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Higher disease rates attributed to influx of illegals
MSNBC ^ | May 15, 2005 | Angela Gonzales and Mike Sunnucks

Posted on 05/25/2005 7:06:18 AM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing

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To: brownsfan

Wrong! Only 90% are whores! But that leave us with only 10%......not enough to sustain conservatism by a long shot.

81 posted on 05/25/2005 2:57:52 PM PDT by international american (Tagline now flameproof....purchased from "Conspiracy Guy Custom Taglines"LLC)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing


82 posted on 05/25/2005 3:02:44 PM PDT by 4.1O dana super trac pak (Stop the open borders death cult)
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To: Serenissima Venezia
And I am waiting for President Bush to issue a formal apology to the Minutemen for calling these modern-day heroes 'vigilantes'.

Well... I hope you don't hold your breath waiting for that...:-)

Many here, for the longest time, have said that Bush "is ignoring the border problem." It's worse than that. Bush is the illegal immigrants' most powerful proponent. From what I've seen and heard... he wants them here, and the more the merrier. Bush has and will work against anyone, the Minutemen and what's left of the conservative wing in his own party, and, if need be, slam anyone who speaks out against his open border policy (which he should have abandoned the day after 911).

We can discuss his motivations on all this (I have my own beliefs). But, IMHO, the fact that he wants as many of them here as possible cannot be denied.

Heck, I saw Barney Frank on the tube the other day, excusing the border situation as something that "can't be helped." He praised the illegals and postured that "nothing can be done" and "nothing drastic should be done" to stop them. Sounded just like Dubya.

83 posted on 05/25/2005 3:06:10 PM PDT by Types_with_Fist (I'm on FReep so often that when I read an article at another site I scroll down for the comments.)
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To: HiJinx; Mamzelle

Unfortunately, we know how this issue is going to come down. Can't say nobody was warned.

84 posted on 05/25/2005 3:49:33 PM PDT by TheLion
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing; HiJinx

Well, we once had the best civilization in the world. Unfortunately certain key people in this country have had a lack of of the proper education to keep it that way:

Illegal aliens threaten U.S. medical system

by, March 13, 2005

Cristobal Silverio emigrated illegally from Mexico to Stockton, Calif., in 1997 to work as a fruit picker.

He brought with him his wife, Felipa, and three children, 19, 12 and 8 – all illegals. When Felipa gave birth to her fourth child, daughter Flor, the family had what is referred to as an "anchor baby" – an American citizen by birth who provided the entire Silverio clan a ticket to remain in the U.S. permanently.

But Flor was born premature, spent three months in the neonatal incubator and cost the San Joaquin Hospital more than $300,000. Meanwhile, oldest daughter Lourdes married an illegal alien gave birth to a daughter, too. Her name is Esmeralda. And Felipa had yet another child, Cristian.

The two Silverio anchor babies generate $1,000 per month in public welfare funding for the family. Flor gets $600 a month for asthma. Healthy Cristian gets $400. While the Silverios earned $18,000 last year picking fruit, they picked up another $12,000 for their two "anchor babies."

While President Bush says the U.S. needs more "cheap labor" from south of the border to do jobs Americans aren't willing to do, the case of the Silverios shows there are indeed uncalculated costs involved in the importation of such labor – public support and uninsured medical costs.

In fact, the increasing number of illegal aliens coming into the United States is forcing the closure of hospitals, spreading previously vanquished diseases and threatening to destroy America's prized health-care system, says a report in the spring issue of the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons.

"The influx of illegal aliens has serious hidden medical consequences," writes Madeleine Pelner Cosman, author of the report. "We judge reality primarily by what we see. But what we do not see can be more dangerous, more expensive, and more deadly than what is seen."

According to her study, 84 California hospitals are closing their doors as a direct result of the rising number of illegal aliens and their non-reimbursed tax on the system.

"Anchor babies," the author writes, "born to illegal aliens instantly qualify as citizens for welfare benefits and have caused enormous rises in Medicaid costs and stipends under Supplemental Security Income and Disability Income."

In addition, the report says, "many illegal aliens harbor fatal diseases that American medicine fought and vanquished long ago, such as drug-resistant tuberculosis, malaria, leprosy, plague, polio, dengue, and Chagas disease."

While politicians often mention there are 43 million without health insurance in this country, the report estimates that at least 25 percent of those are illegal immigrants. The figure could be as high as 50 percent.

Not being insured does not mean they don't get medical care.

Under the Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act of 1985, hospitals are obligated to treat the uninsured without reimbursement....

According to the report, between 1993 and 2003, 60 California hospitals closed because half their services became unpaid. Another 24 California hospitals verge on closure, the author writes.

"American hospitals welcome 'anchor babies,'" says the report.... Anchor babies are citizens, and instantly qualify for public welfare aid: Between 300,000 and 350,000 anchor babies annually become citizens because of the Fourteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution: "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and the State wherein they reside."

Among the organizations directing illegal aliens into America's medical systems, according to the report, are the Ford Foundation-funded Mexican American Legal Defense and Education Fund, the National Immigration Law Center, the American Immigration Lawyers Association, the American Bar Association's Commission on Immigration Policy, Practice, and Pro Bono, the Immigrant Legal Resource Center, the National Council of La Raza, George Soros's Open Society Institute, the Migration Policy Institute, the National Network for Immigration and Refugee Rights and the Southern Poverty Law Center....

Many illegals entering this country have tuberculosis, according to the report.

..."TB's swift, deadly return now is lethal for about 60 percent of those infected because of new Multi-Drug Resistant Tuberculosis. Until recently MDR-TB was endemic to Mexico. This Mycobacterium tuberculosis is resistant to at least two major anti-tubercular drugs.... Latent disease explodes later....

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention ascribed 42 percent of all new TB cases to 'foreign born' people who have up to eight times higher incidences apparently, 66 percent of all TB cases coming to America originate in Mexico, the Philippines and Vietnam."

Other health threats from illegals include, according to the report:

Chagas disease, also called American trypanosomiasis or "kissing bug disease," is transmitted by the reduviid bug, which prefers to bite the lips and face.... The disease also infiltrates America's blood supply... No cure exists....
Leprosy, also known as Hansen's disease... is endemic to northeastern states because illegal aliens and other immigrants brought leprosy from India, Brazil, the Caribbean and Mexico.
Dengue fever is exceptionally rare in America... Recently, according to the report, there was a virulent outbreak of dengue fever in Webb County, Texas, which borders Mexico....

Polio was eradicated from America, but now reappears in illegal immigrants as do intestinal parasites, says the report.
Malaria was obliterated, but now is re-emerging in Texas.
The Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons report includes a strong prescription for protecting the health of Americans:

Closing America's borders with fences, high-tech security devices and troops.
Rescinding the U.S. citizenship of "anchor babies."
Punishing the aiding and abetting of illegal aliens as a crime.
An end to amnesty programs.

85 posted on 05/25/2005 3:57:08 PM PDT by TheLion
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing; HiJinx

Even more chilling than hospitals collapsing concerns an increasing number of unchecked aliens importing diseases into the USA. In five years, 16,000 cases of multi-drug-resistant tuberculosis breached the Mexican border. In three years, 7,000 cases of leprosy (Hansen’s Disease) arrived with immigrants from India, Brazil and the Caribbean. Tens of thousands of cases of hepatitis A transplanted into America. Another South American disease, affecting 14 million and killing 50,000 annually, Chagas Disease, a parasite that attacks the heart and other organs, invades U.S. borders in the bodies of the unchecked illegal aliens.

The crisis of these diseases won’t play itself out for years. One TB carrying illegal may infect 10 to 50 other persons depending on his/her circulation in public. If he works in fast food, he may come in contact with an unlimited number of people. If he has hepatitis A and serves on the food line cutting onions or tomatoes, all customers stand at risk. If illegal alien children, now number over 1.1 million in public schools are infected, they can infect American children. This year, the Center for Disease Control announced 14, 871 new cases of tuberculosis. It's only the beginning.


86 posted on 05/25/2005 4:03:18 PM PDT by TheLion
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To: NRA2BFree
Yesterday a baby died from the whooping cough in Albuquerque, NM. It was too young to give any vaccinations yet.

Oh dear Lord....

87 posted on 05/25/2005 4:43:12 PM PDT by Bradís Gramma (Yo! Cowboy! I'm praying for a LoganMiracle! It CAN happen!!!!)
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To: Peach
I do not understand the reluctance of the goverment to do something about this.

Simple really. Money. Power. Both parties benefit in one way or another. Thats the problem here.
88 posted on 05/25/2005 4:46:00 PM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: blaze
Welcome to the Hotel Mexifornia

LOL - good tagline. I'm a guest in that hotel too, but not happy about it either!

89 posted on 05/25/2005 4:53:07 PM PDT by janetgreen
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To: Types_with_Fist
Barney Frank on the tube the other day, excusing the border situation as something that "can't be helped." He praised the illegals and postured that "nothing can be done" and "nothing drastic should be done" to stop them. Sounded just like Dubya.

Who could be more liberal than Barney Frank? GWBush is a liberal in conservative clothing...

90 posted on 05/25/2005 4:59:11 PM PDT by janetgreen
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Leprosy is coming back ? My God, I thought we had that one completely eradicated.

91 posted on 05/25/2005 5:03:31 PM PDT by Centurion2000 ("THE REDNECK PROBLEM" ..... we prefer the term, "Agro-Americans")
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To: Centurion2000
Leprosy is coming back ? My God, I thought we had that one completely eradicated.

most diseases still exist in third world countries, and now that our borders are open, and now that we are immigrating peoples from third world countries instead of western europe, these diseases are now re-appearing in the US, such as polio, malaria, etc.

92 posted on 05/25/2005 6:38:47 PM PDT by SandyB
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To: clee1; neverdem
Do we really need any MORE reasons to halt illegal immigration NOW?????

Sorry, but here's another. And it's one of the two biggies:

The first long-distance spread of cholera to Europe and the Americas began in 1817, such that by the early 20th century, six waves of cholera had spread across the world in devastating epidemic fashion. Since then, until the 1960s, the disease contracted, remaining present only in southern Asia. In 1961, the "El Tor" biotype (distinguished from classic biotypes by the production of hemolysins) reemerged and produced a major epidemic in the Philippines to initiate a seventh global pandemic (See map below). Since then, this biotype has spread across Asia, the Middle East, Africa, and parts of Europe.

There are several characteristics of the El Tor strain that confer upon it a high degree of "epidemic virulence" allowing it to spread across the world as previous strains have done. First, the ratio of cases to carriers is much less than in cholera due to classic biotypes (1: 30-100 for El Tor vs. 1: 2 - 4 for "classic" biotypes). Second, the duration of carriage after infection is longer for the El Tor strain than the classic strains. Third, the El Tor strain survives for longer periods in the extraintestinal environment. Between 1969 and 1974, El Tor replaced the classic strains in the heartland of endemic cholera, the Ganges River Delta of India.

The global spread of cholera during the seventh pandemic, 1961-1971. (CDC)

El Tor broke out explosively in Peru in 1991 (after an absence of cholera there for 100 years), and spread rapidly in Central and South America, with recurrent epidemics in 1992 and 1993. From the onset of the epidemic in January 1991 through September 1, 1994, a total of 1,041,422 cases and 9,642 deaths (overall case-fatality rate: 0.9%) were reported from countries in the Western Hemisphere to the Pan American Health Organization. In 1993, the numbers of reported cases and deaths were 204,543 and 2362, respectively.

In 1982, in Bangladesh, a classic biotype resurfaced with a new capacity to produce more severe illness, and it rapidly replaced the El Tor strain which was thought to be well-entrenched. This classic strain has not yet produced a major outbreak in any other country.

In December, 1992, a large epidemic of cholera began in Bangladesh, and large numbers of people have been involved. The organism has been characterized as V. cholerae O139 "Bengal". It is derived genetically from the El Tor pandemic strain but it has changed its antigenic structure such that there is no existing immunity and all ages, even in endemic areas, are susceptible. The epidemic has continued to spread. and V. choleraeO139 has affected at least 11 countries in southern Asia. Specific totals for numbers of V. cholerae O139 cases are unknown because affected countries do not report infections caused by O1 and O139 separately.

In April 1997, a cholera outbreak occurred among 90,000 Rwandan refugees residing in temporary camps in the Democratic Republic of Congo. During the first 22 days of the outbreak, 1521 deaths were recorded, most of which occurred outside of health-care facilities.

In the United States, cholera was prevalent in the 1800s but has been virtually eliminated by modern sewage and water treatment systems. However, as a result of improved transportation, more persons from the United States travel to parts of Latin America, Africa, or Asia where epidemic cholera is occurring. U.S. travelers to areas with epidemic cholera may be exposed to the bacterium. In addition, travelers may bring contaminated seafood back to the United States. A few foodborne outbreaks have been caused by contaminated seafood brought into this country by travelers. Greater than 90 percent of the cases of cholera in the U.S. have been associated with foreign travel.

V. cholerae may also live in the environment in brackish rivers and coastal waters. Shellfish eaten raw have been a source of cholera, and a few persons in the United States have contracted cholera after eating raw or undercooked shellfish from the Gulf of Mexico.

93 posted on 05/26/2005 10:17:09 AM PDT by archy (The darkness will come. It will find you,and it will scare you like you've never been scared before.)
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To: archy; El Gato; JudyB1938; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Robert A. Cook, PE; lepton; LadyDoc; jb6; tiamat; ..

It's hard to believe that this story was on . Although it didn't mention multi-drug resistant tuberculosis, other comments on the thread did. The story could make folks think twice about grabbing fast food. Thanks for the cholera info.

FReepmail me if you want on or off my health and science ping list.

94 posted on 05/26/2005 3:29:48 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: archy
' "For example, in 40 years, only 900 persons were afflicted by leprosy in the U.S.; in the past three years, more than 7,000 cases have been presented." '

95 posted on 05/26/2005 3:46:45 PM PDT by bitt ("There are troubling signs Bush doesn't care about winning a third term." (JH2))
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