to this to each other!!! WARNING it's not for a weak stomach...
http://www.africancrisis.org/photos8.asp


37 posted on 05/21/2005 7:00:47 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: mmercier

We can send Koffi over to run that place! THEN TAKE AWAY THE THIEF'S PASSPORT!!


38 posted on 05/21/2005 7:01:26 PM PDT by bannie (The government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul.)
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To: blam

If this was a script for a movie, we would guess it was a collaboration of Monty Python and Woody Allen. What's heartbreaking is that this stuff is actually happening.


39 posted on 05/21/2005 7:06:07 PM PDT by Rocky
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To: blam

A farmer that had his land stolen from the regime or its thugs would be insane to go back there, and risk thier lives again.


40 posted on 05/21/2005 7:07:29 PM PDT by ColdSteelTalon
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To: Enterprise
The white farmers were evicted or murdered, and those who took over were either too stupid or too lazy to work the farms.

And that's the facts, Jack.

41 posted on 05/21/2005 7:17:26 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: xJones
"Mugabe's in his late seventies"

Mugabe is 81.

42 posted on 05/21/2005 7:22:40 PM PDT by blam
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To: tyen
>> I bet that liberals around the world will pony up donations when Zimbabwe starts to really hit the skids and famine start to stack up corpses like cordwood. And prolong the misery of what used to be the breadbasket of Africa.

Close, but not quite. Liberals NEVER pony up their OWN money. They'll just lobby the government to make all of us pony up the money to keep Zimbabwe going, while the MSM will be broadcasting non stop images of the "poor victims of the terrible famine"

43 posted on 05/21/2005 7:32:56 PM PDT by vikingd00d (What does it profit a nation to win the world's approval if it should lose its soul?)
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To: Chode
Never confront the MSM with irrefutable facts proving the crimes of their self-created demigods. They will never ever say a kind word to you or about you afterwords.
44 posted on 05/21/2005 7:46:14 PM PDT by fella
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To: blam

Let. Zimbabwe. Starve.


45 posted on 05/21/2005 7:48:41 PM PDT by Wormwood (Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn!)
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To: blam
Dear Dr. Einstein,

Could you and other progressive-minded Jewish physicists please come back to Germany and work on join ventures with our new Aryan physicists to hasten the skills transfer cycle on your atomic fission projects.

Your friend, Adolf

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I the white Zimbabwean farmers are smart enough not to come back until Mugabe and his ilk are hanging by their ankles with piano wire in the center of Harare.

46 posted on 05/21/2005 7:54:33 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Relying on government for your retirement is like playing Russian roulette with an semi auto pistol.)
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To: blam

Let them starve.


47 posted on 05/21/2005 7:55:51 PM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: blam

re: your invitation to return
Dear Mr. Mugabe:
NUTS.
Sincerely,
The guy who used to feed your fat a55.


48 posted on 05/21/2005 7:59:57 PM PDT by hispanarepublicana (I was Lucy Ramirez when being Lucy Ramirez was't cool.)
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To: CurlyBill

When the UN comes begging for huge shipments of free food for the starving Zimbabs, what we ill we do? Oh, I know, we'll send the food, Mugabe will appropriate it and sell it, then deposit the money in his already huge Swiss bank accounts. We never learn.


49 posted on 05/21/2005 8:03:05 PM PDT by Paulus Invictus
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To: Iowa Granny; farmfriend

ping--I know people who've hired these evicted farmers in the U.S. Some fled at knifepoint with just the shirts on their backs.


50 posted on 05/21/2005 8:04:16 PM PDT by hispanarepublicana (I was Lucy Ramirez when being Lucy Ramirez was't cool.)
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