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Child Population Dwindles in San Francisco
Yahoo/Reuters ^

Posted on 05/24/2005 12:34:12 PM PDT by Uncledave

By LISA LEFF, Associated Press Writer

SAN FRANCISCO - Anne Bakstad and Ed Cohen are starting to feel as if their family of four is an endangered species in San Francisco.

Since the couple bought a house five years ago, more than a dozen families in their social circle have left the city for cheaper housing, better schools or both.

The goodbyes are so frequent that Carina, age 4 1/2, wants to know when she is going to move, too. Eric, 2 1/2, misses Gus, his playmate from across the street.

"When we get to know people through our kids, we think to ourselves, `Are they renters or owners? Where do they work?' You have to figure out how much time to invest in people," Bakstad said. "It makes you feel like, `Where is everyone going? Stay with us!'"

A similar lament is being heard in San Francisco's half-empty classrooms, in parks where parents are losing ground to dog owners, and in the corridors of City Hall.

San Francisco has the smallest share of small-fry of any major U.S. city. Just 14.5 percent of the city's population is 18 and under.

It is no mystery why U.S. cities are losing children. The promise of safer streets, better schools and more space has drawn young families away from cities for as long as America has had suburbs.

But kids are even more scarce in San Francisco than in expensive New York (24 percent) or in retirement havens such as Palm Beach, Fla., (19 percent), according to Census estimates.

San Francisco's large gay population — estimated at 20 percent by the city Public Health Department — is thought to be one factor, though gays and lesbians in the city are increasingly raising families.

Another reason San Francisco's children are disappearing: Family housing in the city is especially scarce and expensive. A two-bedroom, 1,000-square-foot starter home is considered a bargain at $760,000.

A recent survey by the city controller found 40 percent of parents said they were considering pulling up stakes within the next year.

Determined to change things, Mayor Gavin Newsom has put the kid crisis near the top of his agenda, appointing a 27-member policy council to develop plans for keeping families in the city.

"It goes to the heart and soul of what I think a city is about — it's about generations, it's about renewal and it's about aspirations," said Newsom, 37. "To me, that's what children represent and that's what families represent and we just can't sit back idly and let it go away."

Newsom has expanded health insurance for the poor to cover more people under 25, and created a tax credit for working families. And voters have approved measures to patch up San Francisco's public schools, which have seen enrollment drop from about 62,000 to 59,000 since 2000.

One voter initiative approved up to $60 million annually to restore public school arts, physical education and other extras that state spending no longer covers. Another expanded the city's Children's Fund, guaranteeing about $30 million a year for after-school activities, child care subsidies and other programs.

"We are at a crossroads here," said N'Tanya Lee, executive director of the nonprofit Coleman Advocates for Children and Youth. "We are moving toward a place where we could have an infrastructure of children's services and no children."

Other cities are trying similar strategies. Seattle has created a children's fund, like the one in San Francisco. Leaders in Portland, Ore., are pushing developers to build affordable housing for families, a move Newsom has also tried.

For families choosing to stay in San Francisco, life remains a series of trade-offs. They can enjoy world-class museums, natural beauty and an energy they say they cannot find in the suburbs.

But most families need two or more incomes to keep their homes, and their children spend most of their days being cared for by others.

"We have so many friends who are moving out and say how much easier life has been for them," Bakstad said. "If we can make it work in the city, we would love to stay. In a way, the jury is out."


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Hardly surprising trend
1 posted on 05/24/2005 12:34:12 PM PDT by Uncledave
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To: Uncledave
Well it's about time they figured out that two men can't conceive a child...
2 posted on 05/24/2005 12:36:49 PM PDT by RockinRight (Conservatism is common sense, liberalism is just senseless.)
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To: Uncledave

and thank God. . . .


3 posted on 05/24/2005 12:37:02 PM PDT by stompk
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To: Uncledave
That is what liberals do - grow government and drive up the cost of living. It is the factor explaining why people vote republican when the move to the 'burbs.

housing and republicans

5 posted on 05/24/2005 12:37:33 PM PDT by Jibaholic (The facts of life are conservative - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: Uncledave

Couples Steve & Bruce and Susan & Betty are perplexed...


6 posted on 05/24/2005 12:37:34 PM PDT by Millee (So you're a feminist......isn't that cute??)
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To: Uncledave

I am Jack's Total Lack of Surprise.


7 posted on 05/24/2005 12:37:35 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows ("Robert Byrd:He may have 'gone under the water,' but the preacher didn't hold him down long enough.")
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To: Uncledave

No comment necessary.


8 posted on 05/24/2005 12:37:50 PM PDT by cvq3842
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To: Uncledave
Child Population Dwindles in San Francisco

NAMBLA Saddened....

9 posted on 05/24/2005 12:37:53 PM PDT by freebilly (Go Santa Cruz Baseball! Win CCS!)
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To: Uncledave

That's the city where the term "breeder" is considered a vicious insult.


10 posted on 05/24/2005 12:38:24 PM PDT by Petronski (A champion of dance, my moves will put you in a trance, and I never leave the disco alone.)
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To: Uncledave

Culture of Death bump...


11 posted on 05/24/2005 12:38:41 PM PDT by Antoninus (Benedictus qui venit in nomine Domini, Hosanna in excelsis!)
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To: Uncledave
The sexual revolution was launched in San Francisco. It is a city where contraception and abortion were championed early and it led the country in normalizing sodomy and pornography.

These are the results.

I wonder how many of the 14.5% of San Francisco residents who are under 18 are teenage runaway street hustlers.

12 posted on 05/24/2005 12:39:04 PM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander-in-Chief)
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To: samtheman

Good one, sam


13 posted on 05/24/2005 12:39:33 PM PDT by ConorMacNessa
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To: freebilly
National Association for Marlon Brando Look Alikes? :p
14 posted on 05/24/2005 12:39:40 PM PDT by tfecw (Vote Democrat, It's easier than working)
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To: Uncledave

What can you expect in a homosexual, lesbos environment other than a dwindling of heterosexual families which include children. The same sex population have no one to blame but themselves for their sterile environment.


15 posted on 05/24/2005 12:39:44 PM PDT by zoosha
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To: Uncledave

D'uoh!


17 posted on 05/24/2005 12:39:59 PM PDT by thegreatbeast (Quid lucrum istic mihi est?)
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To: Uncledave
Hmmm, if the population of SF falls dramatically, then will the socialists of SF come looking to the Federal Govt (read: the other people of this country who work hard and pay a butt-load of taxes to support stupid Gov't programs and grants) to save them and their socialist city?

Does that question seem a little biased?

18 posted on 05/24/2005 12:40:14 PM PDT by Finger Monkey (H.R. 25, Fair Tax Act - A consumption tax which replaces the income tax, SS tax, death tax, etc.)
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To: Uncledave

They will just have to import illegals who will let their children go to the schools that American's won't.


19 posted on 05/24/2005 12:40:20 PM PDT by tertiary01 (Help.....I'm a victim of Mexican imperialism.)
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To: Uncledave

"Child population dropping in San Fransisco"

SHOCKED! SHOCKED!! I am that homo-perves are not able to procreate.


20 posted on 05/24/2005 12:40:41 PM PDT by trubluolyguy ("Sure dolphins are friendly and smart, friendly and smart on rye bread with mayo")
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To: Uncledave
Gee whiz ...

Buggery doesn't result in pregnancy!

Whoever would have thought of that?

21 posted on 05/24/2005 12:40:52 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Time to Choose

See ya troll!


22 posted on 05/24/2005 12:40:55 PM PDT by Rutles4Ever
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To: Uncledave
Whew, I'm glad that the tolerance reeducation has eliminated the issue of streets full of homosexuals being an issue for families who decide to flee San Fran. The good mayor, now that it is not an issue, should have a monthly gay day so that families can be entertained by parades and displays of how 'alternative' families look.
23 posted on 05/24/2005 12:41:25 PM PDT by kingu
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To: Uncledave
Another fine example of the "Law of Unintended Consequences".

With the liberals aborting their childern, its logical that their school populations should be dwindling.

Abortion is also the reason liberals are loosing at the polls. Conservatives are raising conservative children. Liberals are raising .......?

24 posted on 05/24/2005 12:42:25 PM PDT by mlstier ("Abortion is not a choice. It's changing ones mind.")
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To: Uncledave

Let's hear it for Captain Obvious. Who in their right mind would rear children in the Queer Capital of the world? It's like living in Disneyland on Gay Day.


25 posted on 05/24/2005 12:42:28 PM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: Uncledave
I wonder why?
27 posted on 05/24/2005 12:43:03 PM PDT by Eepsy
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To: Time to Choose
Time to choose, huh?

Seems to me the sodomy and infanticide crowd chose unwisely ...

28 posted on 05/24/2005 12:43:34 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Uncledave
Thats what happens when women Kill their babies and naturally two or more people of the same sex cannot breed amongst themselves.
30 posted on 05/24/2005 12:43:46 PM PDT by Conservative4Life (Blaming GUNS for crimes is like Blaming SPOONS for Rosies morbid obesity....)
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To: Uncledave
The goodbyes are so frequent that Carina, age 4 1/2, wants to know when she is going to move, too. Eric, 2 1/2, misses Gus, his playmate from across the street.

When the number of rigteous people in the city drops below 10, I'd grab my things and run.

31 posted on 05/24/2005 12:43:52 PM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Uncledave

I say with their large , apparently, gay population and the diseases they harbor and the at risk behaviour they practice.....MOVE AWAY AS FAST AS YOU CAN....!!!!!!!


32 posted on 05/24/2005 12:44:13 PM PDT by cherry
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To: Uncledave
A two-bedroom, 1,000-square-foot starter home is considered a bargain at $760,000.

Just damn. Why does anyone with a child stay there? There are world-class museums and interesting scenery in Tulsa, too.

33 posted on 05/24/2005 12:45:06 PM PDT by Tax-chick (I'm a shallow, demagoguic sectarian because it's easier than working for a living.)
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To: Uncledave
One voter initiative approved up to $60 million annually to restore public school arts, physical education and other extras that state spending no longer covers. Another expanded the city's Children's Fund, guaranteeing about $30 million a year for after-school activities, child care subsidies and other programs.

Liberals are utterly clueless. Arts programs, physical education and parks are useless if you have to walk through urine-stained streets dodging alcoholics, drug-abusers and the mentally ill harassing you for spare change. Clean up the streets first and maybe you'll see progress.

34 posted on 05/24/2005 12:45:21 PM PDT by Libertarian444
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To: Uncledave

I was gonna make a joke but sadly, this one just isn't funny anymore. There are consequences to one's actions and lifestyle.


35 posted on 05/24/2005 12:45:22 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (If you must filibuster, let the Constitution do the talkin')
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To: Slings and Arrows
I am Jack's Total Lack of Surprise.

LOL

36 posted on 05/24/2005 12:45:23 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (The plan was simple, like my brother-in-law Phil. But unlike Phil, this plan just might work.)
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To: Rutles4Ever

It seems the mods are asleep. This troll has been spewing on multiple threads.


37 posted on 05/24/2005 12:45:30 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Just Blame President Bush For Everything, It Is Easier Than Using Your Brain)
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To: Uncledave

Understandable coming from San Francisco.


38 posted on 05/24/2005 12:45:37 PM PDT by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: Aquinasfan

And DON'T look back!


39 posted on 05/24/2005 12:45:41 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Rutles4Ever

This is a retread troll. He/she/it posts the same reply every time someone calls troll.


40 posted on 05/24/2005 12:46:10 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Not one more dime to the RNC until you get a spine and act like the MAJORITY.)
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To: Uncledave
Having lived in SF at one time and watched the prices, I'd say the reasons are primarily $$$. All the people I knew living there have bolted for places they could afford. And it's a self-fulfilling process: as more families leave, more schools close and more of the family-support structure disappears.
From my time living there, I really wouldn't classify it as a gay/straight thing. It's a money/family-friendliness thing. And no task force can turn that around. It's a shame, because despite all the bashing San Francisco is a very cool place.
41 posted on 05/24/2005 12:46:11 PM PDT by blowfish
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To: Uncledave

The Roe Effect.


42 posted on 05/24/2005 12:46:18 PM PDT by KC_Conspirator (This space outsourced to India)
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To: Time to Choose

No no - thank you - but I can't accept the title of genius when the real rocket scientists are busy reaming each other up the *ss and calling it "love".


43 posted on 05/24/2005 12:46:20 PM PDT by Rutles4Ever
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To: Aquinasfan

LOL!


44 posted on 05/24/2005 12:46:22 PM PDT by Tax-chick (I'm a shallow, demagoguic sectarian because it's easier than working for a living.)
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To: Uncledave

Like Massachusetts, any area totally dominated by the left is likely to see population decline amongst those who have children and desire a future for them.

Maybe elpreseidente Fox could help her out.


45 posted on 05/24/2005 12:46:36 PM PDT by mmercier (die thou unheard, tears unshed)
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To: COEXERJ145

"It seems the mods are asleep. This troll has been spewing on multiple threads."

One eye open, evidently, hehe.


46 posted on 05/24/2005 12:46:46 PM PDT by L98Fiero
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To: Antoninus

"San Francisco has the smallest share of small-fry of any major U.S. city. Just 14.5 percent of the city's population is 18 and under"

I wonder how many children have been kill in their "family planning centers"? An advanced city like San Francisco wouldn't want to be held down by children.

Holtz
JeffersonRepublic.com


47 posted on 05/24/2005 12:46:56 PM PDT by JeffersonRepublic.com
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To: RockinRight

What are you saying?
That two men can't conceive a child and thus pass on the 'Gay Gene'.
I'm confused...


48 posted on 05/24/2005 12:46:59 PM PDT by Paisan
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To: tfecw

Hold the Butt er....


49 posted on 05/24/2005 12:47:31 PM PDT by freebilly (Go Santa Cruz Baseball! Win CCS!)
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To: L98Fiero

Yeah, they got him right after I posted. LOL


50 posted on 05/24/2005 12:47:45 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Just Blame President Bush For Everything, It Is Easier Than Using Your Brain)
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