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White Afrikaner Independence: Interview With Freedom Front General-Secretary Col. Piet Uys
Global Politician ^ | 5/23/2005 | David Storobin

Posted on 05/23/2005 4:00:17 PM PDT by freeper1995

Q: What is FF+ doing currently to achieve independence or autonomy for Afrikaners?

A: Firstly, we are building the party in terms of organisation and members. The party is slowly becoming the only party in the country, and the world, who speaks on behalf of all the Afrikaners in the world. Our experience has shown that the present government reacts to pressure, and only the strong can exert pressure. We, therefore, participate in every municipal election where we have support, to enable our supporters to cast their votes in our favour. We have seen a steady indicator of growing support.

Secondly, we propagate minority rights and self-determination for all cultural groups as a prerequisite for a prosperous and happy country. This we do, not only for the Afrikaner people, but for al those other ethnic and cultural groups in the country who are starting to feel marginalised or threatened by the majority in the country.

We claim all the rights provided for in the United Nation's 1992 Declaration of the Rights of Minorities.

During the negotiation phase between the previous government and the ANC, in 1992/93, the Afrikaner people managed to arrange an Accord amongst the ANC, the National Party (then the governing party), and the Freedom Front. It was signed on 23 April 1993, and it still stands! This Accord, amongst others, makes provision for a territorial component in the self-determination we seek.

Following this Accord, the party will soon commence talks with the Thabo Mbeki administration, in order to remind them of the contents of the Accord, and that we want the governments answers on these issues.

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FF+ is well respected because we honestly state our case. Many do not agree with us, but still respect us because they know where they stand with us.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: afrikaner; aids; boer; mandela; mbeki; ozone; southafrica

1 posted on 05/23/2005 4:00:19 PM PDT by freeper1995
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To: freeper1995

Seperatism may be the only solution to SA - White minority rule did not work for the Black majority, and Black majority rule isn't working for the White minority.


2 posted on 05/23/2005 4:07:50 PM PDT by Irish_Thatcherite (Orwellian Relativism: All philosophies are equal, but some philosophies are more equal than others.)
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To: Irish_Thatcherite

True.


3 posted on 05/23/2005 4:27:59 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: Irish_Thatcherite
Yeah, they need, what's that word, apartheid.
4 posted on 05/23/2005 5:43:43 PM PDT by MRMEAN ("On the Internet nobody knows that you're a dog")
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To: MRMEAN
Yeah, it really worked when whites ran South Africa. How do they think it can work now?

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
5 posted on 05/23/2005 7:35:06 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: MRMEAN; Ironfocus

It's not the same concept. I do think that SA needs a lot less foreign meddling though.


6 posted on 05/23/2005 8:35:33 PM PDT by cyborg (Serving fresh, hot Anti-opus since 18 April 2005)
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To: cyborg

It's a noble concept, that of self-rule for every cultural group in the country. Alas, I don't see any practical solution to this. There is no area of the country that self-rule can happen for the Afrikaners, or any other group, for that matter.


7 posted on 05/23/2005 8:53:07 PM PDT by Ironfocus (Love, faith, honor, integrity, duty......)
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To: Ironfocus; everyone

I am curious if people would support independence for Afrikaners/whites in part of South Africa.

There is a plan to build an Afrikaner state in about 3-4% of the country where whites are a majority.

Would you support that?


8 posted on 05/23/2005 9:05:51 PM PDT by freeper1995
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To: Ironfocus

Whatever solution there would be, it should not involve the likes of the UN that's for sure.


9 posted on 05/23/2005 9:10:40 PM PDT by cyborg (Serving fresh, hot Anti-opus since 18 April 2005)
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To: freeper1995

Conceptually, yes, I would support that. The Afrikaner has a long history in Africa, well over 350 years, and is entitled to a place in Africa they can call their own.

Practically, though, I struggle to see the feasibility of such a plan. Not all Afrikaners would move there, in fact, I think it will result in another Orania, with only a few people botherin to leave their jobs and homes to move to a new ideology. I also don't see the ANC government giving up any part of the country for such an undertaking. There is no economic feasibility either, since the part where this is likely is sure to be in the most dry and barren parts of the Northern Cape, where there is little chance of industry or agriculture.

I would much rather see the end of affirmative action and related laws, zero tolerance on crime, the right to mother language education, clampdown on rampant illegal immigration, the right to bear arms, true freedom of speech and acceptance of criticism by the current government.


10 posted on 05/23/2005 9:18:04 PM PDT by Ironfocus (Love, faith, honor, integrity, duty......)
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To: Ironfocus

How about a real police force instead of the bare bones skeleton crew they have now? Crime is so rampant because the criminals know there are no police to get them. The Guardian Angels leader said on the radio that in Cape Town aka "Rape Town" that there are only 700 policemen to patrol the entire city. That makes no sense. I would support an independent area for Afrikaners since they didn't turn coward and run like the English but not gonna happen in this lifetime.


11 posted on 05/23/2005 9:21:23 PM PDT by cyborg (Serving fresh, hot Anti-opus since 18 April 2005)
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To: cyborg

Yes, they will call in the help of the UN Human Rights Commission, you know, the one with Zimbabwe in the membership. South Africa sure can learn a lot from their northernly neighbours on how to deal with those pesky minorities.


12 posted on 05/23/2005 9:22:04 PM PDT by Ironfocus (Love, faith, honor, integrity, duty......)
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To: Ironfocus

That's like putting the fox in charge of the henhouse.


13 posted on 05/23/2005 9:23:02 PM PDT by cyborg (Serving fresh, hot Anti-opus since 18 April 2005)
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To: cyborg

I lived in a town of 250,000 households, and we had 5 police vehicles to patrol the entire area. At any given time, 2 were operational. Criminals know that the chances of them ever being caught, found guilty and punished is less than 1%.


14 posted on 05/23/2005 9:24:52 PM PDT by Ironfocus (Love, faith, honor, integrity, duty......)
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To: Ironfocus

The good thing is that the Guardian Angels are starting chapters in Cape Town, mostly to protect women on the streets. I could not believe my ears when he said there aren't any lights on at night in the townships :(


15 posted on 05/23/2005 9:29:36 PM PDT by cyborg (Serving fresh, hot Anti-opus since 18 April 2005)
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To: cyborg

I don't know about Cape Town's townships, but Soweto is one of the most well-lit cities in South Africa.

I hope the Guardian Angels can get the job done.


16 posted on 05/23/2005 9:31:48 PM PDT by Ironfocus (Love, faith, honor, integrity, duty......)
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To: Ironfocus

He was remarking that some areas had no lights and all you could see were the cellphones *lol*


17 posted on 05/23/2005 9:32:38 PM PDT by cyborg (Serving fresh, hot Anti-opus since 18 April 2005)
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To: Ironfocus

Groups like it are going to get real popular. Once people see the results of taking matters into their own hands, they won't want the pap that the government is serving.


18 posted on 05/23/2005 9:34:03 PM PDT by cyborg (Serving fresh, hot Anti-opus since 18 April 2005)
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To: cyborg

There is a similar group, called Mapoga a Mathamaga. http://www.mapogo.co.za/

They deal with criminals in the traditional way....


19 posted on 05/23/2005 9:41:29 PM PDT by Ironfocus (Love, faith, honor, integrity, duty......)
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To: Ironfocus

http://www.guardianangels.org/blog/


20 posted on 05/23/2005 9:43:08 PM PDT by cyborg (Serving fresh, hot Anti-opus since 18 April 2005)
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