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What the ‘Average Joe’ Can Do About Porn…and Why - (caution; for adult readers only)
CONCERNED WOMEN FOR AMERICA.ORG ^ | MAY 24, 2005 | SARA BRODE

Posted on 05/24/2005 1:42:28 PM PDT by CHARLITE

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To: Zavien Doombringer
There isn't an immoral version of absolute, an absolute is true for all prople all places fro all time. It isn't about any idea.

Naturally that is true. Therefore, it is clear in my statement that I regard the typical Christian formulation of moral absolutism as absolutely false and invalid.

151 posted on 05/24/2005 2:42:20 PM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

If you are planning on shooting everyone who looks at porn I hope you have a lot of bullets.


152 posted on 05/24/2005 2:42:32 PM PDT by Mr. Blonde (You know, Happy Time Harry, just being around you kinda makes me want to die.)
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To: chris1

So what does your wife do while you watch your porn? Srubbing the toilets?


153 posted on 05/24/2005 2:42:38 PM PDT by TightyRighty
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To: cherry
there's a group freepers who are hypocritical sociopaths

LOL -- even the DUmmies, normally masters at anti-Freeper invective, don't scale that height of venom.

154 posted on 05/24/2005 2:43:21 PM PDT by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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To: chris1
Uh, I have been married for over 20 years... and you?

As far as the government is concerned, I don't want them in my house or my life.

Nobody has a right to tell you what to do

As far as assumptions, why don't you ask her how she feels about you viewing porn. She will answer the way most do...They don't like it.

155 posted on 05/24/2005 2:43:55 PM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (Have you gotten your Viking Kittie Patch today? http://www.visualops.com/patch.html)
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To: Zavien Doombringer
Then right is right, wrong is wrong. Evil is evil. Evil canoot be good, no matter where you are.

Naturally that is inherent within my statements. And equally so that porn is not categorically one or the other, but rather certain aspects of it are one and other aspects are the other.

156 posted on 05/24/2005 2:44:02 PM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: TightyRighty
So what does your wife do while you watch your porn? Srubbing the toilets

Some of us watch porn with our significant others.....

157 posted on 05/24/2005 2:44:23 PM PDT by Modernman ("Laws are like sausages, it is better not to see them being made. " -Bismarck)
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To: CHARLITE

“I’ve never met a police officer yet who investigated a pedophile that did not find pornography. Every one of them said pornography is always on the scene.”


NOTICE!!! In addition, the profiling has been expanded: They had all eaten at Mcdonald's, had drivers licenses, knew someone who owned a dog, lived in a district that had a public school, and had looked at at least one religious place of worship with their own eyes.

Gotta stop all that too.

I can't wait until we get all the laws passed that ban anything that anybody considers hate speech either. Gotta get rid of all that durn freedum stuff. Leeve that in-tee-lek-shul deesision stuff to them xsperts.


158 posted on 05/24/2005 2:44:45 PM PDT by HighWheeler (The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left. Ecclesiastes10:2)
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To: AntiGuv

That is incorrect. God is an Absolute, the Bible is an absolute and the teachings are an absolute. So if God tells you what is right and wrong, who are you to decide which is false and invalid?


159 posted on 05/24/2005 2:45:20 PM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (Have you gotten your Viking Kittie Patch today? http://www.visualops.com/patch.html)
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To: Zavien Doombringer
That is incorrect. God is an Absolute, the Bible is an absolute and the teachings are an absolute. So if God tells you what is right and wrong, who are you to decide which is false and invalid?

That is your opinion. I regard your opinion as false and invalid. Absolutely so.

161 posted on 05/24/2005 2:46:13 PM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: chris1
These guys, including myself, are tired of hearing the same old tired excuses and find it easier to watch porn than to beg for sex from their wife who would find it more pleasing to go visit her parents or spend time with her friends' kids or something.

It sounds like you just plain stink in the bedroom! Maybe you need lessons or something because it sounds like the porn ain't teaching you anything.

162 posted on 05/24/2005 2:46:15 PM PDT by TightyRighty
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To: k2blader
So according to you, anyone who believes porn is immoral is the "Christian Taliban".

Don't be a twit.

You are free to hold any view on any topic you so choose. Just don't force me to hold the same viewpoint.

Folks like you are no better than the worst leftist scum.

And Heaven is full of folks just like you, huh?

163 posted on 05/24/2005 2:46:17 PM PDT by Freebird Forever
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To: conserv13; Andrew LB

I like porn




Do you watch it with your children and grandchildren?


164 posted on 05/24/2005 2:46:27 PM PDT by WKB (You can half the good and double the bad people say about themselves.)
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To: BearWash
...particular gift from Satan.

Are you saying porn is a gift from Satan?

Thanks Satan!

165 posted on 05/24/2005 2:46:34 PM PDT by conserv13
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To: AntiGuv

secondly, Porn is not good in any context. Therefore, by an absolute, is porn bad or is it good? What is bad cannot be good, not in part but the whole.


166 posted on 05/24/2005 2:46:53 PM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (Have you gotten your Viking Kittie Patch today? http://www.visualops.com/patch.html)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
I think the logic here is that, since all pedophiles look at porn, anybody who looks at porn is a potential pedophile.

And since Ted Bundy looked at porn, everybody who looks at porn is a potential serial killer.

Do I have that right?

Yup! You've got it... That's why when a man with a penis rapes a woman, then all men are potential rapists (per Catherine McKinnon/Andrea Dworkin). Since all female prostitutes have vaginas, all women are potential prostitues.

That's the way these people think.

Mark

167 posted on 05/24/2005 2:47:14 PM PDT by MarkL (I've got a fever, and the only prescription is MORE COWBELL!!!)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
As the article says, a fleeting though [sic] gives way to fantacizing which in turn gives way to pornography which gives way to obsessing which leads to rape and child molesting.

Well, obviously by your logic above, we need to outlaw fleeting thoughts. We should pay especially close attention to our friends and family, and if we see one of them having any fleeting thoughts, we should kill them.

168 posted on 05/24/2005 2:49:01 PM PDT by Melas
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To: Blood of Tyrants
If the fear of the law doesn't stop them, then the law must be much harsher. I'll volunteer for the firing squad and provide my own gun and ammo.

Apply that same plan of action to gun control and you won't be able to provide your own gun and ammo.

169 posted on 05/24/2005 2:49:13 PM PDT by Antonello
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To: Modernman

Yes, thanks for sharing but I was addressing someone who seems to have chronic problems in the bedroom.


170 posted on 05/24/2005 2:49:23 PM PDT by TightyRighty
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To: AntiGuv
hmm, in any case, you are entitled to your opinion.

However you don't believe in absolutes then. God is the supreme absolute. to not believe in God, you don't have a standard for truth.

171 posted on 05/24/2005 2:49:27 PM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (Have you gotten your Viking Kittie Patch today? http://www.visualops.com/patch.html)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
I too enjoy watching damaged, molested girls coked or tweaked out of their minds...

I go to the strip clubs for that.

172 posted on 05/24/2005 2:49:54 PM PDT by conserv13
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To: Zavien Doombringer

If your definition of cheating is focsung attention away, how about all the attention so many women divert from their husbands in favor of the following:

1. Shopping;
2. Visiting friends and their kids constantly;
3. etc etc.

Most guys will agree with me that they, not the woman, if often the one with the short end of the stick in this department and are left hanging whewn it comes to their needs being met, not the other way around.
How many guys ever say the following:

1. I can't I have a headache (See a doctor)
2. I can't I'm tired (That's funny, you seemed fine running around the mall)

3. I can't I'm not in the mood (Can't you make a better excuse than that?)

4. I can't I'm busy. (Boy, updating your PDA really must be vital!)

And on and on and on. And you question me? Ha!

Ask a guy to be honest with you and he will tell you exactly the same as I am.

By the way, I never looked at woman with the hope or desire that she would help me cheat. I don't cheat, period.


173 posted on 05/24/2005 2:50:29 PM PDT by chris1 ("Make the other guy die for his country" - George S. Patton Jr.)
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To: steve-b

No, I did not and it is absurd to even think that.


174 posted on 05/24/2005 2:50:58 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: CHARLITE
A crowd of people gathered on Capitol Hill last Thursday to hear experts* in obscenity law and sexual crimes speak

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Encourage your local and national representatives to make laws to protect Americans from obscenity.

Perhaps these experts* can tell me under what Constituionally enumerated power I should be encouraging my representative to have the national government enact pornography legislation.

175 posted on 05/24/2005 2:51:21 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Zavien Doombringer
secondly, Porn is not good in any context.

That is your opinion. I regard your opinion as absolutely false and invalid. If you think you can persuade me otherwise, then feel free to present a rational argument to that end.

Therefore, by an absolute, is porn bad or is it good?

Porn as a class is not one or the other. I already said that. Just as sex as a class is not one or the other, or driving as a class is not one or the other, or if we want to get silly, trees as a class are not one or the other.

What is bad cannot be good, not in part but the whole.

Obviously you are wrong. That is because your opinion is false and invalid and moreover because you are presenting a circular false dilemma. My response just above clearly and rationally illustrates why this final statement is false and invalid.

176 posted on 05/24/2005 2:51:22 PM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: Freebird Forever
The term "Christian Taliban" is exactly the same rhetoric we see from the worst leftist scum, so the statement stands.

And Heaven is full of folks just like you, huh?

Maybe. If I can I'll let you know when I get there. :-)

177 posted on 05/24/2005 2:51:25 PM PDT by k2blader ("A kingdom of conscience ... That is what lies at the end of Crusade.")
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To: WKB
Do you watch it with your children and grandchildren?

Do you give your kids scotch to drink or give them your cigars?

Or, could it be that some things in this world aren't meant for kids?

178 posted on 05/24/2005 2:51:27 PM PDT by Modernman ("Laws are like sausages, it is better not to see them being made. " -Bismarck)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Puh-leeze -- a half-dozen people all independently infer the same thing, and you deny that you implied it?


179 posted on 05/24/2005 2:51:48 PM PDT by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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To: judgeandjury

I know that, but tell that to a man whose every once of life and biology tells him differently?


180 posted on 05/24/2005 2:52:00 PM PDT by chris1 ("Make the other guy die for his country" - George S. Patton Jr.)
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To: WKB
Do you watch it with your children and grandchildren?

Of course not.

181 posted on 05/24/2005 2:52:41 PM PDT by conserv13
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To: Zavien Doombringer
This shows the ignorance you have with the Christian Faith.

Hardly. I am fully aware of what is written in the Bible.

Faith is a personal thing. "Gorilla pimping" someone else to accept the beliefs of another is Talibanesque.

182 posted on 05/24/2005 2:52:55 PM PDT by Freebird Forever
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To: chris1
I had a huge discussion with my guy friends about this, some married, some not. We came to the conclusion that most guys in their late 20's, 30's and 40's who watch porn are probably doing so because their sex life stinks and they are not getting enough from their significant other. These guys, including myself, are tired of hearing the same old tired excuses and find it easier to watch porn than to beg for sex from their wife who would find it more pleasing to go visit her parents or spend time with her friends' kids or something.

Nah, to be perfectly honest, you're looking for excuses. More specifically, you're shifting the blame. You're rationalizing your behavior, and actually blaming it on your wives or girlfriends. You'd be better off if you just admitted you like porn.

I don't dislike porn. I could lie down next to it and go to sleep. I just don't find it particularly arousing, and that really has nothing to do with how much sex I'm getting at home. I don't watch sports either. I think I just lack the spectator mentality, period.

183 posted on 05/24/2005 2:53:12 PM PDT by Melas
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To: Zavien Doombringer

Sorry, wrong again!!!! She actually finds it interesting and it helps add spice to our life. Sometimes we just joke at it.


184 posted on 05/24/2005 2:54:14 PM PDT by chris1 ("Make the other guy die for his country" - George S. Patton Jr.)
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To: Zavien Doombringer
hmm, in any case, you are entitled to your opinion.

Of course, that is true by consensus, but two mutually contradictory opinions cannot both be correct and valid (they can also both be wrong). My previous post demonstrates why at least yours is not, at least in part.

However you don't believe in absolutes then.

That is false, and demonstrably so. It is also demonstrably true that you should know that this is false, since you have clearly been informed of that. The last time I checked your creed condemns lying. Who is the alleged prince of lies? ;)

God is the supreme absolute. to not believe in God, you don't have a standard for truth.

That is your opinion. I regard your opinion as absolutely false and invalid.

185 posted on 05/24/2005 2:54:27 PM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: chris1
And you won't find too many guys trailing behind these women on outings either?

I can guarrantee you if men gave thier women the attention they crave and deserve then you wouldn't find those excuses i.e. headache, tired, etc.

You really need to learn more about your woman. I see you think you have it figured out.

Justifying the sin with lame excuses is easy, after all, Adam blamed Eve for his sin.

186 posted on 05/24/2005 2:54:35 PM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (Have you gotten your Viking Kittie Patch today? http://www.visualops.com/patch.html)
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To: Modernman

Give it time the thread is still young.


187 posted on 05/24/2005 2:54:55 PM PDT by Melas
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To: WKB

Comments like that must come from a twisted mind. I'm a responsible 26 year old adult and can look at legal adult material all I want. So can my girlfriend, who likes porn also.


188 posted on 05/24/2005 2:55:33 PM PDT by Andrew LB (Another solder in the fight against liberalism.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Pornography gives way to rape and pedophilia?

OK... You know what, I've seen plenty of porn and have yet to commit rape or sexually assault a child. I have this thing for adult women, consenting adult women.

Sorry to shatter your misconceptions.


189 posted on 05/24/2005 2:56:26 PM PDT by StoneColdGOP ("The Republican Party is the France of politics" - Laz)
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To: Freebird Forever
Hmm, I for one do not "gorilla pimp". But taliban style is not the proper way to address it. NO one that I know of is getting killed for not converting, or the women having to cover themselves....

Sure there are some that are extremist... I count them as looney, they aren't working for the Lord, but actually driving people away from Him. They spout scripture as if they wrote the Bible. That doesn't matter to me, Satan knows everyword too...

190 posted on 05/24/2005 2:57:18 PM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (Have you gotten your Viking Kittie Patch today? http://www.visualops.com/patch.html)
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To: TightyRighty

Absolutely not, I am telling you based upon my conversations and discussions with close friends, we came up with the same consensus.

I refer you to Dr. Laura's book about men as evidence, not my anecdotal claims. She hit the nail on the head so dead on with that book based on interviews with 3500 men. Were they all wrong too?

She was crucified over that book! Unfairly, of course.


191 posted on 05/24/2005 2:57:26 PM PDT by chris1 ("Make the other guy die for his country" - George S. Patton Jr.)
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To: Freebird Forever
Incrementalism.

Uh. OK.

192 posted on 05/24/2005 2:57:45 PM PDT by Skooz (Admit Nothing. Deny Everything. Make Counter Accusations.)
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To: Helms

Good job there, Minister Goebbels.


193 posted on 05/24/2005 2:58:09 PM PDT by StoneColdGOP ("The Republican Party is the France of politics" - Laz)
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To: CHARLITE
“The purveyors of pornography repeatedly challenge us to prove that pornography causes violent crime,” said Rep. Harris. “I challenge them to prove that it does not.”

Ah geez, another dimwit in office. Yikes.

194 posted on 05/24/2005 2:59:06 PM PDT by TheOtherOne
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To: AntiGuv

Hmm, this is like someone hitting you in the head with a baseball bat and you are telling yourself it's a feather. In reality, you and I are going to die, that is the extreme absolute.


195 posted on 05/24/2005 2:59:11 PM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (Have you gotten your Viking Kittie Patch today? http://www.visualops.com/patch.html)
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To: StoneColdGOP

I agree. People really have some wild misconceptions don't they?


196 posted on 05/24/2005 3:00:00 PM PDT by Andrew LB (Another solder in the fight against liberalism.)
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To: CHARLITE

“No one gets addicted to The Washington Post. No one gets addicted to James Joyce [author of Ulysses, a book with some erotic scenes].”


I love my porn, but I am far more addicted to FR.


197 posted on 05/24/2005 3:00:46 PM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: Melas

I don't mind watching porn if that is the question. As far as excuse, I am not trying to blame anyone, but trying to describe a dynamic that many many guys I know seem to experience.

Its seems to me that many guys and females do try in the beginning to give the tit for tat as far as attention goes, but somewhere one seems to give more and the other seems to get less.

It could be a human thing I guess, just what is told to me.


198 posted on 05/24/2005 3:01:03 PM PDT by chris1 ("Make the other guy die for his country" - George S. Patton Jr.)
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To: StoneColdGOP

Ok, so you aren't effected by porn as some.


199 posted on 05/24/2005 3:01:34 PM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (Have you gotten your Viking Kittie Patch today? http://www.visualops.com/patch.html)
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To: Bella_Bru

Bella Bru just got told to shut up on another thread concerning rape and torture of children.


200 posted on 05/24/2005 3:01:47 PM PDT by squarebarb
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