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7 Republicans abandon GOP on filibuster
Washington Times ^ | Tuesday, May 24, 2005 | By Charles Hurt

Posted on 05/24/2005 12:52:08 AM PDT by JohnHuang2

THE WASHINGTON TIMES

Seven Senate Republicans bolted from their leaders last night and dropped their support for the "nuclear option" in exchange for seven Democrats' abandoning filibusters against three of President Bush's judicial nominees. "This is really good news for every American tonight," Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid, Nevada Democrat, said moments after the deal was announced last night on live television. "This is a significant victory." The seven Republican signers were Sens. Mike DeWine of Ohio, Susan Collins of Maine, Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, Lincoln Chaffee of Rhode Island, John McCain of Arizona, John W. Warner of Virginia and Olympia J. Snowe of Maine. Click to Visit The seven Democratic signers were Sens. Ben Nelson of Nebraska, Joe Lieberman of Connecticut, Mark Pryor of Arkansas, Robert C. Byrd of West Virginia, Mary L. Landrieu of Louisiana, Ken Salazar of Colorado and Daniel K. Inouye of Hawaii. The deal didn't satisfy Majority Leader Bill Frist, who has maintained that the Constitution requires up-or-down votes on all judicial nominees. "The agreement announced tonight falls short of that principle," the Tennessee Republican said on the Senate floor. "It falls short. It has some good news, and it has some disappointing news."

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1 posted on 05/24/2005 12:52:08 AM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2
RINOs couldn't stand backing their party on a matter of importance. If the party had its cojones it ought to return the favor in kind by withdrawing its financial backing for RINOs re-election bids and sanctioning favored home-state projects. You desert the party, don't expect rewards for betraying it.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
2 posted on 05/24/2005 12:56:52 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: JohnHuang2

An honest header.


3 posted on 05/24/2005 12:58:22 AM PDT by wardaddy
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To: JohnHuang2

I hope all 7 go-down-in-flames. No support...no money...NO VOTES!


4 posted on 05/24/2005 12:59:11 AM PDT by CaptSkip
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To: JohnHuang2
The seven Republican signers were Sens. Mike DeWine of Ohio, Susan Collins of Maine, Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, Lincoln Chaffee of Rhode Island, John McCain of Arizona, John W. Warner of Virginia and Olympia J. Snowe of Maine

Boy howdy....several of those names tell it all. I would not even need to know the legislation to know it's probably not good.

5 posted on 05/24/2005 1:01:20 AM PDT by wardaddy
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To: goldstategop
That's what everyone wanted to do to Specter but Santorum talked them into letting him slide. Now we are stuck with the both of them. At least until the next election.
6 posted on 05/24/2005 1:07:13 AM PDT by fish hawk (I am only one, but I am not the only one.)
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To: JohnHuang2

The Senate stinks.

It will be interesting to watch them filibuster Bush's Supreme Court nominees.
Republican's will gain seats in the Senate and the money will flow into GOP election coffers to break the power of moderates.


7 posted on 05/24/2005 1:11:19 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: JohnHuang2
And seven Republicans will get abandoned by the base....

NOT ONE PENNY!!!

I'm angry enough to pledge money to real conservatives who will run against these RINO's and replace them. How about $100.00 a head?

I encourage everyone to attack!


8 posted on 05/24/2005 1:11:31 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die)
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To: JohnHuang2

Sent my e-mail,has anyone else?


9 posted on 05/24/2005 1:25:03 AM PDT by noutopia (Home of the brave,not the spineless.)
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To: Yosemitest

***....."Judges are going to get a vote that wouldn't have gotten a vote otherwise. We're going to start talking about who would be a good judge and who wouldn't. And the White House is going to get more involved and they are going to listen to us more," said Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., one of the bargainers....***

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20050524/D8A99NOG0.html


10 posted on 05/24/2005 1:25:48 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
We got seven back stabbers in our own party, that are against every one of them getting a vote. How disgusting!

It's like the democrats, "we only count the votes we want." Or do they believe that they know better than all the Senators. These traitors can NOT be tolerated!!!!

11 posted on 05/24/2005 1:29:14 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die)
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To: goldstategop

***.....In classic Senate style, the agreement was followed by a rush of self-congratulatory speeches - and disagreement over what it meant.

Democrats, pointing to a slight change in wording from an earlier draft, said the deal would preclude Republicans from attempting to deny them the right to filibuster. Republicans said that was not ironclad, but valid only as long as Democrats did not go back on their word to filibuster only in extraordinary circumstances.

One official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the issue had been discussed at the meeting in McCain's office, and was "clearly understood" by those in attendance.....***

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20050524/D8A99NOG0.html


This was written with disappearing ink.



12 posted on 05/24/2005 1:30:03 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Republican's will gain seats in the Senate and the money will flow into GOP election coffers to break the power of moderates.

You must not have heard the anger and the depression last night.

Nobody's giving the republicans JACK.

They can't manage what they've gotten already.

13 posted on 05/24/2005 1:35:09 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Republican no more.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Like a Cheshire Cat. Then again, what can you expect from squishy moderates? A squishy agreement non-agreement that settles nothing. I'd be surprised if the "deal" lasts beyond the nominees coming up for a vote. We will know then if its a surrender to the Democrats. If that's the case, the GOP can kiss its Senate majority good-bye in '06. We need friends like these like we need enemies...

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
14 posted on 05/24/2005 1:36:41 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Yosemitest

Write off Rhode Island and Maine. No Non-RINO could get elected there. Money on their opponents would be wasted. Just shut them out of all meetings and committees so they will join the Democratic Party where they belong and stop SPYING on us.

And don't forget the CRYPTO-Democrat-Mole-Spies, like Spectre, who didn't sign but is right there in spirit.

Let's throw them all out of the party right now so that winning back the Senate will be an issue in 2006!


15 posted on 05/24/2005 1:37:49 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth...)
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To: Lazamataz
Why not just send your money to Howard Dean?

Politics needs strategy, not tragedy.

You don't give moderates more power, you take them out!
16 posted on 05/24/2005 1:37:50 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Lazamataz
Yep. They have 55 seats and they couldn't even do the principled thing. The Senate Republicans pine to be back in the minority. By all means then, let's grant them their wish next year...

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
17 posted on 05/24/2005 1:38:26 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Why not just send your money to Howard Dean?

Because sending money to Howard Dean accelerates the *exact* same process by 4%, as when I send it to Republicans.

18 posted on 05/24/2005 1:39:47 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Republican no more.)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

I agree with you about Spectre and I look forward to voting against that piece of trash. And unless I can move back down south soon, I WILL do it.


19 posted on 05/24/2005 1:40:54 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die)
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To: goldstategop
***....I'd be surprised if the "deal" lasts beyond the nominees coming up for a vote. We will know then if its a surrender to the Democrats....***

Exactly! Moderates were going to lose their vaunted position without something and now, from McCain's office on the mount, they've offered up, what? Nothing. They're already fighting over what it means.

20 posted on 05/24/2005 1:41:03 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Lazamataz

Cool off.


21 posted on 05/24/2005 1:41:22 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: JohnHuang2

There would be 7 Republicans that should be worked against by their party for removal next election.


22 posted on 05/24/2005 1:42:41 AM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Lazamataz; goldstategop

You're both being absurd.

Yeah, so there's 7 RINO's... and 48 Senators we can count on. But you want to ditch the 48 because the 7 have sucked. Brilliant.

2 more solid seats in 2006, and we don't even have to worry about RINO's anymore.

When we're -that- close, you want to bail.

I gave you both more credit than that.

Qwinn


23 posted on 05/24/2005 1:42:49 AM PDT by Qwinn
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To: Qwinn
You want us to support them when they didn't support us? Heck, hell no! We're going to vigorously support their challengers in party primaries and barring that, we'll sit on our hands in November and watch them lose to Democrats. When you double-cross your own party, expect to pay a price. They can celebrate their "deal" while it lasts.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
24 posted on 05/24/2005 1:46:07 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

If you want to go all out opposing the RINO's responsible tonight, particularly the ones in red states, be my guest. Hell, I'm with you 100% in that regard.

It's the "Screw the whole Republican party" rants that I find absurd. And those seem to be the majority around here tonight.

Qwinn


25 posted on 05/24/2005 1:48:00 AM PDT by Qwinn
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To: JohnHuang2

Well, I am disappointed, somewhat, but think what would have happened if Frist pushed the rule change vote and lost! 2000 term all over again.

I'm going to wait and see (anybody have any other choice?) how things go before I decide to get really upset.

And the Dems can start abusing the system again, and we'll be right back at the anti-fil vote.

In one sense, Harry Reid has eaten it again, since the first three appointees were those he said would never get past Dem opposition, same as last term. 8-) *big grin*

The fight's still on, just delayed a little, and we got some good concessions with these judges getting to a vote.

Lindsay Graham was one of my favorites (back in Clinton impeachment times). I wish he hadn't been a part of the "soft" group. Warner is a sage old man, and I like him too, so maybe the group isn't too much wrong.

I was worried about Specter. Remember that he made a promise he wouldn't participate in blocking Repub judicial appointees in return for maintaining his chairmanship of the Judiciary Committee. I had been concerned that he might decide that voting with the Dems on the filibuster issue was not part of that deal.

I wanted complete control for the Repubs. Full speed ahead! Not yet, folks, not YET! ;-)


26 posted on 05/24/2005 1:51:43 AM PDT by Randy Papadoo (Not going so good? Just kick somebody's a$$. You'll feel a lot better!)
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To: Qwinn
I'm not saying screw the entire party. Its not too much to ask the RINOs to stand behind something conservatives want. They're the ones who ask us to understand when they need to go "off the reservation" on some votes and we put up with it because we understand their political problems. But they don't seem to understand they owe loyalty to their party on a matter of principle. If they can't support it, they should become Democrats. Its at least being fair to the rest of us who've worked hard for Republican Party candidates to advance the conservative agenda.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
27 posted on 05/24/2005 1:53:51 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Randi Papadoo

Ooh! It's actually six judges. Broke my face smiling!


28 posted on 05/24/2005 1:56:09 AM PDT by Randy Papadoo (Not going so good? Just kick somebody's a$$. You'll feel a lot better!)
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To: JohnHuang2
WIN BACK A CONSERVATIVE
REPUBLICAN SENATE IN 2006!

29 posted on 05/24/2005 2:16:14 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth...)
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To: goldstategop

Believe me they got their payoffs form the demons of the dem party. They must make their puppet master leader, George Soros just swell with pride.


30 posted on 05/24/2005 2:33:29 AM PDT by Bullish
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To: Yosemitest

These Rinos' have sold their souls!

Thanks for posting their filthy mug shots.


31 posted on 05/24/2005 2:35:49 AM PDT by Bullish
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To: JohnHuang2
Senator Frist ... resign NOW!
32 posted on 05/24/2005 2:44:54 AM PDT by jamaksin
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To: JohnHuang2
My e-mail to Jawhn Wahner:

I am FURIOUS that you and 6 other so-called Republican senators have crossed over to support this so-called "compromise" on the Judicial nominees!!! I have supported you in the past with my money and my vote, but no longer. I will be actively working against you in any future elections. I am starting to believe that the Republican party no longer wants my conservative vote.

I have been a rock-ribbed Republican since 1980, but I feel like I don't have a home there anymore. Just damn!
33 posted on 05/24/2005 2:52:35 AM PDT by GodBlessRonaldReagan (Count Petofi will not be denied!)
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To: Qwinn; Lazamataz; goldstategop
We have a reason and a right to be Po'd. Come on, we're all pretty frustrated over this. Let's not start after each other though. I just witnessed another thread where age-old FReepers were tearing at each other. No, we can't all "just get along", but we need to remain clear that we are on the same side.

EXCEPT FOR THE STINKING RINOS!!!

There, I feel better now...

34 posted on 05/24/2005 3:04:03 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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The talk in my circles (Maine) is that Snowe will NOT be re-elected. Most Republicans will support a primary bid against her, or just not vote for her. We might as well have a dim in the Senate.


35 posted on 05/24/2005 3:13:12 AM PDT by Rocket1968 (Free Janice Rogers-Brown)
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To: JohnHuang2

Now tell me Ms. Hillary STILL is putting those FBI files to GOOD use!!!!!!!!!!


36 posted on 05/24/2005 3:15:21 AM PDT by mo
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To: JohnHuang2
These people are not Republicans. No money from donations to the party should be given to these turncoats who have gone to the dark side. As you will notice the only people who say this is great is the demo RATS.
37 posted on 05/24/2005 4:08:19 AM PDT by YOUGOTIT
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To: Yosemitest

I will contribute. We should work in each state to defeat these democrats.


38 posted on 05/24/2005 4:10:11 AM PDT by YOUGOTIT
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To: Yosemitest

contact list bump.

even when we win, we lose. I am so POd I can't see straight.


39 posted on 05/24/2005 4:15:22 AM PDT by the crow (I'm from the government. I'm here to help.)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
"WIN BACK A CONSERVATIVEREPUBLICAN SENATE IN 2006!"

What a pipe dream.

Most evangelicals will stay home in 2006 because of this. The democrats will gain the majority.

This really what the McCain seven want. Most of them are pro-choice and will sacrifice the majority if it means gaining ideological control of the GOP.

Bet on it.
40 posted on 05/24/2005 4:16:58 AM PDT by Preachin' (Keep the Kerry/Edwards tags on your cars so we can identify the root of your disease.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
This was written with disappearing ink.

Constitutional Nuclear Byrd Exploding Ink.

41 posted on 05/24/2005 4:20:14 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: GodBlessRonaldReagan
"I am starting to believe that the Republican party no longer wants my conservative vote.

I have been a rock-ribbed Republican since 1980, but I feel like I don't have a home there anymore."

That's also when I became a republican. I'm from Georgia and supported Reagan over Carter.

I did not leave the GOP. They left me.

We can blame the RINOs, but where was the GOP leadership?
42 posted on 05/24/2005 4:20:30 AM PDT by Preachin' (Keep the Kerry/Edwards tags on your cars so we can identify the root of your disease.)
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To: Cboldt

This will turn out to be a good thing..I'll ping you later..


43 posted on 05/24/2005 4:21:07 AM PDT by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to pass on her gene pool....any volunteers?)
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To: goldstategop

"RINOs couldn't stand backing their party on a matter of importance. If the party had its cojones it ought to return the favor in kind by withdrawing its financial backing for RINOs re-election bids and sanctioning favored home-state projects. You desert the party, don't expect rewards for betraying it. "

Bye Bye bases.


44 posted on 05/24/2005 4:21:31 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Liberal Talking Point - Bush = Hitler ... Republican Talking Point - Let the Liberals Talk)
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To: CaptSkip

I agree. I think the only election in which I ever failed to vote was one in which John Warner was running for re-election. I just couldn't stand to vote for him, and wouldn't vote for his opponent, so I didn't vote. It really bothered me not to vote, but these RINOs give you no choice. I just wish the Republicans would learn their lesson, but they never do. They didn't learn from Jeffords, they didn't learn from Specter... I am hoping maybe George Allen can change that course of action as the point man on GOP Senate elections (I forget the actual title of that position). And not to be petty, but to me one of the worst parts of this compromise is having to see John McCain on the news.... I am disgusted but trying very hard to see a silver lining in this cloud.


45 posted on 05/24/2005 4:23:41 AM PDT by GraceCoolidge
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To: Lazamataz
You must not have heard the anger and the depression last night.
Nobody's giving the republicans JACK.

Most of the anger and depression comes from the letdown. We all showed up for a fight, but the fighters kissed and made up before fight time. That was always a possibility, we just didn't know what form it would take.

I haven't given to the Republicans in ages. I do give to individual candidates (not RINOs) and advocay groups, e.g. Swift Boat Veterans for Truth.

Be patient. The DEMs can't resist being naughty. The obstructionist tactic of refusing to vote on a nominee is bound to come up again. If the GOP leadership looks the other way the next time, then we'll know the part of the Constitution that deals with nominees has been betrayed by the GOP.

46 posted on 05/24/2005 4:24:21 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: JohnHuang2

No anount of ice can cover the stink on this.


47 posted on 05/24/2005 4:26:33 AM PDT by johnny7 (Ever wonder what's the 'crust' in 'Ol Crusty'?)
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To: Cboldt
If the GOP leadership looks the other way the next time, then we'll know the part of the Constitution that deals with nominees has been betrayed by the GOP.

Look.

It's a given, at this point.

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

Fool me 12,492,583 times, I am a Republican.

48 posted on 05/24/2005 4:27:09 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Republican no more.)
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To: JohnHuang2

bttt


49 posted on 05/24/2005 4:27:55 AM PDT by Guenevere
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To: Rocket1968
The talk in my circles (Maine) is that Snowe will NOT be re-elected. Most Republicans will support a primary bid against her, or just not vote for her.

The Maine GOP apparatus is not interested in conservatives. I tried approaching them many times, and they have a tin ear. I understand Snowe got a rather large "no vote" last election. I was one of them. The only way I'd vote for her or Collins if if the moonbat DEM is within spitting distance of winning.

50 posted on 05/24/2005 4:28:15 AM PDT by Cboldt
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