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Lindsey Graham interviewed on Mike Gallagher
Mike Gallagher Show - partial transcript ^ | 05/24/2005 | self

Posted on 05/24/2005 11:18:01 AM PDT by AFPhys

In the last hour of the show, Lindsey Graham was on the Mike Gallagher show. Here is a synopsis of what he said

- I pretty much leave out the other side of the conversation since it is usually pretty clear what Mike said:


- It's tough to disagree with your friends...
- I'd like to give you my reasoning here...
[interrupted by Mike with clip played of Reid crowing: sent a message to Pres & Radical R's]
- He's just playing that to his base. The bottom line is that Reid and the D's lose the battle over these three that they most wanted to block. Pryor, Brown, Owens will be confirmed real soon.
- If filibusters are allowed, that will damage the judiciary. We had to end that. This is a chance to start over and reinstate the Senate tradition of parties working together. But ...
- I am a YES vote - a solid YES - for the Constitutional Option - if the D's resume filibustering.
- I predict all eight of these nominees will get back in the process, and that seven of those eight will be confirmed - but that one will not.
- This is all about the Supreme Court, though.
- The real big problem I had is "what happens if the Constitutional option failed?" There are FIVE SOLID NOs against the Constitutional option. There are 4 or 5 unknown. This was too close. Failure would be a disaster and really cause problems.
- Best is to get these conservative justices on the bench, and that will reframe the debate for the D's since these are not now "too extreme".
- [What if D's Filibuster USSC justices?] - D's said they would not filibuster unless "exceptional circumstances" - and that's not a wide open phrase - they aren't sinning this.
- Conservative justices will now make it through the judicial process.
- I will vote for the Constitutional option if they filibuster Supreme Court and so will at least one more of the 12.
- [lost momentum?] - Maybe - but don't forget that they have now put "Neanderthals" (Kennedy/ Reid's words) to be judges, and so these are not "too conservative" to be on the bench.
- This has been the hardest thing I've done ...
- If they filibuster, I'll fight back hard - I'll start over with the "nuclear option" - but we'll be in a far stronger position when we're discussing the Supreme Court justices with the public.
- I may be wrong and hope I'm not about all this - time will tell.

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 109th; filibuster; turncoats; ussenate
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Passing his words along without further commentary.

Sorry about the disjointed phrases.

If a transcript comes up somewhere, please post at least parts of it.

Thanks.

1 posted on 05/24/2005 11:18:09 AM PDT by AFPhys
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To: AFPhys

Lindsey, where I come from, if you're hanging out with Hillary Clinton, you're up to no good...


2 posted on 05/24/2005 11:19:38 AM PDT by dirtboy (Drooling moron since 1998...)
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To: dirtboy

We've already got the campaign stickers for any opponent willing to challenge Sen. Graham in the primary right out of his own mouth. "Republican by day; Democrat by night!"


3 posted on 05/24/2005 11:21:50 AM PDT by MarcusTulliusCicero
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To: dirtboy

Lindsey, where I come from, if you're hanging out with Hillary Clinton, you're up to no good.
And your feet stink, and your mama dresses you funny...


4 posted on 05/24/2005 11:22:58 AM PDT by Colorado Mike
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To: AFPhys
The dems are playing to their base, the repubs are showing the middle finger to their base. Not too smart.

He's just playing that to his base

5 posted on 05/24/2005 11:22:59 AM PDT by DManA
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To: AFPhys

Someone call up and tell him to burn in hell and switch parties.


6 posted on 05/24/2005 11:23:00 AM PDT by Ol' Sparky
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To: AFPhys

Too bad the backstabber didnt' work his heart out to convince the NOs to support our President and honor all those who worked so hard to get the President re-elected.


7 posted on 05/24/2005 11:23:06 AM PDT by OldFriend (MAJOR TAMMY DUCKWORTH.....INSPIRATIONAL)
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To: DManA

We (libs and conservatives alike) are all so concerned about how appellate and Supreme Ct. justices will rule concerning legislation--legislation passed by freely elected US and state legislators. Yet, there is NOTHING, I repeat NOTHING in the US constitution giving federal judges the authority to overturn legislation passed by such legislators. The judiciary (under Chief Justice Marshall) essentially seized this power in a constitutional coup in the seminal case Marbury vs. Madison. What we conservatives should be debating is whether the institution of judicial review should even exist in this day and age. Most representative republics don't have it. A law passed by a freely elected parliament is assumed to be constitutional. That is how it is in Britain and most of Europe. American legislators and executives swear an oath to uphold and defend the US constitution. It is thus unthinkable that they would introuduce, let alone pass legislation violating our Constitution. I know this seems quixotic, but if we press our allies in the Federalist society and in Congress, we may, someday, be able to push through a constituional amendment eliminating the odious doctrine of judicial review.


8 posted on 05/24/2005 11:23:14 AM PDT by sawdust ("Justice Marshall has made his decision, now let him enforce it"--Pres. Andrew Jackson)
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To: dirtboy
The problem is that the Republicans still have a lot of people who remember when they were the dog under the table eating only the scraps the Dems threw at them. As such they always are saying , what will happen when they are in the majority again.
These people need to realize that the electorate is moving in the Republican direction and not the New York Times/MSM direction and get some backbone or retire.
9 posted on 05/24/2005 11:24:58 AM PDT by Wooly
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To: AFPhys

The Bible says we will be known by our "Fruits" and since Graham hangs with the group he has chosen to vote for. That says more than the mere words he used to spin his position.


10 posted on 05/24/2005 11:25:05 AM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: AFPhys

AFPHys, Thanks for taking the time to write all this down and post it!
Sounds like Graham (& DeWine) are not planning to forgoe votes for the constitutional option after all, despite what the agreement says.


11 posted on 05/24/2005 11:25:33 AM PDT by MillardFillmore (blah-blah-blah)
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To: AFPhys
D's said they would not filibuster unless "exceptional circumstances" - and that's not a wide open phrase

Sure. I believe that.

12 posted on 05/24/2005 11:25:42 AM PDT by Air Conditioned Gypsy
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To: AFPhys
- I am a YES vote - a solid YES - for the Constitutional Option - if the D's resume filibustering.

If should be WHEN.

13 posted on 05/24/2005 11:25:50 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: AFPhys

Not that there's anything wrong with it...


14 posted on 05/24/2005 11:26:08 AM PDT by Clemenza (Vader 2008: In your heart, you know he's right)
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To: steveegg; Txsleuth
Pryor, Brown, Owens will be confirmed real soon.

Does he know this? As I said before, I'm optimistic.

15 posted on 05/24/2005 11:26:59 AM PDT by TheBigB (These aren't the droids you're looking for...)
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To: AFPhys
A few comments on this point:

Maybe - but don't forget that they have now put "Neanderthals" (Kennedy/ Reid's words) to be judges, and so these are not "too conservative" to be on the bench.

Certainly, if the Dems try to fillibuster another judge, Lindsey can say, "Well, this guy is no more Conservative than the other three you approved". Unfortunately, such a response is likley to carry little weight with the Dems or the MSM. They will just plow forward. The whole idea that the Dems have to even try to be consistent is the fallacy in the logic. Just look at Peach's list of Dem quotes from the late 90's if you don't believe me.

16 posted on 05/24/2005 11:27:00 AM PDT by Pete
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To: AFPhys

He's just been duped by McCain. McCain needs to be the first to pay for this fiasco. We must get him out of power. Then we can move on to the others.


17 posted on 05/24/2005 11:27:48 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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To: Air Conditioned Gypsy

"Exceptional circumstances" to the Dems will be in a Bush nominee is breathing.


18 posted on 05/24/2005 11:28:54 AM PDT by Fledermaus (Nothing in this RINO deal guarantees Brown, Owen and Pryor will be CONFIRMED!)
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To: AFPhys

I pray that someone will tell this sissy, that he should NEVER EVER think for one second that he has any hope to be President. His voice shows how little of a man he is. He is a squirrelly, girlie man. Lindsey, you are pathetic wimp. You have NOTHING to offer this country. I would give anything to tell this to his face. My God, this man just help do great damage to our Republic.


19 posted on 05/24/2005 11:30:09 AM PDT by liberty2004
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To: AFPhys
The real big problem I had is "what happens if the Constitutional option failed?" There are FIVE SOLID NOs against the Constitutional option. There are 4 or 5 unknown. This was too close. Failure would be a disaster and really cause problems.

Lindsey and I are/were on the same page. The nuclear/Constitutional option was not a slam-dunk, and losing would have meant a persistence of the status quo. Getting the three most "extreme" judges a vote and likely confirmation, plus the restraint of making a judicial filibuster radioactive (pardon the metaphor) for the Dems:

this is a win, folks. The status quo has been altered in significant favor of the Republicans.

20 posted on 05/24/2005 11:30:18 AM PDT by cogitator
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To: 1Old Pro

So which word will he break; the MOU or this statement?


21 posted on 05/24/2005 11:31:27 AM PDT by steveegg (Will the "extraordinary" line have the name Owen, Brown or Pryor attached to it?)
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To: AFPhys
Good, good, good.

He is saying all of the right things. The more I hear about this deal, the more I like it.

DeWine and Graham are now the two ultimate power brokers in the Senate. They have both said definitively that they will support the Constitutional Option if the Dems start to filibuster again. They have also both indicated that they will support the President's nominees to the USSC.

22 posted on 05/24/2005 11:33:53 AM PDT by cicero's_son
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To: cogitator
this is a win, folks. The status quo has been altered in significant favor of the Republicans.

Bingo.

And it is also a clear signal to the base--us--that we have the votes needed to get our Supreme Court nominees voted on and appointed.

23 posted on 05/24/2005 11:34:59 AM PDT by cicero's_son
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To: AFPhys

aha..thanks....


24 posted on 05/24/2005 11:36:39 AM PDT by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to pass on her gene pool....any volunteers?)
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To: MillardFillmore
Thank you all for your appreciation of my writing this.

I'm just reporting what he said. I have expressed my - shall I say - "dismay" - about this on many other posts.

It seems to me Graham really feared that the C.O. was too shaky - and I hope he solidly in communication with Frist (hard to say) regarding that - but I think he's really right about a failure there really being a disaster.

Please copy a real transcript, or portions of one, if you run across them. I was pretty rough in my stenographic work on this while in the car. I may have retranslated my "abbreviations" incorrectly and misstated what he said.
25 posted on 05/24/2005 11:36:43 AM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: AFPhys
The real big problem I had is "what happens if the Constitutional option failed?" There are FIVE SOLID NOs against the Constitutional option.

I mentioned this on a thread a few days ago. This is the only solid reasoning I could think of. If the nuclear option failed to carry, then Frist couldn't get any of them confirmed because it would totally embolden the Dems. This is the only logical scenario that makes sense. Still, Bush should have worked the phones like he did to get his pet welfare projects through Congress.

26 posted on 05/24/2005 11:37:09 AM PDT by econ_grad
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To: cicero's_son
I absolutely agree, the doomsayers will continue to cry in their beer but we are going to end up with all but one of GWs nominees more here
27 posted on 05/24/2005 11:37:47 AM PDT by traderrob6
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To: AFPhys

Did you hear Grahan on the Senate floor..about 11am this morning?..That's the transcript we need to find?..and when C-span reruns it.you must catch it..


28 posted on 05/24/2005 11:37:49 AM PDT by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to pass on her gene pool....any volunteers?)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

I agree :::

McCain is the MAJOR problem here.

I will never vote for him. Never. I will send any opponent of his cash. I will pray for his demise.


29 posted on 05/24/2005 11:38:29 AM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: Ol' Sparky

Oooooooh Sparky, your so strict! *~* (The part about switching parties that is). LOL


30 posted on 05/24/2005 11:38:41 AM PDT by Dawgreg (Happiness is not having what you want, but wanting what you have.)
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To: cicero's_son

dewino would not have sunk this by himself.

This all about bogus power.


31 posted on 05/24/2005 11:39:59 AM PDT by fooman (Get real with Kim Jung Mentally Ill about proliferation)
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To: AFPhys; Cboldt

Cboldt..pls see my #28 here..can you help us out..I lost that search link you gave us yesterday..actually, i didn;t lose it, it's on my puter, I can't find it..LOL


32 posted on 05/24/2005 11:40:03 AM PDT by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to pass on her gene pool....any volunteers?)
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To: AFPhys

Here is the email I just sent to Senator Graham:
Senator Graham,

I see you've caved on the matter of judicial filibusters by the Democrats and that is your perogative. I will now exercise my perogative as a voter. You sir, will not get my vote again. I will also vote for whomever opposes you in the Republican primary.

If it was just this one issue, I'd probably overlook it. But anymore, I don't know what you stand for or where you are coming from. Acturally, I think that I'd rather vote for a liberal democrat than for you. At least I know what THEY stand for.

You'd be wise to listen up. There are many other conservatives out here in the hinderlands who think as I do.

A very disgruntled voter,

My Name


33 posted on 05/24/2005 11:43:22 AM PDT by goodn'mad
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To: ken5050

I didn't catch it - there's some way to get the Senate record from their web site, but I don't have time to dig that up now. I have to leave here real soon...

One certain thing, at least if he's being candid:
Graham is on a hair trigger with this "extraordinary circumstances" and filibuster. He is really counting on honesty from these Demo's in on the agreement, and if they don't come through, that will be "all she wrote" - is he wrong? He admits the possibility, but hopes not.

I also believe that those "five certain NO's" could easily turn into 4 or three if the D's break their agreement. (rumors have it...)



34 posted on 05/24/2005 11:45:13 AM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: goodn'mad
The Good news is that McCain and Graham will never win higher office in our Party. The base will support them just as these two supported us.

Pray for W and Our Troops

35 posted on 05/24/2005 11:46:03 AM PDT by bray (Pray for Iraq's Freedom from Mohammad)
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To: AFPhys

Since the DemoncRATs have already broken the agreement Limpy Graham looks like a total fool and idiot.


36 posted on 05/24/2005 11:48:41 AM PDT by Steven W.
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To: AFPhys
I was doing a little channel surfing last night and stopped in on C-Span II for a few minutes. After watching Senator Boxer patiently explaining the Constitution and Senate rules to the slow witted Republicans, I can only hope and pray that the other Democrats will be more gracious than she was now that they are firmly in control of the US Senate.
37 posted on 05/24/2005 11:52:29 AM PDT by Bar-Face
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To: MarcusTulliusCicero

"And queer as a football bat all of the time."


38 posted on 05/24/2005 11:53:22 AM PDT by Guillermo (Bush is no conservative. Don't insult my intelligence by telling me that he is)
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To: cicero's_son

I'm glad you think with your head and not your knees!


39 posted on 05/24/2005 11:53:46 AM PDT by cogitator
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To: AFPhys
There are FIVE SOLID NOs against the Constitutional option. There are 4 or 5 unknown.

This is the heart of the problem.

40 posted on 05/24/2005 11:54:11 AM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: AFPhys

Unfortunately, this confirms what I feared, which was that we NEVER had a solid 51 votes. I will be calling DeWhine's office, and telling him that I expect action on these, and while I can't vote against him this year, I can work like hell to derail his son's congressional seat.


41 posted on 05/24/2005 11:55:49 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news)
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To: sawdust

Your tagline, I love that quote and the context of it.


42 posted on 05/24/2005 11:56:20 AM PDT by eyespysomething (Peace - that brief moment in history where everyone stands around reloading.)
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To: LS
I will be calling DeWhine's office, and telling him that I expect action on these, and while I can't vote against him this year, I can work like hell to derail his son's congressional seat.

http://www.gobrinkman.com/ for those of like mind, State rep. Tom Brinkman for Congress running against Pat DeWine in the primary

43 posted on 05/24/2005 11:59:10 AM PDT by JohnnyZ (“When you’re hungry, you eat; when you’re a frog, you leap; if you’re scared, get a dog.”)
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To: Clemenza; hobbes1

Steeped in gayness.


44 posted on 05/24/2005 12:00:18 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (Got no Spine? Not one damn dime)
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To: cogitator

The problem is that he took on all kinds of things, like vote counts, that WERE NOT HIS JOB. Every senator does not know the overall picture and the fact that he did not know that he could equally cause damage to the voters, his party, and the remaining 48 senators makes me wonder how he ever got to be a senator in the first place. I hope he is as naive as he sounds and is not just trying to play it both ways. No matter, he is still a baby playing with wolves.


45 posted on 05/24/2005 12:02:07 PM PDT by Bush 100 Percent
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To: AFPhys
Well at least Reid acknowledges his base, and respects it enough to represent them, even when the are kooks.

Lindsey's base just gave him the majority on serious, important and reasonable issues of our time.

And he treats us like kooks.
46 posted on 05/24/2005 12:03:10 PM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: AFPhys

Graham: '..."exceptional circumstances" - and that's not a wide open phrase...'


Good grief, what a tool.


47 posted on 05/24/2005 12:04:55 PM PDT by Petronski (A champion of dance, my moves will put you in a trance, and I never leave the disco alone.)
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To: ken5050

I don't have a transcript from 5/24 yet. Is that what you are looking for?


48 posted on 05/24/2005 12:07:47 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: ken5050
I don't have a transcript from 5/24 yet. Is that what you are looking for?

http://thomas.loc.gov/r109/r109.html <- Congressional Record by day

49 posted on 05/24/2005 12:09:42 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Petronski; dubyaismypresident
Good grief, what a tool.

What Graham Says everytime MCCain sidles up behind him...

Ill take Potent Potables for 400 Alex...

50 posted on 05/24/2005 12:10:08 PM PDT by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you dont have to...." ;)
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