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Trial over Italian Islam 'insult'
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Posted on 05/24/2005 5:48:00 PM PDT by Alex Marko

Controversial Italian journalist Oriana Fallaci is to face trial for allegedly insulting the Muslim faith in her latest book, a court in Italy says. Ms Fallaci is being sued by the head of the Muslim Union of Italy, who says The Force of Reason is defamatory.

The journalist caused an uproar with The Rage and the Pride, published two weeks after the 11 September attacks.

In it, she said Western culture was superior to Islam and Muslim immigrants in the West had "multiplied like rats".

Her lawyers have defended her right to express controversial opinions.

"At the heart of her thinking is the following reasoning: the fight against Islamic terrorism is made more difficult by intellectual terrorism cloaked in anti-racism," Gilles Goldhagen, said in 2002, when a French judge was hearing a case to ban The Rage and the Pride.

'No good Islam'

The Force of Reason is said to have gone to print about 24 hours after the 11 March 2004 train bombings in Spain.

In it, Ms Fallaci argues that Europe is turning into "an Islamic province, an Islamic colony" and that "to believe that a good Islam and a bad Islam exist goes against all reason".

Italian preliminary investigative judge Armando Grasso ordered the formulation of charges against the author, saying the book had expressions which were "unequivocally offensive to Islam".

Adel Smith, president of the Muslim Union of Italy, sued the writer on 8 April 2004. He says Ms Fallaci has been advocating and spreading hate against Islam and Muslims, sometimes by allegedly distorting real historical facts and inventing others.

The case is being tried in the northern town of Bergamo, where the book was published. The prosecution has 10 days to come up with a charge.

Ms Fallaci, who lives in New York, was a Resistance fighter in World War II and a former war correspondent.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 1stamendment; 2ndamendment; cary; christianity; fallaci; forceofreason; islam; italy; truthhurts
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1 posted on 05/24/2005 5:48:00 PM PDT by Alex Marko
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To: Alex Marko

Seems to me she ought to be able to come up with gazillions of examples of Islamic insults to everyone else in the world, and put together one mother of a countersuit.


2 posted on 05/24/2005 5:49:19 PM PDT by william clark
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To: william clark

This woman sounds like marriage material :)


3 posted on 05/24/2005 5:50:32 PM PDT by 1FASTGLOCK45 (FreeRepublic: More fun than watching Dem'Rats drown like Turkeys in the rain! ! !)
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To: 1FASTGLOCK45
She should have written "... multiplied like feral pigs..." that would have really "got their goat"
4 posted on 05/24/2005 5:53:26 PM PDT by xcamel (Deep Red, stuck in a "bleu" state.)
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To: 1FASTGLOCK45

She is one fabulous woman! I have always loved Orianna!
Hope you don't want to have kids.. she's in her late seventies and smokes like the Vatican chimney on a great day!


5 posted on 05/24/2005 5:53:34 PM PDT by acapesket (never had a vote count in all my years here)
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To: Alex Marko

Sixteen years ago, Europe was outraged by the death sentence put upon Salman Rushdie by Khomeini for his "blasphemous" writings.

Europe is so progressive now that its own legal systems (in this case instigated by what seems to be a native-born Italian prosecutor) are doing the dirty work of the Muslims.

Has anyone heard any outrage over this by the MSM?


6 posted on 05/24/2005 5:56:12 PM PDT by LibFreeOrDie (L'chaim!)
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To: xcamel
She should have written "... multiplied like feral pigs..." that would have really "got their goat"

Or published something like this:

The Three Billygoats Gruff

Many years ago, in the Khwarism kingdom, the empire centered around the cities of Samarkand, Bukhara, and Gurgange in the territory now called Uzbekistan, there was a bridge across a narrow section of the Syr Daria river and this bridge was guarded by a troll, named Ali Mohammed Qa-eelbasi. This was before the padishah Mohammed of the Khwarism empire burned the beards off of four of the infidel dog Chengis Khan's ambassadors and Chengis Khan reduced that entire territory to a smoking ruin (may he who cannot take a joke endure Allah's curse).

Now, this Ali Mohammed Qa-eelbasi was quite wealthy by inheritance and by dint of clever investment strategies and stock trading and, having no need of money or wealth beyond his possessions, and being an islamic troll, rather than demanding money from travellers seeking to cross his bridge, was in the habit of demanding various other favors from them.

One morning while Ali Mohammed was guarding his bridge and attempting to catch fish in the Syr Daria, he heard the light clatter of little hooves on the wooden planks of his bridge and looked up to see a little billygoat traipsing across the bridge, trippity, clippity, clippity, trippity, and this little goat (Allah be praised!!) had glossy white fur and flowers in his mane, and was wearing a silk petticoat with what appeared to be lace panties underneath, Ali Mohammed could not be quite certain, and a little training bra from Bloomingdales', and had a coy smile upon his face.

"ALLAH BE PRAISED"!! shouted Ali Mohammed! Surely the faithful shall prosper, this must be my lucky day!!!!

And, the little goat looked at Ali Mohammed, the coy smile still on his lips, and said:

"Verily, I should be happy for you to have your way with me and ravish me to your heart's content but, were you to do that, you would then be too exhausted to appreciate my brother when he passes this way. He is only a short distance behind me and he is a larger, finer and more lovely goat than I; he buys ALL of his clothing from Victoria's Secret."

Now, when Ali Mohammed heard this, he was overcome with passion and desire, and could scarcely restrain himself; nonetheless, he replied: "Go then, with Allah's blessing", and allowed the little goat to cross the bridge unmolested. "I shall (eagerly) await your brother!"

Ali Mohammed went back to his efforts to catch fish and, about a half hour later, he heard a somewhat heavier fall of hooves across the wooden planks of his bridge: clippity cloppity clop, clippity cloppity clop, and Ali Mohammed looked up to a sight which aroused within him a veritable paroxism of passion. This was a larger goat with a gossamer veil over his face, red roses braided into his glossy white silky fur all around, a golden necklace and the thinnest sort of a purple gossamer bodice of finest khitan silk, and dark, brown bedroom eyes.

"ALLAH BE PRAISED!!!" shouted Ali Mohammed, "Verily, this must be the luckiest day of my life, for surely no troll has ever beheld so lovely, and desirable, and alluring a goat as thee!"

"Patience!" replied the goat. "Surely you might have me if you wish, but then you would be too exhausted to appreciate my eldest brother, who travels only a short distance behind me. He is the sexiest and most voluptuous and alluring goat in all the world, and he buys ALL of his clothing at Sexy Sadies Midnight Boutique. Verily, were he standing here beside me, you would not notice me at all!"

Ali Mohammed somehow or other managed to restrain his lust and passion and allowed this goat to pass as well and, after ten or twelve minutes when he collected his wits and got his pulse and breath back under control, returned to his fishing poles.

Now when the eldest brother amongst the three goats came up to the bridge over the Syr Daria river and walked upon its wooden planks, Ali Mohammed did not notice at first, because this goat's hooves, for some reason, made no noise. Ali Mohammed was in fact taken by complete surprise as this third goat walked up to within five feet before the troll ever saw him at all. This goat had a silken veil as did the second goat, and gossamer clothing but, underneath the gossamer, appeared to be a very strange goat indeed, yellowish with black stripes, a long tail, fearsome claws, and huge, very non-goatlike teeth. This third goat spoke these words:

Bless, O Lord, this food to my use and me to thy service, and make me ever mindful of the needs of others through Jesus Christ our Lord. Amen.

and, with that, seized the unlucky troll in his massive jaws, chewed him into bitesized pieces, and wolfed him down.
7 posted on 05/24/2005 5:56:22 PM PDT by tahotdog
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To: Alex Marko
Muslim Union of Italy = Italian version of CAIR perhaps.

Cretino !! Chiudi il becco !!

8 posted on 05/24/2005 5:58:06 PM PDT by Random Nonsense
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To: acapesket; xcamel

Wow,
a little above my age, but i'm sure she's got the guys lining up :)
I personally don't smoke much at all, just socially.
There is too much as too much of a good thing :)


9 posted on 05/24/2005 5:59:01 PM PDT by 1FASTGLOCK45 (FreeRepublic: More fun than watching Dem'Rats drown like Turkeys in the rain! ! !)
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To: 1FASTGLOCK45

Truely a great mind, I believe she has cancer though
she hasn't given up smoking...

This could really turn out to be a heck of a trial,
She is certainly fiesty enough.

Great writer too.


10 posted on 05/24/2005 6:02:50 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Alex Marko

I'm waiting for the inevitable reaction when someone names their state-fair-prize-winning hog "Muhammad".


11 posted on 05/24/2005 6:03:16 PM PDT by reg45
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To: acapesket; 1FASTGLOCK45

You beat me to it.

She is a Leftie that gets it, because she has always pursued the truth as a journalist.


12 posted on 05/24/2005 6:04:44 PM PDT by Roy Tucker
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To: Alex Marko
From Little Green Footballs sitte

(AGI) - L’Aquila, Italy, May 24 - In Oriana Fallaci’s book “The Force of Reason” there are expressions that are “unequivocally offensive to Islam and Muslims,” said the Bergamo preliminary investigative judge, Armando Grasso, who accepting the Adel Smith’s opposition to filing away the trial proposed by the prosecutor, ordered the prosecution to formulate the charge “according to article 406 of article 403 of the criminal code,” for defamation of Islam. The well known author, therefore, will be put on trial.

Adel Smith, president of the Italian Muslim Union, sued the writer on April 8, 2004, after “also in other writings Oriana Fallaci had propagated hate against Islam and Muslims, distorting real historical facts and inventing others, lying, offending, and defaming Muslims around the world. For the rest, ever since ”Anger and Pride“ the writer has injured Islam and Muslims, writing expressions such as ‘f*cking sons of Allah’,” said Smith.

The Bergamo Prosecution is taking on the trial, since the book was published in the city, and now has ten days to come up with a charge. The preliminary hearing judge will set the trial date. Matteo Nicoli of Verona will represent Adel Smith.

13 posted on 05/24/2005 6:04:52 PM PDT by listenhillary (If it ain't broke, it will be after the government tries to fix it)
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To: Alex Marko
Read the original Rage and Pride.

It is a brilliant masterpiece, and every word is a treasure.

Save it to your hard drive while you still can.

14 posted on 05/24/2005 6:04:53 PM PDT by Alouette (Muslims bite the hand that feeds them, and kiss the boot that kicks them.)
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To: Alex Marko

Sign me up! Well before 11 Sept 2001, I bought Salman Rushdie's The Satanic Verses specifically to spit in the eye of anyone who would issue a fatwa over a book. Being fairly ignorant of Islam at the time, I couldn't see what the big deal was as I read it.

Here's info on the 2 books mentioned in the article:

The Rage and the Pride
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0847825043/102-6484539-6719318?v=glance

The Force of Reason will be available 23 August, 2005
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0847827534/002-1940436-4456024?v=glance


15 posted on 05/24/2005 6:05:44 PM PDT by Titan Magroyne (Wet Burqa Contest Winner)
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To: Alex Marko
On trial for insulting Islam, huh?

I guess she's proven her point that Italy is now an Islamic fascist state.

16 posted on 05/24/2005 6:05:56 PM PDT by Reactionary
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To: reg45

What a GREAT BIG PORCINE IDEA! I sahll call my local 4-H tommorrow in time for the fall fair!


17 posted on 05/24/2005 6:06:05 PM PDT by acapesket (never had a vote count in all my years here)
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To: tet68

I hope she has Islamists for breakfast! :)


18 posted on 05/24/2005 6:06:10 PM PDT by 1FASTGLOCK45 (FreeRepublic: More fun than watching Dem'Rats drown like Turkeys in the rain! ! !)
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To: 1FASTGLOCK45; Calpernia
Adel Smith, president of the Muslim Union of Italy, sued the writer on 8 April 2004. He says Ms Fallaci has been advocating and spreading hate against Islam and Muslims, sometimes by allegedly distorting real historical facts and inventing others.

From another article about this: FALLACI TO GO ON TRIAL FOR DEFAMING ISLAM

... the writer has injured Islam and Muslims, writing expressions such as 'f___ing sons of Allah'," said Smith.

Calpernia, this article says "Ms Fallaci, who lives in New York, was a Resistance fighter in World War II and a former war correspondent."

I hope she's still here. I think it would be safer for her.

19 posted on 05/24/2005 6:08:06 PM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: acapesket

Is she the lady who said the only difference between a Muslim extremist and a moderate is the length of their beards?


20 posted on 05/24/2005 6:11:06 PM PDT by Americanexpat (A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
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