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What the ‘Average Joe’ Can Do About Porn…and Why - (caution; for adult readers only)
CONCERNED WOMEN FOR AMERICA.ORG ^ | MAY 24, 2005 | SARA BRODE

Posted on 05/24/2005 1:42:28 PM PDT by CHARLITE

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To: k2blader

It's easier to ignore the inherent evil in something you enjoy rather than admit you're weak. That's what this is all about.

And I've watched plenty of the stuff. I just refuse to lie to myself about what it is.


52 posted on 05/24/2005 2:11:42 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard ("We'd rather have you dead than incapable" - The Church of Scientology)
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To: Bella_Bru

I meant to say "isn't" worth drooling over.


53 posted on 05/24/2005 2:11:48 PM PDT by tomahawk (http://tomahawkblog.blogspot.com/)
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To: Bella_Bru

I meant to say "isn't" worth drooling over.


54 posted on 05/24/2005 2:12:00 PM PDT by tomahawk (http://tomahawkblog.blogspot.com/)
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To: Strategerist

Did I say that? Did I even INFER that?


55 posted on 05/24/2005 2:12:00 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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56 posted on 05/24/2005 2:13:20 PM PDT by evets (God bless President Bush and VP Cheney)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

No, you didn't. Not even close.


57 posted on 05/24/2005 2:13:43 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard ("We'd rather have you dead than incapable" - The Church of Scientology)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Considering multiple people independently took you to infer that, then I'd say you inferred that.


58 posted on 05/24/2005 2:13:52 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Blood of Tyrants
moron jerkKeep bringing on that Christian love.

Yep, I'm a G-d hater. We Jews killed your Jebus, remember?

59 posted on 05/24/2005 2:13:56 PM PDT by Bella_Bru (In Mercuristan, such questions are not tolerated.)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
I just refuse to lie to myself about what it is.

Don't be coy. 'What is it?'

60 posted on 05/24/2005 2:14:02 PM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: Bella_Bru

61 posted on 05/24/2005 2:14:08 PM PDT by TheBigB (These aren't the droids you're looking for...)
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To: freebilly
I like porn

I like having real sex, but if like having your jollies on line more power to you....

He must be a Star Wars fan.

(caution; for adult readers only)

Why didn't it just read: All 16 year old boys - come see this thread!

62 posted on 05/24/2005 2:14:55 PM PDT by TightyRighty
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To: Blood of Tyrants
By reading your FReep page, I see that you are probably a God and Christian hater who sees what is the attempt to maintain decency in our society as somehow destroying your "right" to have anal sex with animals in public restrooms.

Wow, might want to have your meds adjusted there, buddy.

Hate to say it but like many of the homo-bashing threads I have to really suspect that the ones with all the energy about it are people that are having trouble repressing their own urges.

63 posted on 05/24/2005 2:15:40 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Clemenza

Hey - what's up. We actually had a four hour conversation about this, not in the gutter, but truthful.

Dr. Laura's last book was 100% right on and she was attacked for it. Men watch porn and go to strip clubs because most women want men to turn their biology off. People will always look for an outlet.


64 posted on 05/24/2005 2:15:44 PM PDT by chris1 ("Make the other guy die for his country" - George S. Patton Jr.)
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To: Gone GF
And the Ted Bundy stuff was debunked long ago.

Got a source for that? Not calling BS, just like to follow up.

65 posted on 05/24/2005 2:15:56 PM PDT by Horatio Gates (Mullah al-Whipple says,"Don't squeeze the Koran." Safe for septic sytems.)
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To: Strategerist; Blood of Tyrants
Considering multiple people independently took you to infer that, then I'd say you inferred that.

Yep, the inference is undeniably and transparently self-evident in the text. At best, what was written was not what was meant to be written....

66 posted on 05/24/2005 2:15:59 PM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: CHARLITE
Just wanted to add that what is probably most troubling is that there are people who claim to be Christian but think porn is no big deal. Maybe there are some of those on this very thread. It's just goes to show how deeply the Church has failed the Lord in certain areas. Repentance is long overdue.
67 posted on 05/24/2005 2:16:21 PM PDT by k2blader ("A kingdom of conscience ... That is what lies at the end of Crusade.")
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To: Blood of Tyrants; WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
Actually, yes he did infer it

From his first post on this thread: As the article says, a fleeting though gives way to fantacizing which in turn gives way to pornography which gives way to obsessing which leads to rape and child molesting.

68 posted on 05/24/2005 2:16:36 PM PDT by Bella_Bru (In Mercuristan, such questions are not tolerated.)
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To: Bella_Bru
Uh, and where did you get that?!

Nowhere in that post suggests that

69 posted on 05/24/2005 2:17:43 PM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (Have you gotten your Viking Kittie Patch today? http://www.visualops.com/patch.html)
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To: CHARLITE

LOL!

This thread may have set a record for the most venomous vitriol posted in the shortest time in the history of FR.

Party on, party people.


70 posted on 05/24/2005 2:18:01 PM PDT by Skooz (Admit Nothing. Deny Everything. Make Counter Accusations.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
And you are a total moron to believe that porn has NOTHING to do with child pornograhy.

Legal porn and child porn are completely different. Nobody on these threads is defending kiddie porn.

who sees what is the attempt to maintain decency in our society as somehow destroying your "right" to have anal sex with animals in public restrooms.

You're foaming at the mouth, I fear. Nobody at FR has ever defended such behavior.

Before this goes any further, let's define our terms: the only legal type of porn is porn that is privately viewed by consenting adults and that involves only consenting adults in its production.

71 posted on 05/24/2005 2:18:07 PM PDT by Modernman ("Laws are like sausages, it is better not to see them being made. " -Bismarck)
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To: Bella_Bru

And that is true for those with weak minds and cannot control thier inhibitions...


72 posted on 05/24/2005 2:18:24 PM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (Have you gotten your Viking Kittie Patch today? http://www.visualops.com/patch.html)
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To: AntiGuv
Yep, the inference is undeniably and transparently self-evident in the text

My thoughts exactly. It's kind of hard to deny what's plainly written.

73 posted on 05/24/2005 2:18:53 PM PDT by gdani
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To: conserv13
I was going to add that if your preaching to Freepers, you're barking up the wrong tree...

there's a group freepers who are hypocritical sociopaths, that want everybody to tow the line except just don't pick on their perversions....

If only they had sons in the gay porn field.....we might see an attitude change...maybe if they had young teenage sons stripping for the local gay bar....

74 posted on 05/24/2005 2:18:56 PM PDT by cherry
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To: LogicalMs

You want violation of the rights of others - how about all the women and children who are forced into sex slavery because of pornography. You can make all the excuses you want for it, but porn is destructive and just plain wrong before God.


75 posted on 05/24/2005 2:19:04 PM PDT by arjay (If the NYT is against it, it must be good for America.)
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To: Strategerist

It was easy. You took the Lord's prayer and mocked it by putting in your own little dig against the government making laws about moral behavior. I am not stupid and you are an apoligist for pornography.


76 posted on 05/24/2005 2:19:24 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: Zavien Doombringer
a fleeting though gives way to fantacizing which in turn gives way to pornography which gives way to obsessing which leads to rape and child molesting.

So then there is nothing wrong with fantasy or porn, right?

You can't have it both ways. Either his statement was saying a fleeting thought ends up at rape and child molestation, or nothing in his comment is related.

77 posted on 05/24/2005 2:19:47 PM PDT by Bella_Bru (In Mercuristan, such questions are not tolerated.)
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To: shotokan

Don't have the source offhand, but I remember reading about it (remember Bundy was a very, very slick psychopath who was very good at manipulating people and telling them what they want)...

IIRC The stuff about Bundy and porn was the result of some fundivangelist minister interviewing Bundy and Bundy telling the minister what he wanted to hear.


78 posted on 05/24/2005 2:20:17 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: cherry

Teenage sons stripping for the local gay bar is illegal.


79 posted on 05/24/2005 2:21:18 PM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
It was easy. You took the Lord's prayer and mocked it by putting in your own little dig against the government making laws about moral behavior. I am not stupid and you are an apoligist for pornography.

I believe you have me confused with someone else.

80 posted on 05/24/2005 2:21:21 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Strategerist

Then you are apparently too close to pornography to have an objective opinion.


81 posted on 05/24/2005 2:21:35 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: balch3
Plenty of RINO porn apologists on this thread

Pretty strong words from a newbie. You should bear in mind that not everyone who votes Republican is a member of the Christian Taliban.

82 posted on 05/24/2005 2:22:35 PM PDT by Freebird Forever
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To: cherry
there's a group freepers who are hypocritical sociopaths, that want everybody to tow the line except just don't pick on their perversions....

Hypocrites? How so?

If only they had sons in the gay porn field.....we might see an attitude change.

If I had sons who were alcoholics, I wouldn't demand that alcohol be banned. Same with porn.

maybe if they had young teenage sons stripping for the local gay bar....

That, of course, would be illegal. Once they become adults, though, I wouldn't rely on the law to protect them from themselves.

83 posted on 05/24/2005 2:22:39 PM PDT by Modernman ("Laws are like sausages, it is better not to see them being made. " -Bismarck)
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To: Bella_Bru

Who is Jebus? And BTW, you couldn't kill Him if he hadn't allowed it.


84 posted on 05/24/2005 2:22:46 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

BWAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAH! What a dumbass you are. The 'Prayer For the State" was created by OWK and is not a parody the Lord's Prayer anyway. Damn you are dumb.


85 posted on 05/24/2005 2:22:51 PM PDT by Bella_Bru (In Mercuristan, such questions are not tolerated.)
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To: arjay
You want violation of the rights of others - how about all the women and children who are forced into sex slavery because of pornography.

Anyone who forces others to have sex against their will is comitting a crime. What's your point?

86 posted on 05/24/2005 2:23:29 PM PDT by Modernman ("Laws are like sausages, it is better not to see them being made. " -Bismarck)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Call me a G-d hater again, slanderous worm.


87 posted on 05/24/2005 2:23:34 PM PDT by Bella_Bru (In Mercuristan, such questions are not tolerated.)
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To: Freebird Forever

Christian Taliban?

Know any Christians who have executed women for walking out the front door without a male escort?

I didn't think so.


88 posted on 05/24/2005 2:23:53 PM PDT by Skooz (Admit Nothing. Deny Everything. Make Counter Accusations.)
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To: arjay

How do you know? Maybe some of your beliefs are wrong before God. Child porn is disgusting, vile, and illegal. You can't impose your personal sense of morality on people where the act you are complaining of does not violate other peoples' rights, regardless of your personal belief.

If you don't like it, don't watch it. At the same time, just because you don't like it, don't stop me from watching it. Some of you guys here are so hypocritical. You want Uncle Sam to say nothing about gun control, etc etc, but as soon as porn comes up you scream for the Gov't to regulate our lives.


89 posted on 05/24/2005 2:23:55 PM PDT by chris1 ("Make the other guy die for his country" - George S. Patton Jr.)
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To: balch3

Not porn apologists. It's more like not wanting someone else to dictate what we can or cannot read or view.


90 posted on 05/24/2005 2:24:07 PM PDT by Junior (“Even if you are one-in-a-million, there are still 6,000 others just like you.”)
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To: chris1
We came to the conclusion that most guys in their late 20's, 30's and 40's who watch porn are probably doing so because their sex life stinks and they are not getting enough from their significant other. These guys, including myself, are tired of hearing the same old tired excuses and find it easier to watch porn than to beg for sex from their wife who would find it more pleasing to go visit her parents or spend time with her friends' kids or something.

Life in the fantasy world is free of the risk of rejection that has to be faced in the real world. In fanatasy world you're always the king, every whim is fulfilled ...

In the real world it's having a decent relationship with your wife/gf/S.O is hard, and sometimes painful, work.

Having spent years in fantasy world before doing the hard, painful work intimate relationship requires, I'll take the later.

In my porn fueled fantasy world there was never any risk of rejection. The real world, however, was the only place where the acceptance I was really after, warts and all, and coming from another human being, was possible.

I'm never going back.

91 posted on 05/24/2005 2:24:23 PM PDT by tx_eggman (Liberalism is only possible in that moment when a man chooses Barabas over Christ.)
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To: CHARLITE

What do these people have against Orgasms?


92 posted on 05/24/2005 2:24:34 PM PDT by Husker24
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To: Bella_Bru
I read his first post, and it didn't come close to your wildly exaggerated interpretation of it.
93 posted on 05/24/2005 2:24:35 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard ("We'd rather have you dead than incapable" - The Church of Scientology)
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To: Bella_Bru
The 'Prayer For the State" was created by OWK ...

The Other World Kingdom..................???????

94 posted on 05/24/2005 2:24:52 PM PDT by Skooz (Admit Nothing. Deny Everything. Make Counter Accusations.)
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To: CHARLITE
tsk.

water is found in every carcinoma and sarcoma, thus: water causes cancer.

that's what their arguments generally boil down to.

by all means: let the government crack down on slave-trading, pimping, child-pornography, etc (all, btw, already illegal)... leave the entirely adult and entirely consensual stuff alone.

95 posted on 05/24/2005 2:25:17 PM PDT by King Prout (blast and char it among fetid buzzard guts!)
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To: Bella_Bru

Please excuse me. You stole Psalms 23 and used a prayer and praise to God to support your haterd of anyone DARING to tell you that you are wrong.


96 posted on 05/24/2005 2:25:32 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: CHARLITE
"The purveyors of pornography repeatedly challenge us to prove that pornography causes violent crime," said Rep. Harris. "I challenge them to prove that it does not."

Rep. Harris, I challenge you to prove that you are not a deep-cover al-Qaeda agent -- hell, I challenge you to prove that you are not a deep-cover spy for an invading force of space aliens.

How do imbeciles like this get into positions of responsibility?

98 posted on 05/24/2005 2:25:32 PM PDT by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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To: Bella_Bru
Actually, Porn is wrong, it denegrates women, it brings on the animal instinct and those that cannot control thier "urges" results in someone getting hurt. Porn hurts someone, somewhere.

I for one do not like Porn, have I seen it, yep and who hasn't at one time. For some, porn starts in the bra ads in the newspaper, for others it starts in the Victoria Secret Catalog or Frederick's of Hollywood.

It is progressive, and it does lead to deviant behavior. It is also a mockery to God's creation, if you are a Jew, as you stated you were in an earlier post, then this topic is off limits for you as well. God said to not participate in it because of the problems it creates in the future.

Fantasy... Jesus said on the Mount, if you think of a woman with lustful thoughts, you have commited adultery already. YOu think it, you fantasize about it, then you will eventually do it.

99 posted on 05/24/2005 2:25:51 PM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (Have you gotten your Viking Kittie Patch today? http://www.visualops.com/patch.html)
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To: Strategerist

Sorry. I got confused.


100 posted on 05/24/2005 2:26:08 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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