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Transgenders Included in New Hate Crimes Bill
Crosswalk ^ | May 24, 2005 | Susan Jones

Posted on 05/25/2005 7:28:09 AM PDT by missyme

A "hate crimes" bill that specifically covers crimes based on "gender identity" and sexual orientation will be introduced in the U.S. House of Representatives on Thursday, a homosexual advocacy group said.

"Transgender and gay Americans deserve the same clear protections against hate crimes as other Americans," said Human Rights Campaign President Joe Solmonese.

"We're proud that for the first time legislation will be introduced that explicitly covers the entire gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender community and the community will have an unambiguous shot at equal protection under hate crimes law."

The Human Rights Campaign says it has worked "side-by-side" with the bill's lead sponsors, including Reps. Barney Frank(D-Mass.), Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (R-Fla.), John Conyers Jr.(D-Mich.), Christopher Shays (R-Conn.), Tammy Baldwin (D-Wisc.) in writing the bill.

Solmonese says "public support is there" for including transgender people in hate crime laws.

The introduction of the bill also heals a rift in the GLBT community.

Last August, transgender advocacy groups were protesting the Human Rights Campaign's "dubious efforts" to include them in federal legislation.

At the time, transgenders accused the homosexual community of throwing them overboard, in an effort to make federal legislation more palatable to lawmakers.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 109th; happyfaggots; hatecrimes; homosexualagenda; roslehtinen; shays; thoughtpolice
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1 posted on 05/25/2005 7:28:10 AM PDT by missyme
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To: missyme

"Some animals are more equal than others"


2 posted on 05/25/2005 7:31:16 AM PDT by hang 'em ("You can't buy the People unless yer for the People, ahuh huh ahuh" - William Jefferson Clinton)
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To: missyme

I trust that provisions for "hate crimes" against whites and Christians were included and will be prosecuted as vigorously a those against transgenders.


3 posted on 05/25/2005 7:33:36 AM PDT by SpinyNorman (Moral relativism is, by definition, the polar opposite of having values.)
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To: missyme

The Hate Crimes Laws are nothing more than the implementation of the Values set forth in the European Socialist Manefesto. They undermine our Gurantee of Freedom of Speech by the Constitution. The Hate Crimes were put into law to do just that. We have the right to Hate just as we have the right to Love. The Constitution of the United States is slowly but surely being replaced with the Socialist Version of the European Constitution, read it for yourself:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1318061/posts?page=6#6
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1318038/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1318034/posts
http://waysandmeans.house.gov/hearings.asp?formmode=view&id=954
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1254190/posts


4 posted on 05/25/2005 7:34:21 AM PDT by 26lemoncharlie ('Cuntas haereses tu sola interemisti in universo mundo!')
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To: hang 'em

I don't understand the transgendered thing at all. As a gay friend of mine once told me; "I don't have anything in common with these people....but there's no other place to put them except with us" About 75% of trannies (men to women) still look like guys in a distorted way.


5 posted on 05/25/2005 7:37:59 AM PDT by brooklyn dave (Catholic school survivor and proud of it.)
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To: SpinyNorman
"I trust that provisions for "hate crimes" against whites and Christians were included and will be prosecuted as vigorously a those against transgenders."

That is but one of the major problems with so-called "hate crimes" (read: thought crimes) laws. They clearly violate equal protection under the law, making some lives worth more than others.

Commit an assault, rape, murder, et cetera, and you should be tossed in the pokey (or worse). Serving more time for committing the crime against someone in a protected class is unconstitutional. Want stiffer sentences? Raise them across the board.
6 posted on 05/25/2005 7:39:45 AM PDT by LIConFem (Mein Luftkissenboot ist mit Aalen voll.)
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To: missyme

Does this mean we have to hate them all the same amount?


7 posted on 05/25/2005 7:40:21 AM PDT by Recall
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To: missyme

There are no "hate crimes". Either someone has been assaulted and had their civil rights violated or they have not.

Political party is not afforded the same protection. If you are denied a job or room because of you vote Republican, you are out of luck. If someone torches signs on your yard or paints swastikas on your car or sidewalk because you have a Bush Cheney sign, you are out of luck.

If you look for a quota set-aside because you are white and now in the minority in some cities, you are out of luck.

All of this is just cover to designate "politically correct" protected groups and to institutionalize the discrimination against the "politically incorrect".


8 posted on 05/25/2005 7:40:58 AM PDT by weegee ("Do you want them to write a piece about how great the military is?" Elizabeth Bumiller - NY Times)
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To: missyme
Solmonese says "public support is there" for including transgender people in hate crime laws.

Not here.

9 posted on 05/25/2005 7:43:07 AM PDT by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: missyme

Let me add too the notion of "rough trade" where transexuals, transvestites, transgenders... will deliberately pull a "bait and switch" on heterosexuals. The risk of assault is a part of the kink for some.

Now it could be claimed that "bait and switch" is in and of itself an attempt at sexual molestation/violation. Can their be "consent" to sex without full disclosure?


10 posted on 05/25/2005 7:43:59 AM PDT by weegee ("Do you want them to write a piece about how great the military is?" Elizabeth Bumiller - NY Times)
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To: missyme

Does that mean I'll be protected now?


11 posted on 05/25/2005 7:45:18 AM PDT by pissant (headache gone!)
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To: brooklyn dave
It is gender confusion. There is no "wear the clothes of the opposite gender" gene. We are born naked. Clothing is dictated by fashion and culture.

And why would "gay men" go for a man who "looks like a woman"? Either women are okay or they are not. Some transsexuals keep their "equipment" meaning that it is a fascination with penises that really drives their sexual appetite.

If they like breasts "too", why don't any of them get four breasts? If you are going to get plastic surgery and become a freak, why not go all out? Why not put breasts on the sides of legs or on the back (great for dancing)?

Piercing, tattooing, and other body modification leaves a whole lot of questions open as to why this sort of plastic surgery just isn't done.
12 posted on 05/25/2005 7:48:56 AM PDT by weegee ("Do you want them to write a piece about how great the military is?" Elizabeth Bumiller - NY Times)
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To: pissant

Yes! You now can wear your dress and High Heels!
Your Protected!


13 posted on 05/25/2005 7:52:41 AM PDT by missyme (with)
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To: missyme

Excellent! I'm off shopping. Any recommendations?


14 posted on 05/25/2005 7:53:35 AM PDT by pissant (headache gone!)
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To: Recall; pissant
Dude looks like a lady Dude looks like a lady Dude looks like a lady Dude looks like a lady
15 posted on 05/25/2005 7:56:32 AM PDT by missyme (with)
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To: missyme

How about including hate speech against conservatives?


17 posted on 05/25/2005 8:09:55 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?")
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To: weegee

That is exactly what I've been saying for years. Take the movie "Boys Don't Cry". I have not seen the movie, but from what I've heard, the "victim" was killed after fooling the "perp". A perfectly understandable response in my book. What did he expect? Did I miss something here? Why is it that a "crime of passion" involves more lenient penalties, whereas a "hate crime" involves harsher penalties?


18 posted on 05/25/2005 8:10:17 AM PDT by August West (To each according to his ability, from each according to his need...)
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To: missyme

You ever seen them in a store. Your in your sweats and they have some kind of 60's Jackie Kennedy outfit and a wig with a Flip. Yeah, they just blend right in. lol


19 posted on 05/25/2005 8:10:18 AM PDT by Recall
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To: geoffreyt

Well political correctness seeks to make us all take the same positions on every issue.

Who wants to be a sexist-racist-homophobe out to destroy the environment?

If you have ever stumbled in a conversation fishing for the "correct" word to use now ("Mailman, er no...") then you have got their little censor working inside your brain.


20 posted on 05/25/2005 8:11:21 AM PDT by weegee ("Do you want them to write a piece about how great the military is?" Elizabeth Bumiller - NY Times)
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