Skip to comments.Are illegals making U.S. a leper colony? (Leprosy in America)
Posted on 05/22/2005 2:19:16 PM PDT by wagglebee
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This is a frightening statistic.
Too bad the GOP is only interested in enlarging socialism and particularly 'free' healthcare. When foreigners read that the U.S. government has a $600 billion dollar prescription drug-giveaway the consequences should be obvious.
If you want more of something, subsidize it...
Illegal Immigration Ping.....
Keep the tip...
What do you call a leper in a bathtub?
Massachusetts has seen some leprosy coming from Brazil...
How does one respond to that?
Illegal aliens are the gift that just keeps on giving
Leprosy(Hansen's disease),chagras,(MDR)Multi-drug resitant tuberculosis,Hepatitis types A,B,C
The Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons report includes a strong prescription for protecting the health of Americans:
* Closing America's borders with fences, high-tech security devices and troops.
* Rescinding the U.S. citizenship of "anchor babies."
* Punishing the aiding and abetting of illegal aliens as a crime.
* An end to amnesty programs.
This is SO right. Too bad most of our politicians don't have a bit of common sense. JD Hayworth understands. Tom Tancredo understands.
By jumping into my Wayback Machine I could witness the immigrant health screenings at Ellis Island
Seal the Borders & stop illegals NOW!
This is yet another story you won't see posted at DU folks
Leprosy is not easily transmitted. Only about 5% of people who live in the same household as someone with leprosy contract the disease. And it takes a long time to develop -- usually 4-8 years. I suspect this increase in U.S. leprosy cases is largely confined to certain immigrant groups from countries where it is endemic (most of whom already had it when they got here, but just weren't symptomatic yet), and is at least partly due to increased diagnosis (read: more free medical care to illegal immigrants). Also, it's now completely curable. So don't panic!
Do you know if there is an ethnic/racial profile of susceptibility? Or is that such a politically incorrect question that researchers haven't been allowed to study it or publish study results?
"We've had even a couple of patients from Cuba who were put on a boat by Castro just to get them out of the country ? they made their way here through Mexico and Central America basically just to get treated. ..."
Wait a minute here...the Hollywood liberals have been telling us that Cuba has the best health care system in the world.
Now why would these lepers need to be shipped out of Cuba if liberals are telling us the truth?
The problem isn't so much with Leprosy as with a variety of other diseases brought in by illegals. California has been dealing with this problem since the mid 1980'S.
""There is no risk of an epidemic of leprosy," he told Columbia. "There's absolutely no risk that the few immigrants who are affected by the disease, if they are diagnosed and treated, will spread the disease in the U.S."
Great Line, if they are diagnosed and treated!!!!!
Does this jerk know that there are upwards of 20,000,000 Illegals have invaded this country and nobody knows where they are or how healthy they are..
Another great add to the Legacy of Jorge W. Bush and his do nothing Policy on the border..
I have voted republican an all my life, Never Again!!!
I don't think there is much ethnic difference here. It is more likely to occur in crowded (generally poor) communities where many infections spread better and in which it had already been present. I think of India, Nigeria, Brazil and SE Asia as the main remaining trouble spots. Central America has some, but not as much as the those. Medieval Europe had a lot of it so Caucasians certainly were susceptible then. I wouldn't expect much resistance to evolve since then to such a slow killer, unless it was as a side benefit to bubonic plague resistance. Historically some long isolated populations (e.g. Hawaii) were less resistant. There actually has been quite a bit of research on how the immune system handles or fails to handle leprosy, but I'm not up to speed on it. I think the 3% susceptible figure came from epidemiological models of its spread.
My father used to sing us this song when we were kids. He's so tone deaf that I have no idea what the tune really is, but the words go like this:
Omigosh I got leprosy!
There goes my eyeball,
right into my highball.
There goes my left leg,
it rolled under the beer keg"
Needless to say we had a peculiar childhood :lol:, this is one of the less weird songs he sang.
Not a bad idea, though.
This is what all them mohow's snackin on armadillo road kill enroute to el norte are bringing with em.....
All of the third world countries shipping their people here have the best health care system in the world: The United States of America. Another reason to come here (and to mooch off of us and get all kinds of freebies and then complain about us).
No it wouldn't. The 14th states:
"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."
This does not apply to foreign nationals, whether in this country legally or illegally. As Jacob Howard, coauthor of the citizenship clause of the 14th amendment stated in 1866:
"Every Person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons."
The citizenship clause was thus clearly meant to prevent emancipated slaves from being denied citizenship, not to provide an end run around our immigration policies.
What percentage of the United States immigrant population enters the country illegally?
I have no idea. Why?
Ok,I get to do it this thread!
Just spreading diseases that Americans are too lazy to spread!!
"Leprosy is not easily transmitted. Only about 5% of people who live in the same household as someone with leprosy contract the disease. And it takes a long time to develop -- usually 4-8 years. I suspect this increase in U.S. leprosy cases is largely confined to certain immigrant groups from countries where it is endemic (most of whom already had it when they got here, but just weren't symptomatic yet), and is at least partly due to increased diagnosis (read: more free medical care to illegal immigrants). Also, it's now completely curable. So don't panic!"
Agreed. This article is sensationalist and misleading. I'm more concerned about the piece of baked armadillo I ate as a kid (my dad's curiosity got the best of him) than an epidemic caused by immigrants. Anyway, Hansen's desease is easily curable now, though if untreated for a long time can lead to ghastly results.
LOL. Yes, we've lost the initiative.
I think the point is that if leprosy is coming back, so are a lot of other goodies we have kept supressed.
That probably is the point, but it's poorly made because the author would rather rely on overblowing the risks from an easily treatable, low-threat disease sure to evoke panic and emotion (the horrific biblical scourge of leprosy) than to cite real evidence supporting his claim. (I might suspect that his real claim is that immigration is bad, based on the shabbiness of this article.)
I just thought you might have an idea of the figures. I found the estimate somewhere else.
Though I don't care much for the tone or specifics of this article, something like TB is more compelling as a problem, and I don't discount it. TB screening should be part of the immigration process, in my opinion.
Why don't they just send the lepers to the leper colony in Hawaii?
And I was in a good mood today. GWB and the GOP should both go jump off a bridge for refusing to take care of this mess. They are not only refusing to fix this disaster, but are making excuses for it and making it worse.
Funny. I got the idea from the author that unchecked immigration by illegals has consequences that were under control at one time. Now, however, due to the lack of leadership and the pervasive pandering by politicians we are now seeing those consequences come to fruition. That's just me though. It seems as though you think illegal immigrants don't really cause these problems and that the author just doesn't like immigrants.
On a recent FR discussion I read that the anchor baby status thing arose from law to keep southern states from disenfranchising recently freed slaves as voters
There can be problems with uncontrolled immigration in terms of security, fairness, and public health. Instead of a thought ful, fair analysis of some of these issues, this guy comes out with this emotional (from the very subject matter) and misleading article that exaggerates a threat (leprosy) that hardly exists. Because his journalism is so bad, I also suspect his motives...
What, exactly, is wrong with the journalistic presentation of this information? I don't see the bias you claim to exist. Please cite some examples for me.
"It's creeping into the U.S.," Dr. William Levis, head of the New York Hansen's Disease Clinic, told Columbia News Service. "This is a real phenomenon. It's a public health threat. New York is endemic now, and nobody's noticed."
Levis thinks America could be on the verge of an epidemic.
"We just don't know when these epidemics are going to occur," he said. "But we're on the cusp of it here, because we're starting to see endemic cases that we didn't see 25 years ago."
I don't believe we're on the cusp of a leprosy epidemic in the U.S. It's total B.S. and it's easy to figure that out with about 5 minutes worth of searching on the internet. But that doesn't frighten the masses.
(7)U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark 169 US649(1898)
(8) ibid at 682.
Anchor babies are a free ride to welfare heaven for their parents and siblings.
We probably should add something like "born to parent or parents legally residing in the United States or territories".
You present a quote from a source and then blame the author of the article? I don't get it. Where is the shoddy journalism? It would seem to me that someone who deals with it every day (he spoke about New York) would know.
Because it's true! Especially for TB.
I think he selectively chose sources and mixed quotes to imply that we are on the verge of a leprosy epidemic in the U.S. I also think the article implies that the general population is at risk. I call B.S. The disease is hardly contagious and easily treatable. I simply don't see the threat. At best, it's a misleading article. At worst, it's an intentionally misleading article.
Did you miss this quote?"Dr. Denis Daumerie, head of the World Health Organization's leprosy-elimination program, thinks claims of immigrants causing a spike in U.S. leprosy are overstated.
"There is no risk of an epidemic of leprosy," he told Columbia. "There's absolutely no risk that the few immigrants who are affected by the disease, if they are diagnosed and treated, will spread the disease in the U.S."
It would seem you are the one with the biased interpretations.
By the way I was doing a google search and found many sources that back up the claim that illegals are bringing a myriad of diseases back, as well as new ones to the U.S.