Skip to comments.Higher disease rates attributed to influx of illegals
Posted on 05/25/2005 7:06:18 AM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing
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"Do you think the republicans in Washington are "conservative"?"
Everyone tells me they are. When I'm here, I'm told to vote conservative, which translates to republican. :)
A conservative wants secure borders, a strong dollar, a balanced budget, economic self sufficiency, an actual absolute decrease in federal spending and laws/control, not getting involved in foreign wars, gun control laws to be repealed, etc.
Yep, it makes no difference who runs this country anymore. Many won't agree but our future is bleak.
The Constitution party still wants all those(conservative) things, but nobody will vote for them.
"A conservative wants secure borders, a strong dollar, a balanced budget, economic self sufficiency, an actual absolute decrease in federal spending and laws/control, not getting involved in foreign wars, gun control laws to be repealed, etc."
If that's the definition, there is not a single conservative in Washington! Especially not in the White House.
US congressman Ron Paul from Texas is a conservative.
The only true conservatives I see are on FR and among my peers at work. I don't know what's in the water in Wash DC but it turns even the most conservative to the left once they get there. There is some type of brainwashing going on up there, once our politicians get there, they lose sight of all they ran for.
I wish the people could be constantly polled on issues and the congress would be required to vote the will of the people. But as mom used to say, if wishes were horses, beggars would ride.
Why do you suppose that is? I would but I don't want to "waste" my vote. Next election I just might, unless the person running is strong on securing our borders. He/she can forget my vote and that of many freepers (not that it would make a lot of difference I suppose).
If both the democrat and the republican want bigger government, more fed spending, more fed laws/control over you, more gun control, unsecure borders, moving american factories to asia, does it really make any difference if the democrats want to do it just a little faster? Are we safer, better off, have more privacy, a stronger dollar, and less in debt today than we were before bush and the other republicans got elected?
We didn't elect a conservative. Bush has carried out every liberal program that Clinton would have been skewered for proposing.
As I recall, the only real conservative running was Michael Peroutka, and the message he was trying to get out was almost eradicated by the media.
The Republican party seems to be fragmenting. On the up side, Rep.'s Tom Tancredo, Jay Hayworth & Dana Rohrabacher are Republicans and have been speaking out against mass illegal immigration for some time. Now Tancredo's Immigration Reform Caucus has about 70 members, and Tancredo and 9 others are calling for 36,000 troops on the border.
On the down side, Bush seems to be in bed with Fox on the illegal immigration-open borders issue and seems to want an endless supply of millions of low-wage illegal Mexicans to satisfy big business and others who illegally hire them, homeland security be da**ed. I am so disgusted with Bush that I have changed my voter registration from Republican Party to Constitution Party, and notified the GOP to stop asking me for money.
36,000 troops on our border would really start slowing this invasion down, then those illegals who come to the attention of the authorities should be deported immediately, with no "ticket to run".
The Minuteman Project plans to put the spotlight on employers illegally hiring illegal aliens.
Start phasing down all the welfare give-away of taxpayers money to illegals.
"The federal government reports that while TB is on the decline nationally, Hispanics are the most-likely ethnic group to have the disease, and high TB rates in Mexican border areas are a big concern."
There was a case of TB recently confirmed at the Texas State Technical College in Harlingen.
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I did the same thing a couple of years ago when I realized what we had elected in 2000. I send the GOP beg letters back, writing "ask Mexico for money" in bold.
Gee whiz that's a "Well Duh!" and "We told you so!" immigration problem but would they listen? "Noooooooooo!"
American citizens are asking why, are demanding an explanation. We are outraged, yet we are being ignored. The cowards who are supposed to be "reporters" are not even asking these questions.
The fish is rotting from the head down.
As I and others have asked thousands of times, "President Bush, why are you allowing this invasion?". No reply, ever.
I do the same thing. Sometimes, though I tell them to stop asking ME for money; get it from the illegal aliens instead. Or I tell them I'm going to send money to Tancredo or the Minuteman Project instead. I actually look forward to getting those beg letters now.
Mrs. HJ went to the web site to trace her family's arrival here from Sicily. On the manifest she found, one of the six children traveling with grandmother's family, the youngest - a 4-yr-old - was returned to Sicily because of disease. The rest of the family stayed here in the US.
A four year old child was returned to Italy alone because of disease. Yeah, there were standards alright. Maybe not fair, but effective. (I have mixed feelings, because I care about individuals, but I guess that was the right thing to do then. It's probably still right.)
SO many illegals...so little concern from Washington..
I'm beginning to believe that our outrage begins and end on this forum..Bush could not care less.
You forgot that they are "just here to pick fruit and mow lawns."
Upper eschelon government on both sides are ignoring the problem. If you'll recall the current mess began with the shift in immigration from Europe and skilled people to developing nations who offer little to an advanced society. For that, you may thank drunken Kennedy's Immigration bill passed in the 1960's. The torrent we now are starting to stagger under didn't begin in 2000 with Mr. Bush. It began in 1992 with the all the stops pulled out by the krinton administration looking for voters and, of course, new and insidious ways of undermining our nation. Oh yeah, I agree that there will be hell to pay if something isn't done before too long.
like your tagline
Correct, but insufficient to explain things. See this post for a longer reply: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1410147/posts?page=74#74
Thanks. It's true...:-)
They are only spreading horrible diseases that Americans are unwilling to spread.
I contend that we would have been better off with a democrat as president, that way, the republicans in congress would be fighting whatever the president does, instead of cooperating in trillion dollar deficits and other liberal non conservative misguided affairs.
Wrong! Only 90% are whores! But that leave us with only 10%......not enough to sustain conservatism by a long shot.
Well... I hope you don't hold your breath waiting for that...:-)
Many here, for the longest time, have said that Bush "is ignoring the border problem." It's worse than that. Bush is the illegal immigrants' most powerful proponent. From what I've seen and heard... he wants them here, and the more the merrier. Bush has and will work against anyone, the Minutemen and what's left of the conservative wing in his own party, and, if need be, slam anyone who speaks out against his open border policy (which he should have abandoned the day after 911).
We can discuss his motivations on all this (I have my own beliefs). But, IMHO, the fact that he wants as many of them here as possible cannot be denied.
Heck, I saw Barney Frank on the tube the other day, excusing the border situation as something that "can't be helped." He praised the illegals and postured that "nothing can be done" and "nothing drastic should be done" to stop them. Sounded just like Dubya.
Unfortunately, we know how this issue is going to come down. Can't say nobody was warned.
Well, we once had the best civilization in the world. Unfortunately certain key people in this country have had a lack of of the proper education to keep it that way:
Illegal aliens threaten U.S. medical system
by WorldNetDaily.com, March 13, 2005
Cristobal Silverio emigrated illegally from Mexico to Stockton, Calif., in 1997 to work as a fruit picker.
He brought with him his wife, Felipa, and three children, 19, 12 and 8 all illegals. When Felipa gave birth to her fourth child, daughter Flor, the family had what is referred to as an "anchor baby" an American citizen by birth who provided the entire Silverio clan a ticket to remain in the U.S. permanently.
But Flor was born premature, spent three months in the neonatal incubator and cost the San Joaquin Hospital more than $300,000. Meanwhile, oldest daughter Lourdes married an illegal alien gave birth to a daughter, too. Her name is Esmeralda. And Felipa had yet another child, Cristian.
The two Silverio anchor babies generate $1,000 per month in public welfare funding for the family. Flor gets $600 a month for asthma. Healthy Cristian gets $400. While the Silverios earned $18,000 last year picking fruit, they picked up another $12,000 for their two "anchor babies."
While President Bush says the U.S. needs more "cheap labor" from south of the border to do jobs Americans aren't willing to do, the case of the Silverios shows there are indeed uncalculated costs involved in the importation of such labor public support and uninsured medical costs.
In fact, the increasing number of illegal aliens coming into the United States is forcing the closure of hospitals, spreading previously vanquished diseases and threatening to destroy America's prized health-care system, says a report in the spring issue of the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons.
"The influx of illegal aliens has serious hidden medical consequences," writes Madeleine Pelner Cosman, author of the report. "We judge reality primarily by what we see. But what we do not see can be more dangerous, more expensive, and more deadly than what is seen."
According to her study, 84 California hospitals are closing their doors as a direct result of the rising number of illegal aliens and their non-reimbursed tax on the system.
"Anchor babies," the author writes, "born to illegal aliens instantly qualify as citizens for welfare benefits and have caused enormous rises in Medicaid costs and stipends under Supplemental Security Income and Disability Income."
In addition, the report says, "many illegal aliens harbor fatal diseases that American medicine fought and vanquished long ago, such as drug-resistant tuberculosis, malaria, leprosy, plague, polio, dengue, and Chagas disease."
While politicians often mention there are 43 million without health insurance in this country, the report estimates that at least 25 percent of those are illegal immigrants. The figure could be as high as 50 percent.
Not being insured does not mean they don't get medical care.
Under the Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act of 1985, hospitals are obligated to treat the uninsured without reimbursement....
According to the report, between 1993 and 2003, 60 California hospitals closed because half their services became unpaid. Another 24 California hospitals verge on closure, the author writes.
"American hospitals welcome 'anchor babies,'" says the report.... Anchor babies are citizens, and instantly qualify for public welfare aid: Between 300,000 and 350,000 anchor babies annually become citizens because of the Fourteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution: "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and the State wherein they reside."
Among the organizations directing illegal aliens into America's medical systems, according to the report, are the Ford Foundation-funded Mexican American Legal Defense and Education Fund, the National Immigration Law Center, the American Immigration Lawyers Association, the American Bar Association's Commission on Immigration Policy, Practice, and Pro Bono, the Immigrant Legal Resource Center, the National Council of La Raza, George Soros's Open Society Institute, the Migration Policy Institute, the National Network for Immigration and Refugee Rights and the Southern Poverty Law Center....
Many illegals entering this country have tuberculosis, according to the report.
..."TB's swift, deadly return now is lethal for about 60 percent of those infected because of new Multi-Drug Resistant Tuberculosis. Until recently MDR-TB was endemic to Mexico. This Mycobacterium tuberculosis is resistant to at least two major anti-tubercular drugs.... Latent disease explodes later....
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention ascribed 42 percent of all new TB cases to 'foreign born' people who have up to eight times higher incidences apparently, 66 percent of all TB cases coming to America originate in Mexico, the Philippines and Vietnam."
Other health threats from illegals include, according to the report:
Chagas disease, also called American trypanosomiasis or "kissing bug disease," is transmitted by the reduviid bug, which prefers to bite the lips and face.... The disease also infiltrates America's blood supply... No cure exists....
Leprosy, also known as Hansen's disease... is endemic to northeastern states because illegal aliens and other immigrants brought leprosy from India, Brazil, the Caribbean and Mexico.
Dengue fever is exceptionally rare in America... Recently, according to the report, there was a virulent outbreak of dengue fever in Webb County, Texas, which borders Mexico....
Polio was eradicated from America, but now reappears in illegal immigrants as do intestinal parasites, says the report.
Malaria was obliterated, but now is re-emerging in Texas.
The Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons report includes a strong prescription for protecting the health of Americans:
Closing America's borders with fences, high-tech security devices and troops.
Rescinding the U.S. citizenship of "anchor babies."
Punishing the aiding and abetting of illegal aliens as a crime.
An end to amnesty programs.
Even more chilling than hospitals collapsing concerns an increasing number of unchecked aliens importing diseases into the USA. In five years, 16,000 cases of multi-drug-resistant tuberculosis breached the Mexican border. In three years, 7,000 cases of leprosy (Hansens Disease) arrived with immigrants from India, Brazil and the Caribbean. Tens of thousands of cases of hepatitis A transplanted into America. Another South American disease, affecting 14 million and killing 50,000 annually, Chagas Disease, a parasite that attacks the heart and other organs, invades U.S. borders in the bodies of the unchecked illegal aliens.
The crisis of these diseases wont play itself out for years. One TB carrying illegal may infect 10 to 50 other persons depending on his/her circulation in public. If he works in fast food, he may come in contact with an unlimited number of people. If he has hepatitis A and serves on the food line cutting onions or tomatoes, all customers stand at risk. If illegal alien children, now number over 1.1 million in public schools are infected, they can infect American children. This year, the Center for Disease Control announced 14, 871 new cases of tuberculosis. It's only the beginning.
Oh dear Lord....
LOL - good tagline. I'm a guest in that hotel too, but not happy about it either!
Who could be more liberal than Barney Frank? GWBush is a liberal in conservative clothing...
Leprosy is coming back ? My God, I thought we had that one completely eradicated.
most diseases still exist in third world countries, and now that our borders are open, and now that we are immigrating peoples from third world countries instead of western europe, these diseases are now re-appearing in the US, such as polio, malaria, etc.
Sorry, but here's another. And it's one of the two biggies:
The first long-distance spread of cholera to Europe and the Americas began in 1817, such that by the early 20th century, six waves of cholera had spread across the world in devastating epidemic fashion. Since then, until the 1960s, the disease contracted, remaining present only in southern Asia. In 1961, the "El Tor" biotype (distinguished from classic biotypes by the production of hemolysins) reemerged and produced a major epidemic in the Philippines to initiate a seventh global pandemic (See map below). Since then, this biotype has spread across Asia, the Middle East, Africa, and parts of Europe.
There are several characteristics of the El Tor strain that confer upon it a high degree of "epidemic virulence" allowing it to spread across the world as previous strains have done. First, the ratio of cases to carriers is much less than in cholera due to classic biotypes (1: 30-100 for El Tor vs. 1: 2 - 4 for "classic" biotypes). Second, the duration of carriage after infection is longer for the El Tor strain than the classic strains. Third, the El Tor strain survives for longer periods in the extraintestinal environment. Between 1969 and 1974, El Tor replaced the classic strains in the heartland of endemic cholera, the Ganges River Delta of India.
El Tor broke out explosively in Peru in 1991 (after an absence of cholera there for 100 years), and spread rapidly in Central and South America, with recurrent epidemics in 1992 and 1993. From the onset of the epidemic in January 1991 through September 1, 1994, a total of 1,041,422 cases and 9,642 deaths (overall case-fatality rate: 0.9%) were reported from countries in the Western Hemisphere to the Pan American Health Organization. In 1993, the numbers of reported cases and deaths were 204,543 and 2362, respectively.
The global spread of cholera during the seventh pandemic, 1961-1971. (CDC)
In 1982, in Bangladesh, a classic biotype resurfaced with a new capacity to produce more severe illness, and it rapidly replaced the El Tor strain which was thought to be well-entrenched. This classic strain has not yet produced a major outbreak in any other country.
In December, 1992, a large epidemic of cholera began in Bangladesh, and large numbers of people have been involved. The organism has been characterized as V. cholerae O139 "Bengal". It is derived genetically from the El Tor pandemic strain but it has changed its antigenic structure such that there is no existing immunity and all ages, even in endemic areas, are susceptible. The epidemic has continued to spread. and V. choleraeO139 has affected at least 11 countries in southern Asia. Specific totals for numbers of V. cholerae O139 cases are unknown because affected countries do not report infections caused by O1 and O139 separately.
In April 1997, a cholera outbreak occurred among 90,000 Rwandan refugees residing in temporary camps in the Democratic Republic of Congo. During the first 22 days of the outbreak, 1521 deaths were recorded, most of which occurred outside of health-care facilities.
In the United States, cholera was prevalent in the 1800s but has been virtually eliminated by modern sewage and water treatment systems. However, as a result of improved transportation, more persons from the United States travel to parts of Latin America, Africa, or Asia where epidemic cholera is occurring. U.S. travelers to areas with epidemic cholera may be exposed to the bacterium. In addition, travelers may bring contaminated seafood back to the United States. A few foodborne outbreaks have been caused by contaminated seafood brought into this country by travelers. Greater than 90 percent of the cases of cholera in the U.S. have been associated with foreign travel.
V. cholerae may also live in the environment in brackish rivers and coastal waters. Shellfish eaten raw have been a source of cholera, and a few persons in the United States have contracted cholera after eating raw or undercooked shellfish from the Gulf of Mexico.
It's hard to believe that this story was on MSNBC.com . Although it didn't mention multi-drug resistant tuberculosis, other comments on the thread did. The story could make folks think twice about grabbing fast food. Thanks for the cholera info.
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