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Over 500 people observed Christ Resurrection after He died on the cross.

Please support this amazing statement.

Many people who saw and relayed it back were killed.

And this one.

Not quick deaths mind you, but tortured under extreme measures to shut people up.

And this one.

You would think if this was just sacred fiction they would be subdued about the subject or even keep it a secret.

No, I wouldn't think that.

Either they were telling the truth by using the observation and their experience of empirical evidence by their 5 senses or they were just insane, thus implying every Christian is insane.

Class, this is a marvelous example of the "fallacy of the false dichotomy". The number of alternative explanations which the author has overlooked is left as an excercise for the reader.

The 24,000 copies of ancient New Testaments manuscripts.

1 Cor 15:3-6 "For I delivered to you as of first importance what I also received, that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4 and that He was buried, and that He was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, 5 and that He appeared to Cephas, then to the twelve. 6 After that He appeared to more than five hundred brethren at one time, most of whom remain until now, but some have fallen asleep".

"I claim to be an historian. My approach to Classics is historical. And I tell you that the evidence for the life, the death, and the resurrection of Christ is better authenticated than most of the facts of ancient history . . ."
E. M. Blaiklock
Professor of Classics
Auckland University, after 14 years of doing research on the Gospel of Luke

Jewish Persecutions began first then under Emperors Nero, Domitian, Trajan, Hadrian, Marcus Aurelius, Septimus Severus, Maximus the Thracian, Decius, Valerian, Diocletian/Galerius.

'44.2. Yet no human effort, no princely largess nor offerings to the gods could make that infamous rumor disappear that Nero had somehow ordered the fire. Therefore, in order to abolish that rumor, Nero falsely accused and executed with the most exquisite punishments those people called Christians, who were infamous for their abominations.

44.3. The originator of the name, Christ, was executed as a criminal by the procurator Pontius Pilate during the reign of Tiberius; and though repressed, this destructive superstition erupted again, not only through Judea, which was the origin of this evil, but also through the city of Rome, to which all that is horrible and shameful floods together and is celebrated.

44.4. Therefore, first those were seized who admitted their faith, and then, using the information they provided, a vast multitude were convicted, not so much for the crime of burning the city, but for hatred of the human race. And perishing they were additionally made into sports: they were killed by dogs by having the hides of beasts attached to them, or they were nailed to crosses or set aflame, and, when the daylight passed away, they were used as nighttime lamps.

44.5. Nero gave his own gardens for this spectacle and performed a Circus game, in the habit of a charioteer mixing with the plebs or driving about the race-course. Even though they were clearly guilty and merited being made the most recent example of the consequences of crime, people began to pity these sufferers, because they were consumed not for the public good but on account of the fierceness of one man.'

Tacitus, The Annals 44.2-44.5

Witnesses were stoned and some probably ended up being light fixures.

I was rushed on posting this, going away for a week, by the way this thread is going it might be at 4,000 when I get back.

Admittedly this thread is about science, and you are not claiming to be a theologian, so I would not flame you over something like this.

It may be, as well, that you are just pissed over the creationist stuff I have heard many guys rant about here, and I don't have a horse running in that race, although the issue does have some wider implications. Nevertheless....

Anyone who claims to be unaware of the historical resurrection (or are you simply asking him if HE knows how to document his claime?) is a person who is woefully unlearned. That is not intended as an insult, there are lots of areas in which I am woefully unlearned, myself. However, there are scores of persons who have gone out looking to "debunk" the resurrection of Christ who have wound up becoming Christians in the process. Two of the more famous examples are Lew Wallace (who then wrote the script for BEN HUR after his conversion), and the brit journalist Frank Morison's "Who Moved the Stone." If you respond, I will do likewise. Otherwise, I will just let this one go.