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Boston Globe: The caveat emperor (Kerry Signs Form 180)
Boston Globe ^
| 5/24/05
| Joan Vennochi
Posted on 05/24/2005 4:21:44 AM PDT by Air Conditioned Gypsy
The caveat emperor
By Joan Vennochi, Globe Columnist
May 24, 2005
During an interview yesterday with Globe editorial writers and columnists, the former Democratic presidential nominee was asked if had signed Form SF 180, authorizing the Department of Defense to grant access to all his military records.
''I have signed it," Kerry said. Then, he added that his staff was ''still going through it" and ''very, very shortly, you will have a chance to see it." ........
After the interview, Kerry's communications director, David Wade, was asked to clarify when Kerry signed SF 180 and when public access would be granted. Kerry drifted over to join the conversation, immediately raising the confusion level. He did not answer the question of when he signed the form or when the entire record will be made public.
Several e-mails later, Wade conveyed the following information: On Friday, May 20, Kerry obtained a copy of Form 180 and signed it. ''The next step is to send it to the Navy, which will happen in the next few days. The Navy will then send out the records," e-mailed Wade......
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TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cary; form180; kerry; lurch; militaryrecord
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I will believe it when I see it.
To: Air Conditioned Gypsy
2
posted on
05/24/2005 4:23:53 AM PDT
by
billorites
(freepo ergo sum)
To: Air Conditioned Gypsy
He signed it before he didn't sign it.
3
posted on
05/24/2005 4:24:02 AM PDT
by
GOP_Proud
(...stumbling across Bill Bennett on the radio is like bumping into Socrates at Starbucks.-K.Parker)
To: Air Conditioned Gypsy
Yet another John F'n Kerry F'n middle F'n position.
I signed the Form 180. I just haven't turned it in. Now for the next year, he'll go on about how he signed the form, and just confuse the issue.
Allow me to be the first.... WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO TURN IT IN, SENATOR KERRY!
We should all start faxing him the address of the Navy, or sending pre-addressed and pre-paid envelopes in the mail...
4
posted on
05/24/2005 4:26:08 AM PDT
by
gridlock
(ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
To: Air Conditioned Gypsy
Kerry drifted over to join the conversation, immediately raising the confusion level.
5
posted on
05/24/2005 4:27:05 AM PDT
by
kcvl
To: Air Conditioned Gypsy
''I have signed it," Kerry said. Then, he added that his staff was ''still going through it"...Well, now we know what Sandy Berger's been uo to...
6
posted on
05/24/2005 4:27:49 AM PDT
by
mewzilla
To: Air Conditioned Gypsy
Kerry said that people don't want to ''go back to coat hangers and back alleys," or put ''moms in jail and doctors."
There never has been an abortion with a coat hanger, and Kerry never signed Form 180.
7
posted on
05/24/2005 4:28:13 AM PDT
by
GarySpFc
(Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
To: Air Conditioned Gypsy
8
posted on
05/24/2005 4:28:55 AM PDT
by
Zacs Mom
(Proud wife of a Marine! ... and purveyor of "rampant, unedited dialogue")
To: billorites
rotfl ... two great minds
9
posted on
05/24/2005 4:29:40 AM PDT
by
Zacs Mom
(Proud wife of a Marine! ... and purveyor of "rampant, unedited dialogue")
To: Zacs Mom; billorites
10
posted on
05/24/2005 4:30:11 AM PDT
by
mewzilla
To: Air Conditioned Gypsy
I won't believe any of it anyway. Too much time has passed.
11
posted on
05/24/2005 4:31:56 AM PDT
by
cats2dogs
( Where in the world is John Galt?)
To: gridlock
"Allow me to be the first.... WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO TURN IT IN, SENATOR KERRY!"
oh, that may never happen but atleast he can say he "signed it".
12
posted on
05/24/2005 4:33:27 AM PDT
by
nmh
(Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
To: mewzilla
Maybe the signed form is in Sandy Berger's pants?
You know, he's so "absent minded". Don't you ever stuff forms in your pants? ;)
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posted on
05/24/2005 4:34:46 AM PDT
by
nmh
(Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
To: Air Conditioned Gypsy
If this actually happens, would you ping me?
Jake
To: nmh
You know, he's so "absent minded". Don't you ever stuff forms in your pants? ;)LOL! Gee, I wonder what there was for Jean Francois's staff to go through, though...
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posted on
05/24/2005 4:39:27 AM PDT
by
mewzilla
To: Air Conditioned Gypsy
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posted on
05/24/2005 4:40:50 AM PDT
by
Petronski
(A champion of dance, my moves will put you in a trance, and I never leave the disco alone.)
To: Air Conditioned Gypsy
The important take-away from this article is that it was written by that shrieking leftist harpie Joan Venocchi.
That tells you right there that Kerry has lost whatever base he had, and has ZERO chance of winning the rat nomination.
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posted on
05/24/2005 4:41:22 AM PDT
by
Maceman
(uent)
To: mewzilla
Of course, they will have to 'sanitize' the released records. I doubt that the original DD214 will ever see the light of day.
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posted on
05/24/2005 4:41:49 AM PDT
by
Stashiu
(RVN, 1969-70)
To: Air Conditioned Gypsy
Then, he added that his staff was ''still going through it" and ''very, very shortly, you will have a chance to see it."
To: Air Conditioned Gypsy
Good to know that you can run for President and don't have to release your military records... as long as you have a D next to your name...
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posted on
05/24/2005 4:43:56 AM PDT
by
mwyounce
To: Air Conditioned Gypsy
Why do I doubt this?
Let me count the ways . . . . . . .
21
posted on
05/24/2005 4:45:22 AM PDT
by
DustyMoment
(FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
To: Air Conditioned Gypsy

What a total jerk.
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posted on
05/24/2005 4:46:08 AM PDT
by
jws3sticks
(Hillary can take a very long walk on a very short pier, anytime, and the sooner the better!)
To: Stashiu
Of course, they will have to 'sanitize' the released records. I doubt that the original DD214 will ever see the light of day.Paging Jeran Francois: The cover-up can be worse than the crime...
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posted on
05/24/2005 4:46:49 AM PDT
by
mewzilla
To: Petronski
lol ~ yeap!
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posted on
05/24/2005 4:47:01 AM PDT
by
Zacs Mom
(Proud wife of a Marine! ... and purveyor of "rampant, unedited dialogue")
To: Air Conditioned Gypsy
John Kerry"
Don't trust and most definitely verify. If he says the sky is blue, look out the window to double check.
25
posted on
05/24/2005 4:48:32 AM PDT
by
dennisw
(He writes everything's been returned which was owed...)
To: Petronski
Egads, Petronski! WHERE did you find that Dali-ish graphic?
Got one for 'his staff is going through it'?
26
posted on
05/24/2005 4:52:01 AM PDT
by
arasina
(So there.)
To: jws3sticks
That's the funniest Kerry picture I've seen.
Funnier than some of his 'dork' pictures.
To: Air Conditioned Gypsy
That one is Intense Dork.
28
posted on
05/24/2005 4:58:13 AM PDT
by
arasina
(So there.)
To: Air Conditioned Gypsy
... Kerry obtained a copy of Form 180 and signed it. ''The next step is to send it to the Navy ... " LOL. Now tell the truth, this was predictable. Now Kerry can say he signed it. Sheesh, lay off already. =:-O
29
posted on
05/24/2005 4:59:12 AM PDT
by
Cboldt
To: Zacs Mom
30
posted on
05/24/2005 4:59:51 AM PDT
by
YaYa123
(@Yuck.com)
To: nmh
WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO TURN IT IN, SENATOR KERRY! That's right, cuz it's been signed, but is now in a firmly sealed mayonnaise jar, inside a secret safe in one one or Mama-T's palatial mansions, awaiting release sometime before 2008. But rest assured, it's been signed.
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posted on
05/24/2005 4:59:56 AM PDT
by
beckaz
(The facts of life are conservative. (Maggie Thatcher))
To: Air Conditioned Gypsy
"I don't understand. It must have gotten lost in the mail."
To: Air Conditioned Gypsy
He signed it, but he didn't send it.
33
posted on
05/24/2005 5:03:47 AM PDT
by
fhayek
To: Air Conditioned Gypsy
I hope for Kerry's sake that there is actually something embarassing in his records. If not the Dems will be furious that the GOP was able to beat Kerry up over this issue when there was nothing to hide.
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posted on
05/24/2005 5:04:48 AM PDT
by
jalisco555
("Dogs look up to us, cats look down on us and pigs treat us as equals" Winston Churchill)
To: Air Conditioned Gypsy
Isn't the point of the 180 that the military will release the records directly to the public? Why would anyone accept what the Kerry campaign puts out as the complete, unabridged record?
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posted on
05/24/2005 5:07:58 AM PDT
by
NonValueAdded
(NEWSWEEK LIED, PEOPLE DIED)
To: Air Conditioned Gypsy
He just signed it, he didn't send it in yet.
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posted on
05/24/2005 5:09:08 AM PDT
by
Smokin' Joe
(Grant no power to government you would not want your worst enemies to wield against you.)
To: Air Conditioned Gypsy
I wonder if his records were retyped on a IBM Selectric Composer typewriter courtesy of Dan Rather.
Headline: Rather ghost writes Kerry's records, FOX exclusive! lol
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posted on
05/24/2005 5:16:44 AM PDT
by
TheForceOfOne
(My tagline is currently being blocked by Congressional filibuster for being to harsh.)
To: Air Conditioned Gypsy
He said he would sign it.
He didn't say he would turn it in after he had signed it.
Lawyers.
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posted on
05/24/2005 5:18:21 AM PDT
by
Carry_Okie
(The environment is too complex and too important to be managed by central planning.)
To: TheForceOfOne
I wonder if his records were retyped on a IBM Selectric Composer typewriter lol
Possibly done on Alger Hiss' Woodstock.
To: Carry_Okie
He said he would sign it. He didn't say he would turn it in after he had signed it. How Clintonesque.
To: Air Conditioned Gypsy
I'll believe Kerry is releasing his records when I see them released. He said he SIGNED the form.....but, did he turn it in? Typical Kerry BS.
To: Air Conditioned Gypsy
The DNC should buy stock in Kinko's. They could get a volume discount rate. John Kerry just doesn't get it, he has no credit, too little too late. I bet his is still holding out hope he can win Ohio. lol
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posted on
05/24/2005 5:25:33 AM PDT
by
TheForceOfOne
(My tagline is currently being blocked by Congressional filibuster for being to harsh.)
To: Air Conditioned Gypsy; johnny7; TomGuy; maryz; Lonesome in Massachussets; JLO; gidget7; ...
Lying Traitor ping!!
HE SAID IT....AGAIN!!!!
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posted on
05/24/2005 5:27:23 AM PDT
by
bitt
("There are troubling signs Bush doesn't care about winning a third term." (JH2))
To: bitt

'Joan Vennochi writes regularly about national and local politics, and also covers issues relating to business, law and culture. Before joining the op-ed page, she wrote a column on the Globe's business page.
Vennochi was City Hall bureau chief, State House bureau chief, and covered national politics for the Globe. She began her career at the paper as a researcher on the Spotlight Team, the newspaper's investigative unit. She shared in a Pulitzer Prize awarded to the team for local investigative reporting.
Vennochi is a graduate of Boston University and Suffolk Law School.
Vennochi's column appears every Tuesday and Thursday in the Globe, and she writes a Web-only column on the fourth Friday of every month.'
Thanks you letters are in order: Joan Vennochi's e-mail address is vennochi@globe.com.
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posted on
05/24/2005 5:32:28 AM PDT
by
bitt
("There are troubling signs Bush doesn't care about winning a third term." (JH2))
To: Boazo; Next_Time_NJ; Richard Kimball; DocRock; reagan_fanatic; Sloth; MeekOneGOP; battousai; ...
get ready - we will be looking for a good pic for this 'announcement'....
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posted on
05/24/2005 5:34:10 AM PDT
by
bitt
("There are troubling signs Bush doesn't care about winning a third term." (JH2))
To: Air Conditioned Gypsy
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posted on
05/24/2005 5:37:28 AM PDT
by
tiredoflaundry
("Harry Reid in stripes, I kinda like that image." -Tagline courtesy of DFU. Thanks!)
To: Air Conditioned Gypsy
What could be in there that he is so afraid of?
47
posted on
05/24/2005 5:39:35 AM PDT
by
bkepley
To: Air Conditioned Gypsy
Like notifying the mortgage company that you have signed the check, what's the problem?
You mean I need to mail it?
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posted on
05/24/2005 5:43:03 AM PDT
by
N. Theknow
(BXVI - The cafeteria is closed.)
To: Air Conditioned Gypsy
he added that his staff was ''still going through it"
Why? So they could black out the parts that prove Kerry is a traitor and a liar?
To: Air Conditioned Gypsy
"Yes, I signed the form 180 just like I said I would. It is on my desks and I am reviewing it. Next I will probably put a stamp on it. I will let you know when I do that. Then I will move it to my personal outgoing mail box...not the one that actually sends the mail out, just the one I use to think about sending mail out......
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posted on
05/24/2005 5:51:23 AM PDT
by
BJungNan
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