Skip to comments.What the ‘Average Joe’ Can Do About Porn…and Why - (caution; for adult readers only)
Posted on 05/24/2005 1:42:28 PM PDT by CHARLITE
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Naturally that is true. Therefore, it is clear in my statement that I regard the typical Christian formulation of moral absolutism as absolutely false and invalid.
If you are planning on shooting everyone who looks at porn I hope you have a lot of bullets.
So what does your wife do while you watch your porn? Srubbing the toilets?
LOL -- even the DUmmies, normally masters at anti-Freeper invective, don't scale that height of venom.
As far as the government is concerned, I don't want them in my house or my life.
Nobody has a right to tell you what to do
As far as assumptions, why don't you ask her how she feels about you viewing porn. She will answer the way most do...They don't like it.
Naturally that is inherent within my statements. And equally so that porn is not categorically one or the other, but rather certain aspects of it are one and other aspects are the other.
Some of us watch porn with our significant others.....
Ive never met a police officer yet who investigated a pedophile that did not find pornography. Every one of them said pornography is always on the scene.
NOTICE!!! In addition, the profiling has been expanded: They had all eaten at Mcdonald's, had drivers licenses, knew someone who owned a dog, lived in a district that had a public school, and had looked at at least one religious place of worship with their own eyes.
Gotta stop all that too.
I can't wait until we get all the laws passed that ban anything that anybody considers hate speech either. Gotta get rid of all that durn freedum stuff. Leeve that in-tee-lek-shul deesision stuff to them xsperts.
That is incorrect. God is an Absolute, the Bible is an absolute and the teachings are an absolute. So if God tells you what is right and wrong, who are you to decide which is false and invalid?
That is your opinion. I regard your opinion as false and invalid. Absolutely so.
It sounds like you just plain stink in the bedroom! Maybe you need lessons or something because it sounds like the porn ain't teaching you anything.
Don't be a twit.
You are free to hold any view on any topic you so choose. Just don't force me to hold the same viewpoint.
Folks like you are no better than the worst leftist scum.
And Heaven is full of folks just like you, huh?
I like porn
Do you watch it with your children and grandchildren?
Are you saying porn is a gift from Satan?
secondly, Porn is not good in any context. Therefore, by an absolute, is porn bad or is it good? What is bad cannot be good, not in part but the whole.
And since Ted Bundy looked at porn, everybody who looks at porn is a potential serial killer.
Do I have that right?
Yup! You've got it... That's why when a man with a penis rapes a woman, then all men are potential rapists (per Catherine McKinnon/Andrea Dworkin). Since all female prostitutes have vaginas, all women are potential prostitues.
That's the way these people think.
Well, obviously by your logic above, we need to outlaw fleeting thoughts. We should pay especially close attention to our friends and family, and if we see one of them having any fleeting thoughts, we should kill them.
Apply that same plan of action to gun control and you won't be able to provide your own gun and ammo.
Yes, thanks for sharing but I was addressing someone who seems to have chronic problems in the bedroom.
However you don't believe in absolutes then. God is the supreme absolute. to not believe in God, you don't have a standard for truth.
I go to the strip clubs for that.
If your definition of cheating is focsung attention away, how about all the attention so many women divert from their husbands in favor of the following:
2. Visiting friends and their kids constantly;
3. etc etc.
Most guys will agree with me that they, not the woman, if often the one with the short end of the stick in this department and are left hanging whewn it comes to their needs being met, not the other way around.
How many guys ever say the following:
1. I can't I have a headache (See a doctor)
2. I can't I'm tired (That's funny, you seemed fine running around the mall)
3. I can't I'm not in the mood (Can't you make a better excuse than that?)
4. I can't I'm busy. (Boy, updating your PDA really must be vital!)
And on and on and on. And you question me? Ha!
Ask a guy to be honest with you and he will tell you exactly the same as I am.
By the way, I never looked at woman with the hope or desire that she would help me cheat. I don't cheat, period.
No, I did not and it is absurd to even think that.
Encourage your local and national representatives to make laws to protect Americans from obscenity.
Perhaps these experts* can tell me under what Constituionally enumerated power I should be encouraging my representative to have the national government enact pornography legislation.
That is your opinion. I regard your opinion as absolutely false and invalid. If you think you can persuade me otherwise, then feel free to present a rational argument to that end.
Therefore, by an absolute, is porn bad or is it good?
Porn as a class is not one or the other. I already said that. Just as sex as a class is not one or the other, or driving as a class is not one or the other, or if we want to get silly, trees as a class are not one or the other.
What is bad cannot be good, not in part but the whole.
Obviously you are wrong. That is because your opinion is false and invalid and moreover because you are presenting a circular false dilemma. My response just above clearly and rationally illustrates why this final statement is false and invalid.
And Heaven is full of folks just like you, huh?
Maybe. If I can I'll let you know when I get there. :-)
Do you give your kids scotch to drink or give them your cigars?
Or, could it be that some things in this world aren't meant for kids?
Puh-leeze -- a half-dozen people all independently infer the same thing, and you deny that you implied it?
I know that, but tell that to a man whose every once of life and biology tells him differently?
Of course not.
Hardly. I am fully aware of what is written in the Bible.
Faith is a personal thing. "Gorilla pimping" someone else to accept the beliefs of another is Talibanesque.
Nah, to be perfectly honest, you're looking for excuses. More specifically, you're shifting the blame. You're rationalizing your behavior, and actually blaming it on your wives or girlfriends. You'd be better off if you just admitted you like porn.
I don't dislike porn. I could lie down next to it and go to sleep. I just don't find it particularly arousing, and that really has nothing to do with how much sex I'm getting at home. I don't watch sports either. I think I just lack the spectator mentality, period.
Sorry, wrong again!!!! She actually finds it interesting and it helps add spice to our life. Sometimes we just joke at it.
Of course, that is true by consensus, but two mutually contradictory opinions cannot both be correct and valid (they can also both be wrong). My previous post demonstrates why at least yours is not, at least in part.
However you don't believe in absolutes then.
That is false, and demonstrably so. It is also demonstrably true that you should know that this is false, since you have clearly been informed of that. The last time I checked your creed condemns lying. Who is the alleged prince of lies? ;)
God is the supreme absolute. to not believe in God, you don't have a standard for truth.
That is your opinion. I regard your opinion as absolutely false and invalid.
I can guarrantee you if men gave thier women the attention they crave and deserve then you wouldn't find those excuses i.e. headache, tired, etc.
You really need to learn more about your woman. I see you think you have it figured out.
Justifying the sin with lame excuses is easy, after all, Adam blamed Eve for his sin.
Give it time the thread is still young.
Comments like that must come from a twisted mind. I'm a responsible 26 year old adult and can look at legal adult material all I want. So can my girlfriend, who likes porn also.
Pornography gives way to rape and pedophilia?
OK... You know what, I've seen plenty of porn and have yet to commit rape or sexually assault a child. I have this thing for adult women, consenting adult women.
Sorry to shatter your misconceptions.
Sure there are some that are extremist... I count them as looney, they aren't working for the Lord, but actually driving people away from Him. They spout scripture as if they wrote the Bible. That doesn't matter to me, Satan knows everyword too...
Absolutely not, I am telling you based upon my conversations and discussions with close friends, we came up with the same consensus.
I refer you to Dr. Laura's book about men as evidence, not my anecdotal claims. She hit the nail on the head so dead on with that book based on interviews with 3500 men. Were they all wrong too?
She was crucified over that book! Unfairly, of course.
Good job there, Minister Goebbels.
Ah geez, another dimwit in office. Yikes.
Hmm, this is like someone hitting you in the head with a baseball bat and you are telling yourself it's a feather. In reality, you and I are going to die, that is the extreme absolute.
I agree. People really have some wild misconceptions don't they?
No one gets addicted to The Washington Post. No one gets addicted to James Joyce [author of Ulysses, a book with some erotic scenes].
I love my porn, but I am far more addicted to FR.
I don't mind watching porn if that is the question. As far as excuse, I am not trying to blame anyone, but trying to describe a dynamic that many many guys I know seem to experience.
Its seems to me that many guys and females do try in the beginning to give the tit for tat as far as attention goes, but somewhere one seems to give more and the other seems to get less.
It could be a human thing I guess, just what is told to me.
Ok, so you aren't effected by porn as some.
Bella Bru just got told to shut up on another thread concerning rape and torture of children.