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Third arrest might seal future for Lionel Tate
Sun Sentinel ^ | May 25 2005 | Andrew Ryan and Paula McMahon

Posted on 05/25/2005 3:24:27 AM PDT by Caipirabob

Pembroke Park · Lionel Tate, who at 12 faced life in prison for murdering a playmate, may have squandered his freedom for four 14-inch pizzas.

The bill for the pies -- pepperoni and sausage, extra cheese, pineapple, and ham -- came to $33.60, according to a Domino's Pizza receipt.

Police say Tate placed the order from his 12-year-old friend's apartment Monday afternoon and forced his way back inside just before the pizza arrived, roughing up the boy before robbing the deliveryman with a .38-caliber revolver.

(Excerpt) Read more at sun-sentinel.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: crime; criminal; insane; lionel; psychokiller; tate
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He's the left's posterboy for single parenthood and family values.

He's "New and Improved" and he's Baaa-aaack!

Anyone surprised that someone who would brutally beat a sweet 6 year old child to death would turn out to be a thug?

I pray that the court system has the sense to remove this monster from society before he kills again.

Prayers for poor Tiffany and her family. May God give her and her family peace. It still hurts so bad to think about it.

1 posted on 05/25/2005 3:24:28 AM PDT by Caipirabob
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To: 2Am4Sure
Ping!

Thanks for yesterday's article.

2 posted on 05/25/2005 3:24:57 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Caipirabob
may have squandered his freedom for four 14-inch pizzas.

Oh BS. It wasn't for pizzas. It was for assault and armed robbery.

3 posted on 05/25/2005 3:27:56 AM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: Caipirabob

I watched this monster-in-training's trial on Court TV. He deserved much worse than he got, and I couldn't believe it when last year, Florida let him go free way ahead of schedule. This was so easy to predict....it's just very lucky he didn't kill someone again.


4 posted on 05/25/2005 3:29:02 AM PDT by YaYa123 (@Pity For The Perp Is Always Misguided.com)
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To: Caipirabob

He should have never left jail!


5 posted on 05/25/2005 3:29:32 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: Caipirabob
More here

Killer on Probation Held in Fla. Robbery

Quotes:

"I think they got the wrong guy," Tate's attorney, Jim Lewis, told The Miami Herald for Wednesday's editions. "Lionel told me he did not do this. ... He said he got there when it was all over."

Quote from Post article:

Tate had pizza smattered on his clothes when deputies from the Broward Sheriff's Office arrested him, said BSO spokeswoman Liz Calzadilla-Fiallo."

"If there's a 'pizza stain' you must detain" - Caipirabob

6 posted on 05/25/2005 3:30:43 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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To: hellinahandcart; YaYa123; kcvl
Second article linked above in post #6.

I just think the more who are aware of this the better chance he will never see daylight again.

7 posted on 05/25/2005 3:32:23 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Caipirabob
If he smells like ham, he's in a jam...
8 posted on 05/25/2005 3:49:28 AM PDT by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: Caipirabob

Who didn't see this coming except the Florida justice system...


9 posted on 05/25/2005 3:49:51 AM PDT by Rocketwolf68
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To: Caipirabob

Who didn't see this coming except the Florida justice system...


10 posted on 05/25/2005 3:50:28 AM PDT by Rocketwolf68
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To: Caipirabob

Lock this monster up and throw away the key. No parole.


11 posted on 05/25/2005 3:54:19 AM PDT by Riptides
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To: Caipirabob

Note how the Sun Sentinel manages to go on for two pages about this fellow, and never bothers to tell us his age. Peculiar, don't you think, since his age was central to his previous case.

Scanning the article, we get the age of his "friend" and the pizza delivery guy, but they must have just forgotten to tell us how old Tate is.

Well, let's do the math. He was 12 in 1999 when he killed the little girl. It's 2005 now, so 2005 less 1999... carry the one ... plus 12 ... HE'S 18 YEARS OLD!!!

Big boy crime by the Big Boy means Big Boy time. 'Nuff said. Time to throw away the key on Mr. Tate.


12 posted on 05/25/2005 3:55:44 AM PDT by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: Caipirabob

Great now this ape's going to get a 1 year trial coverage on every station.


13 posted on 05/25/2005 3:55:58 AM PDT by grizzly84
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To: Caipirabob
"We are still standing with him in this struggle," said Rev. Dennis Grant, part of a team of community and religious leaders who lobbied the state for Tate's early release.

Great. Another Reverend who can't bring himself to blame the criminal.

14 posted on 05/25/2005 3:57:33 AM PDT by raybbr
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To: hellinahandcart
Oh BS. It wasn't for pizzas. It was for assault and armed robbery.

And people need to understand that you get sentenced for what you do, not what you did it for.

15 posted on 05/25/2005 4:08:03 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: gridlock

If the anchovies stink, arrest the fink.


16 posted on 05/25/2005 4:09:27 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: gridlock; Caipirabob
"If he's covered in pepperoni, the boy's a phony." -- Lazamataz
17 posted on 05/25/2005 4:13:00 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The Republican Party is the France of politics.)
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To: gridlock; Caipirabob
"If nothin's left but crust, then convict you must." -- Lazamataz
18 posted on 05/25/2005 4:13:48 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The Republican Party is the France of politics.)
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To: Caipirabob
This boy's a sleeze with three kinds of cheese. patriot_wes
19 posted on 05/25/2005 4:17:38 AM PDT by patriot_wes (papal infallibility - a proud tradition since 1869)
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To: Caipirabob

Yesterday on Fox they had the psychiatrist who examined this guy when he was first tried.

He said he was ignored and quoted wrong during the trial. The boy should never have been released.

He said he talked to his teachers through kindergarden, and they told him he was the most violent child they had ever dealt with. I wish I had a transcript, because the guy couldn't express any more strongly that he should NEVER have been put back on the streets.


20 posted on 05/25/2005 4:18:59 AM PDT by I still care (America is not the problem - it is the solution..)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

Because of the sause, the case is a loss...


21 posted on 05/25/2005 4:20:11 AM PDT by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: hellinahandcart

I think they were pointing out the stupidity of committing crime for that reward.


22 posted on 05/25/2005 4:21:08 AM PDT by ahayes
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To: I still care

Let's just hope they put him away before he kills anybody else. Any unsolved murders in the Pembroke Gardens area recently?

How much you wanna bet the neighbors will be only too happy to see this guy carted away...


23 posted on 05/25/2005 4:22:14 AM PDT by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: Caipirabob

A bomb waiting to go off.

They'll convict him on this. He'll serve a short term. He'll get out, then he WILL kill some one.


24 posted on 05/25/2005 4:23:37 AM PDT by ryan71 (Speak softly and carry a BIG STICK)
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To: Caipirabob
Third arrest might seal future for Lionel Tate

What I can't understand is why the third arrest has to seal this piece of $hit's fate. The animal killed a little girl for fun the first time, and he's out in six years.

Martha Stewart get half that time for following her broker's advice, but I guess the Florida prosecuter didn't see a big publicity bost for himself the way that little Nazi putzhead Spitzer did.

25 posted on 05/25/2005 4:27:24 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy, and Bush is no conservative)
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To: Caipirabob
"Residents said he spends time with younger children, playing football and video games and zipping around on a motorized scooter."

More dull-witted parents who don't care who their childrens' "playmates" are.

Leni

26 posted on 05/25/2005 4:32:58 AM PDT by MinuteGal ("The Marines keep coming. We are shooting, but the Marines won't stop !" (Fallujah Terrorists)
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To: gridlock

Does the article mention that the 'playmate' was only 6 years old when she was murdered by this oversized 12 year old monster.


27 posted on 05/25/2005 4:38:44 AM PDT by OldFriend (MAJOR TAMMY DUCKWORTH.....INSPIRATIONAL)
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To: I still care
Just remember the little girl in the video a few weeks ago. The girl who was handcuffed by the police when she was so out of control at school.

We will be reading about her too one of these days.

28 posted on 05/25/2005 4:40:03 AM PDT by OldFriend (MAJOR TAMMY DUCKWORTH.....INSPIRATIONAL)
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To: Caipirabob

MSM deceit.....armed robbery/battery = alleged mistep


29 posted on 05/25/2005 4:42:47 AM PDT by traderrob6
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To: Caipirabob
We don't know why some people are sociopaths. They're just made that way and their lack of a conscience makes them dangerous. Its important to keep them well away from the rest us for our safety. Let's not be fooled by a monster with an angelic appearance... especially if his name happens to be Lionel Tate. He already took a life. Let's not see him take another one.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
30 posted on 05/25/2005 4:44:24 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: OldFriend

Nor does it mention his troubles with the law before the murder. His POS mother, a cop, was asleep in the next room when he murdered that little girl, she was supposed to be watching her.


31 posted on 05/25/2005 4:47:42 AM PDT by eastforker (Under Cover FReeper going dark(too much 24))
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To: goldstategop
Its important to keep them well away from the rest us for our safety.

Its important to keep them well away from the rest us put a bullet between their eyes for our safety.

32 posted on 05/25/2005 4:52:58 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy, and Bush is no conservative)
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To: raybbr

14 -- "We are still standing with him in this struggle," said Rev. Dennis Grant, part of a team of community and religious leaders who lobbied the state for Tate's early release.
Great. Another Reverend who can't bring himself to blame the criminal.



The Rev and the other "leaders" are morally responsible for this crime



33 posted on 05/25/2005 4:56:24 AM PDT by Casekirchen (If allah is just another name for the Judeo-Christian God, why do the islamics pray to a rock?)
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To: from occupied ga
Martha Stewart get half that time for following her broker's advice...

But Martha didn't have that all important, protective melanin, which counts for so much in our sick, PC society.

34 posted on 05/25/2005 4:58:44 AM PDT by Salvey
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To: Caipirabob

If you're wearing the pie, you must fry.


35 posted on 05/25/2005 5:00:28 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (WWJD - We Want Jack Daniels!)
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To: Caipirabob

They should have hung Tate in his cell from day one.


36 posted on 05/25/2005 5:01:52 AM PDT by montag813
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To: Caipirabob

Young murderers like Tate need to be executed - they are broken and unfixable. They are threats for their entire lifetime! Letting them go insures that others will suffer.
The fact that he had to commit three more crimes before ending up behind bars again is a travesty. The first misstep should have had back in the slammer.
Finally the "Reverend" is a true ass - and an enabler for a bloody minded criminal. Bet he and his family don't live in close proximity to this monster.


37 posted on 05/25/2005 5:03:27 AM PDT by Little Ray (I'm a reactionary, hirsute, gun-owning, knuckle dragging, Christian Neanderthal and proud of it!)
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To: Caipirabob

He is just another misunderstood brotha that is a victim of a white racist system. Yeah, right!


38 posted on 05/25/2005 5:05:51 AM PDT by JarheadFromFlorida
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To: Little Ray

Hopefully this will lead to incarceration for a long time. I wonder where this kid got the gun from--His Mother? Is she still a Police officer? Did he use her service weapon?Did he buy it off the street?

If this incident leads to a long jail term Florida got off cheap. A beating and a pizza is a cheap price to pay to get this born criminal off the street.


39 posted on 05/25/2005 5:12:35 AM PDT by sgtbono2002
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To: Salvey
But Martha didn't have that all important, protective melanin,

All too true, and Tate didn't have a publicity hungry prosecutor out to make a name for himself like those two Nazi putzhead a$$holes from NY, Spitzer(Martha Stewart) and Guiliani (Michael Millikan). Oh well, look on the bright side. If Tate goes away for life, Some hispanic "undocemented immigrant" will be willing to do the crimes he won't be able to commit.

40 posted on 05/25/2005 5:13:14 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy, and Bush is no conservative)
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Nor does it mention his troubles with the law before the murder.

Was the murder his second arrest? What was the other crime?

41 posted on 05/25/2005 5:16:06 AM PDT by Dianna
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To: Caipirabob

They had it right the first time,call up Rev. Masters ask him whaat he thinks now.


42 posted on 05/25/2005 5:17:12 AM PDT by Unicorn
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To: Tijeras_Slim
If he used a gun in Florida, there are mandatory penalties...up to life if a person is harmed. so.....

If he used a gun

He won't have fun.

43 posted on 05/25/2005 5:20:44 AM PDT by Dick Vomer (liberals suck......... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.)
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To: Rocketwolf68

Justice system? Seems more like a 'catch and release' program. I bet the LEOs down there are a frustrated bunch.


44 posted on 05/25/2005 5:24:00 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (Grant no power to government you would not want your worst enemies to wield against you.)
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To: Lazamataz

If he reeks of mozzerella, you know you got the fella...


45 posted on 05/25/2005 5:25:10 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (Grant no power to government you would not want your worst enemies to wield against you.)
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To: Caipirabob

Maybe he'll get life....again


46 posted on 05/25/2005 5:25:35 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: Caipirabob

"I pray that the court system has the sense to remove this monster from society before he kills again..........."

1 posted on 05/25/2005 3:24:28 AM PDT by Caipirabob

I would not count on it.

If anything, he may get a longer suspended sentence.

We have a judge problem, not a crime problem.

If the laws that are already on the books had been enforced the girl from Sarsota, Jessica Lunsford, and the Lundy girl would all be alive today in all probability.

It does not matter how many laws they enact, if they are not enforced, they do no good.


47 posted on 05/25/2005 5:25:53 AM PDT by sport
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To: Dianna

I posted it here at the time of the murder, yes he had an arrest record at 12, if I am not mistaken it was for assault.


48 posted on 05/25/2005 5:27:53 AM PDT by eastforker (Under Cover FReeper going dark(too much 24))
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To: Caipirabob

Anyone surprised that someone who would brutally beat a sweet 6 year old child to death would turn out to be a thug?

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Not me. He found out early on that there are no severe consequences for his actions (the killing of the small child)...so it gave him license to do whatever he wanted and, he thought, get away with it.


49 posted on 05/25/2005 5:29:46 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: Caipirabob

Too bad they can't put this guy, "on top of old Sparky."


50 posted on 05/25/2005 5:31:07 AM PDT by dfwgator (Flush Newsweek!)
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