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The caveat emperor - (Kerry signes 180)
Boston Globe ^ | 5/24/2005 | Joan Vennochi

Posted on 05/24/2005 8:53:46 AM PDT by golfboy

During an interview yesterday with Globe editorial writers and columnists, the former Democratic presidential nominee was asked if had signed Form SF 180, authorizing the Department of Defense to grant access to all his military records. ''I have signed it," Kerry said. Then, he added that his staff was ''still going through it" and ''very, very shortly, you will have a chance to see it."

(Excerpt) Read more at boston.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: 180; duplicate; form180; joanvennochi; kerry; medicalrecord
John Kerry has signed the 180 form!! But you can't see it just yet... LOL!!!
1 posted on 05/24/2005 8:53:48 AM PDT by golfboy
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To: golfboy

I don't believe him. Period. His lips moved, so he had to be lying.


2 posted on 05/24/2005 8:55:24 AM PDT by Ron in Acreage (It's the borders stupid!)
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To: golfboy
He signed it before he didn't sign it.


3 posted on 05/24/2005 8:55:42 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

effin has signed the 180, I wonder what his staff is alledgedly "going through" and how soon we will actually get to see it....


4 posted on 05/24/2005 8:55:44 AM PDT by MikefromOhio (Is anyone else ready for football to begin again?)
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To: golfboy

I first signed the form before I didn't sign it


5 posted on 05/24/2005 8:55:49 AM PDT by Mr. K (some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help)
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To: golfboy

why would his staff have to "go thru" a short authorization form?


6 posted on 05/24/2005 8:56:24 AM PDT by pissant (I've got a headache)
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To: Mr. K
Do we get the expurgated version ?
7 posted on 05/24/2005 8:57:32 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: golfboy

I signed it, but I haven't submitted it. There, I have fulfilled my promise.....


8 posted on 05/24/2005 8:57:48 AM PDT by Red Badger (I woke up this morning and discovered my Memory Foam mattress had Alzheimer's......)
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To: Red Badger

"I signed it, but I haven't submitted it. There, I have fulfilled my promise....."

You may well be on to something.


9 posted on 05/24/2005 8:59:07 AM PDT by righttackle44 (The most dangerous weapon in the world is a Marine with his rifle and the American people behind him)
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To: Red Badger

Haven't we heard this from him before. I don't believe him. He always twists words around.


10 posted on 05/24/2005 8:59:19 AM PDT by Merry
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To: golfboy
I actually voted for John Kerry, before I voted against him.TM
11 posted on 05/24/2005 9:00:02 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Controlled substance laws created the federal health care monopoly and fund terrorism.)
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To: golfboy
Sorry Jean, but we need the 180 signed from your AMERICAN SERVICE records... We've all seen your "hero" wall in vietnam.

By the way... I think what George thinks...

All pics found @ Strange Politics

12 posted on 05/24/2005 9:02:08 AM PDT by raivyn (ATTENTION: My /sarcasm is broken - please don't take ANYTHING I say personally!)
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To: Red Badger; righttackle44

Red Badger is definately on to something...


13 posted on 05/24/2005 9:03:40 AM PDT by raivyn (ATTENTION: My /sarcasm is broken - please don't take ANYTHING I say personally!)
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To: golfboy; Eric in the Ozarks

14 posted on 05/24/2005 9:04:39 AM PDT by itsamelman (“Announcing your plans is a good way to hear God laugh.” -- Al Swearengen)
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To: golfboy

Coincidental that he maybe signed, maybe will file, on this day of betrayal by the RINOs?


15 posted on 05/24/2005 9:11:23 AM PDT by worldclass (www.massright.com)
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To: golfboy

Kerry: "It is being edited as we speak."


16 posted on 05/24/2005 9:14:49 AM PDT by fish hawk (I am only one, but I am not the only one.)
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To: golfboy
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17 posted on 05/24/2005 9:53:54 AM PDT by MarineBrat (Electricity: the high priest of false security.)
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To: golfboy

I think he means he endorsed a long littany of flip-flops. Everyone knows that a flip is 180 degrees from a flop...


18 posted on 05/24/2005 10:09:39 AM PDT by trebb ("I am the way... no one comes to the Father, but by me..." - Jesus in John 14:6 (RSV))
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To: golfboy
''very, very shortly, you will have a chance to see it."

What 'John Kerry reporting for duty' really means is after his staff is finished going through it he will show us a copy of Form SF 180.

19 posted on 05/24/2005 10:30:54 AM PDT by layman (Card Carrying Infidel)
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To: golfboy

He's well known for doing a 180.


20 posted on 05/24/2005 11:01:48 AM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: golfboy

He signed it, then locked it away in his file cabinet without ever submitting it to the DoD.


21 posted on 05/24/2005 11:04:19 AM PDT by thoughtomator (The U.S. Constitution poses no serious threat to our form of government)
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To: golfboy
I wonder why he signed it after all this time?

Maybe he figures when his record is made public, he'll be more popular than ever with the liberals. Or he has been guaranteed that the worse records have been destroyed. Or some of the records are going to become public soon anyway through other means.

Perhaps he did get a change in his status from general to honorable discharge. His petition for a change may also be in records that are not sealed by the military. Perhaps, these records may be in someone's memoirs that are soon to be published or something. Otherwise, this doesn't make sense to sign the form now.
22 posted on 05/25/2005 8:32:26 AM PDT by FR_addict
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To: golfboy

Does he know that it's 2005?


23 posted on 05/25/2005 8:33:28 AM PDT by Redcloak (Over 16,000 served.)
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To: golfboy

John O'Neill has apparently signed a Form 180:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/images/banners/O%27Neill_Form_180.jpg

I wonder how many lies will come to the surface about his service?

After all, we know he's lied about his service in Vietnam.

Don't think so? Here's a FOIA summary of his service posted by the Navy Times:

http://navytimes.com/content/editorial/pdf/kerry_oneill.pdf

So according to his own records - and simple arithmetic - he served about 15 months on a minesweeper, which spent about three months of that time in Vietnamese waters:

http://www.usswoodpeckermsc209.com/woodpecker_history.htm

Then he spent just under a year in Vietnam proper on Swift Boats - about 3.5 months in Cos. Div. 13 and 8 months in Cos. Div. 11. (also check out the history link at www.swiftboats.net).

That makes a grand total of about 15 months of service in or off the coast of Vietnam.

But a quick Google search shows that in 1971 he repeatedly claimed to have been "in Vietnam" nearly THREE YEARS:

During the Cavett debate: "... and after being in Vietnam for almost three years, I decided I wanted to go home back to Texas."

http://www.swiftvets.com/staticpages/index.php?page=Debate2


To the US Conference of Mayors: "I served in Vietnam for almost three years."

http://www.usmayors.org/uscm/us_mayor_newspaper/documents/04_12_04/kerry_oneill.asp

In a written statement prepared for a congressional committee: "This was the single most heroic act that I have witnessed during almost three years in Vietnam."

http://horse.he.net/~swiftpow/article.php?story=2004102209180749&mode=print


More uh, "misrepresentations":


To Kerry, in Cavett debate: "The first point is I served in Coastal Division 11 for 12 months, not four. ... I did serve in the same place you did, and not for four months but for 18 months... ."

http://www.swiftvets.com/staticpages/index.php?page=Debate2

"I served in Coastal Division 11 for a year. . . .I served for much of the prior two years in waters adjacent to Vietnam. "

http://horse.he.net/~swiftpow/article.php?story=2004102209180749&mode=print



And more recently:

"Ironically, John Kerry and I served much of our time, a full 12 months in my case and an abbreviated 4 month tour in his, commanding the exact same six-man boat, PCF-44, which I took over after he requested early departure."

http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110005036

Actually, he took over PCF 54 (not PCF 44) more than eight months after Kerry left.





24 posted on 05/28/2005 11:41:32 AM PDT by write_on61
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To: write_on61

Correction to Post #24:

O'Neill took over PCF 94 five months after Kerry left, not eight months.


25 posted on 05/28/2005 5:19:32 PM PDT by write_on61
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To: golfboy

Uh, his staff is 'going through it' with a scrub brush and bleach.


26 posted on 05/28/2005 5:21:16 PM PDT by hershey
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