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Nab Neo-Nazis in bomb plot
DAILY NEWS ^ | May 25, 2005 | DEREK ROSE

Posted on 05/25/2005 5:39:00 AM PDT by Calpernia

Two avowed New Jersey racists have been charged with trying to build a fertilizer bomb similar to the device that blew up in Oklahoma City, authorities said yesterday.

Gabriel Carafa of Pennsville, N.J., and Craig Orler of Whiting, N.J., allegedly gave a federal informant 60 pounds of a fertilizer component and asked him to build a bomb.

"Carafa boasted that this urea was more pure than the stuff that [Timothy] McVeigh used," authorities said in court papers.

McVeigh was executed for his role in bombing a federal building in Oklahoma City.

Convicted of beating a Hindu store owner in 2002, Carafa, 24, has "rahowa" tattooed across his forehead - skinhead shorthand for "RAcial HOly WAr."

New Jersey Division of Criminal Justice spokesman John Hagerty said authorities are still trying to determine why they wanted a bomb. "We're not quite sure of the target that Mr. Carafa had in mind, if anything in particular," Hagerty said.

Authorities cut short the five-month-old investigation last week, after the pair allegedly sold 11 stolen rifles, handguns and shotguns to undercover investigators. The weapons were stolen from a home in Pennsville, authorities said.

Carafa is a leader in Matthew Hale's racist Creativity Movement, formerly known as World Church of the Creator, authorities said. Both Carafa and Orler are members of "The Hated," a neo-Nazi skinhead group, authorities said.

Hagerty said the hate groups had some "limited activity" in South Jersey. The Southern Poverty Law Center says the group is active in Newark and Toms River, N.J.

Orler, 28, also has three felony convictions, for two burglaries and an assault. The pair were both barred from possessing firearms.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: New Jersey; US: New York; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: craigorler; creativitymovement; creator; fertilizerbomb; gabrielcarafa; matthewhale; neonazi; newark; newjersey; nj; racialholywar; rahowa; skinhead; tattoo; thehated; timothymcveigh; tomsriver; urea; worldchurch

1 posted on 05/25/2005 5:39:01 AM PDT by Calpernia
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To: KylaStarr; Cindy; StillProud2BeFree; nw_arizona_granny; Velveeta; Dolphy; appalachian_dweller; ...

RAHOWA ping


2 posted on 05/25/2005 5:40:30 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

They are more like Neo-Nutsies.


3 posted on 05/25/2005 5:42:56 AM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (FR ID'S ARE ON GOOGLE WITH YOUR POSTS. BEWARE WHAT YOU SAY, HILLARY IS WATCHING.)
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To: Calpernia

Is there a good reason that people like should continue wasting air?


4 posted on 05/25/2005 5:43:38 AM PDT by TigersEye ("It's a Republic if you can keep it." - B. Franklin)
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To: Bringbackthedraft

Does that mean you won't be running out the door to have RAHOWA tattooed across it?


5 posted on 05/25/2005 5:43:53 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: TigersEye
correction:

Is there a good reason that people like [this] should continue wasting air?

6 posted on 05/25/2005 5:44:38 AM PDT by TigersEye ("It's a Republic if you can keep it." - B. Franklin)
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To: Calpernia

correction

Does that mean you won't be running out the door to have RAHOWA tattooed across it [your forehead]?


7 posted on 05/25/2005 5:46:20 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

When will someone form an exit strategy from FDR's nazi quagmire? We must, after all, hold all presidents to the same standard.

FDR's Continuing Quagmire:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1326902/posts


8 posted on 05/25/2005 5:50:00 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (<<<< Profile page streamlined, solely devoted Schiavo research)
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To: Calpernia

RAHOWA is all over Google Groups.

http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?q=RAHOWA&hl=en


9 posted on 05/25/2005 5:52:56 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

Neo Nazi groups - keyword FR search = RAHOWA


10 posted on 05/25/2005 5:55:03 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

"Carafa, 24, has "rahowa" tattooed across his forehead..."

Nothing like a good advertising campaign to win folks over.


11 posted on 05/25/2005 6:05:45 AM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Fun Fact: Did you know that NEWSWEEK has killed more people than Ted Kennedy's Oldsmobile?)
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To: Calpernia
The Southern Poverty Law Center says the group is active in Newark and Toms River, N.J.

There is no way these guys are active in Newark, NJ. Methinks the SPLC is confusing Newark, NJ with Newark, DE - which is just 15 miles from Pennsville, NJ where this idiot lives.

12 posted on 05/25/2005 6:07:25 AM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander-in-Chief)
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To: Calpernia

Once these losers hit the yard, their tatoos will be changed to MRIT (My Rectum is Torn)


13 posted on 05/25/2005 6:07:36 AM PDT by theDentist (The Dems are putting all their eggs in one basket-case: Howard "Belltower" Dean.)
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To: wideawake

Interesting catch Wideawake.


14 posted on 05/25/2005 6:11:25 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: theDentist

LOL!


15 posted on 05/25/2005 6:11:44 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: WorkingClassFilth
Nothing like a good advertising campaign to win folks over.

Sounds like he was looking to make himself unemployable.

16 posted on 05/25/2005 6:13:34 AM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander-in-Chief)
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To: Calpernia

Racism comes in every color.


17 posted on 05/25/2005 6:13:56 AM PDT by television is just wrong (http://heidisblogs.blogspot.com/ (visit blogs, visit ads).)
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To: Calpernia

Thanks. Also, my wife's cousin is a cop in the Toms River/Dover Township area and he says he has no knowledge of any significant activity of this kind.


18 posted on 05/25/2005 6:15:30 AM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander-in-Chief)
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To: Calpernia

Connected to Matthew Hale.


19 posted on 05/25/2005 6:16:38 AM PDT by Velveeta
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To: Calpernia

I have never heard it until I read the article. Learn something new everyday. Unless you travel in circles, or read a lot, you miss a lot. Rahowa (nazi) is as bad as mecha, lulac, or any other separatist organizations that have a goal of teaching their race is superior to that of another.


20 posted on 05/25/2005 6:17:02 AM PDT by television is just wrong (http://heidisblogs.blogspot.com/ (visit blogs, visit ads).)
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To: wideawake

Didn't ICE recently round up a number gangs here in NJ? Or were they different groups, maybe.


21 posted on 05/25/2005 6:22:12 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Velveeta

Yes, see this: "Matthew Hale's racist Creativity Movement, formerly known as World Church of the Creator"

the judge, last year, ordered him to stop using the name "World Church of the Creator" in reference to his supremacist organization.

So, now they are the Creativity Movement and everything is better.

:P


22 posted on 05/25/2005 6:25:30 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

Racial Holy War

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

RAcial HOly WAr (RAHOWA) is the belief that white people should unite and undertake a holy war against Jews and non-whites. The concept was first put forward by Ben Klassen, founder of the World Church of the Creator. Since the group's inception, the term "racial holy war" has gained some popularity within racist terminology, but has not seen wide use outside white supremacist groups.

There was also RAHOWA, a band produced by Resistance Records, a white power record label which was primarily used as a recruiting mechanism for Matt Hale's incarnation of the WCOTC. George Burdi was the founder of the band which was based out of Ontario, Canada. The band eventually split up after Burdi was arrested for charges of tax fraud and hate speech, which is illegal in Canada. He spent two years in prison and then left the racist movement, later marrying an East Indian woman and formed a band called Novacosm.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_Holy_War


23 posted on 05/25/2005 6:25:36 AM PDT by Velveeta
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To: Bringbackthedraft

They are more like Neo-Nutsies.
Actually Neo-nothings. They don't have you know what.


24 posted on 05/25/2005 6:27:07 AM PDT by moog
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To: Calpernia
ICE busted 9 members of Mara Salvatrucha 13 in Newark, NJ.

They were all Salvadorans.

25 posted on 05/25/2005 6:28:01 AM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander-in-Chief)
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To: Velveeta; Fedora
Resistance Records has a banner advertisement for National Alliance on ever site page.

Darn, I lost that thread we were on Fedora when we were playing connect the dots on all these fringe groups. I had left a note to come back, it was about National Alliance, and I got side tracked! :(

26 posted on 05/25/2005 6:35:23 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: wideawake

Ah, sorry, wrong gang movement. Although I'm sure they are plugged into the NGO programs somewhere /wiza crack ^-^


27 posted on 05/25/2005 6:36:20 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

Interesting forum they have over there:

http://www.resistance.com/forum/index.php?


28 posted on 05/25/2005 6:41:42 AM PDT by Velveeta
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To: Velveeta; Fedora; piasa; windchime

national alliance has their own thread too.

bump Vel!

http://www.resistance.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=41&sid=a98a91caad67b2e469623f572a6257ed


29 posted on 05/25/2005 6:43:08 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Velveeta

http://www.resistance.com/forum/memberlist.php


30 posted on 05/25/2005 6:45:25 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

My God, I started surfing the links in members...I'm on a site with chapter map contacts. They are part of the KKK

Chapters, active, everywhere.


31 posted on 05/25/2005 6:50:21 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: wideawake

What jurisdiction does the "Southern Poverty" Law Center have in New Joisey?


32 posted on 05/25/2005 7:17:02 AM PDT by weegee ("Do you want them to write a piece about how great the military is?" Elizabeth Bumiller - NY Times)
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To: Calpernia

So if they are fighting a "racial holy war", Hindus included, does that mean that they would also strike out against Wiccan, Atheist, and Scientolists who were white? Or just Jews who are white?


33 posted on 05/25/2005 7:19:53 AM PDT by weegee ("Do you want them to write a piece about how great the military is?" Elizabeth Bumiller - NY Times)
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To: Calpernia
Chapters, active, everywhere.

Most of these "chapters" consist of one or two people.

And half of them contain at least one police informant.

Do you know how many people work in the central offices of the World Church of the Creator? Four or five.

This so-called "movement" probably consists of 5,000-10,000 people nationwide with maybe a hundred times that many "well-wishers" who will occasionally buy a book or a record to support the "movement".

Basically the entire thing is run by a few scam artists like the late William Pierce, the late Ben Klassen, the hopefully soon-to-be-late Willis Carto - a handful of snakes who make this stuff a full-time job.

34 posted on 05/25/2005 7:23:13 AM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander-in-Chief)
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To: wideawake

Thank you! That actually made me feel better. Now pardon me, I have to finish taking a brillo pad to my eyes after reading those websites.


35 posted on 05/25/2005 7:37:15 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: weegee

::guessing:: Maybe the lawyers that work there have NJ licenses?


36 posted on 05/25/2005 7:37:52 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: weegee

I don't think hate discriminates. Once a focus of anger is removed, the hate never goes away. It just refocuses.


37 posted on 05/25/2005 7:39:08 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia
The National Alliance is an organization that is considered by the FBI, the ADL and the SPLC to be the most successful, most profitable, most formidable, best-organized group of this kind in the US. It also is probably the only one of its kind where a majority of its members are not ex-convicts.

It has roughly 800 dues-paying members and some of those don't even live in the US. That's all.

38 posted on 05/25/2005 7:42:47 AM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander-in-Chief)
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To: weegee
So if they are fighting a "racial holy war", Hindus included, does that mean that they would also strike out against Wiccan, Atheist, and Scientolists who were white? Or just Jews who are white?

They are atheists.

The Woerld Church of the Creator does not believe in God.

The "Creator" in their title refers to the white race.

They believe that white people are the only gods in the universe. Their beliefs are remarkably similar to black Five Percenters.

39 posted on 05/25/2005 7:45:55 AM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander-in-Chief)
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To: wideawake

An atheist holy war. The ACLU must love them.


40 posted on 05/25/2005 8:06:22 AM PDT by weegee ("Do you want them to write a piece about how great the military is?" Elizabeth Bumiller - NY Times)
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To: Calpernia

The Southern Poverty Law Center has nothing to do with the South or Poverty.

Sort of like NPR's "All Things Considered" or the liberal activist group "People For The American' Way".


41 posted on 05/25/2005 8:08:17 AM PDT by weegee ("Do you want them to write a piece about how great the military is?" Elizabeth Bumiller - NY Times)
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We got a couple of abuse reports, asking for removal of a comment made by the filer of those reports. No comment number was specified, so could you please submit another report with that information?

Thanks.

42 posted on 05/25/2005 8:48:27 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: Calpernia; Velveeta
Good morning.

It is unfair to put so many Googles in front of me, before I am even awake. You started quite a thread here.

Last night I caught a part of Mark Edwards program on KDWN,
(Wake up America Foundation. com), a caller talked to him about a program they have planned in So. California that
Jim Gilchrist is a planned speaker (Minutemen).

They have had so many threats from the anarchists that caused the riot at the Mexican monument in Baldwin Park, Calif a week or so ago. The Black mask group.

It seems the gang has decided that they will take the microphone out of Gilchrist hands as he speaks, and other ugly threats, as well as leaving nasty threats on the groups webpage.

The same threats were made to the Wake up America Foundation group and website, as they have the big meeting planned for this weekend in Las Vegas.

Mark said that they will have private guards hired, members on guard and that the police will be active there, as well as Homeland Security forces.

Mark said that when he called the police for help, they told him that they and Homeland Security were already aware and that they would have men in the crowd in plain clothes as well as a sniper team on duty.

The Kingman news was on a minute ago, She talked about the county being in on the big sweep by Homeland Security and the police, that there were arrests for narcotics among them that netted, meth, cash and weapons.

The arrests were in Kingman, Lake Havasu and Bullhead City.

Some of the Nazi crowd was here in Mohave County when they left Idaho and we have had them for years. The Sheriff was on the radio at the time and promised that he was watching them.
43 posted on 05/25/2005 9:12:13 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny (My prayer of thanks is for all the Freepers who make my days so interesting,educational and loving.)
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To: Calpernia

Need to be looking at overseas intel / terror connections on this one. Need to look at Abu Sayyaf, ISI, Syrian Mukhabarat, PLO, ErBu, etc - in no particular order.


44 posted on 05/25/2005 11:23:15 AM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: Calpernia
Darn, I lost that thread we were on Fedora when we were playing connect the dots on all these fringe groups. I had left a note to come back, it was about National Alliance, and I got side tracked! :(

One of these two, maybe?

Nazi road signs ripped down day after report: NAZIS ADOPT-A-HIGHWAY, SIGNS STOLEN

Boca Islamic Group Under Scrutiny for Neo-Nazi Ties (TROP™ and homegrown fascists)

45 posted on 05/25/2005 11:25:00 AM PDT by Fedora
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To: wideawake

Some linkage to National Bolsheviks and various post-Anarchy groups.


46 posted on 05/25/2005 11:26:25 AM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: Fedora

WOW! Thank you!


47 posted on 05/25/2005 12:14:48 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

You're welcome! Was one of those the one you were looking for?


48 posted on 05/25/2005 1:37:39 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: Fedora

Bookmarked for now. I'm in the heat of local primaries.


49 posted on 05/25/2005 1:55:12 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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