Punish the Senate Filibuster Compromisers!

NewsMax.com ^ | May 25, 2005 | William Greene

[Tulane]

Yor wishing a man that served his country was killed by communists? Nice.

[Cowman]

the Gipper Himself made plenty of comprimises.

He never had a majority in both houses either

[Tulane]

And neither may we in time...I disagreed with the comprimise, but it SHOULD NOT SPLIT THE PARTY...if it does, the Dems really did win.

[EagleUSA]

Watch out for McCain. He is 99% for McCain and 1% for us.
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Precisely!! But that makes him no different than 99% of the self-serving politicians in the Congress...they have not worked for this country for a long time. It is all about their own self-empowerment and the career that our laws permit them to make of serving in the Congress. Pray for term limits -- (just a dream, really.)

[calex59]

The big deal is the agreement is unconstitutional in that it tries to usurp the power of the president to appoint judicial nominees without consulting anyone before hand. The so called agreement is also non enforceble because only 14 peopel signed it out of 100 senators. Frist has said he doesn't recognize this agreement and the constitutional option is still on the table because Frist didn't sign on to this. This agreement is unspeakable arrogance on the part of the 7 RINOS and the dems because they are presupposing that their agreement overides the rest of the senates wishes.

Frist has said he will bring all nominees up for a vote and that the constitutional option is still on the table, he doesn't care what Reid and the RINOS have to say about it.

[clee1]

No. I won't do that.

I may vote for a Constitution Party or Libertarian candidate, or I may just stay home.

No longer will I vote for the lesser of two evils, or vote against the liberal.

The Republican Party, as demonstrated by this Congress, lacks the b@lls to do what's right. They have earned the loss of my support. I am a conservative. I used to vote republican because they were conservatives too, or so it seems. They have revealed themselves to be only self-serving politicians. Screw 'em.

[A Balrog of Morgoth]

Let me help out here. 55 is less than 60

Let me help you out. They only needed 50 plus Chaney to change a two year old Senate Rule.

That was simply beyond the pale for our seven dearly beloved members of the chardonney and brie set.

What a glorious "victory for conservatism".

[cvq3842]

I hope you are right!

Let me tell you where I'm coming from. I often feel like one of the more "moderate" (leftist?) people in the context of these boards. Maybe I am, maybe not. I have often argued with people who said "why vote Republican instead of for a REAL conservative," because it would split the party. Bush is not perfect, but he's miles ahead of Kerry. Why cut off your nose to spite your face. Look how Nader helped Bush, not Gore.

Problem is, people feel very, very betrayed here. It's hard to talk about the judiciary without getting into the specifics of hot-button issues, but on topics like same-sex marriage and abortion on demand, people feel passionately that the voters acting through the legislature and not the courts should have the say. They gave their hard-earned money and worked their butts off to get to this point, and they see a monumental sell-out. They feel deceived and cheated.

Maybe the senators know more than we do. Maybe more can get done in the Senate now and Bush can still get his share of nominees. But in my heart I doubt it. The thousands of posts here since Monday demonstrate that people don't think the Republicans have the nerve to do what they were elected to do. Some have thrown in the towel.

I don't want to see a Hillary Clinton presidency, ever. Her positions and total lack of character make her terribly dangerous. But the Republicans have to be careful not to keep giving a big chunk of their base "half a loaf" or less. If we can't get the changes we want now, then when can we?

Building a third party is tremendously difficult. And it strengthens the opposition in the meantime. Ask a Perot voter. Or just ask Bush 41. Only one "third-party" candidate ever made it to the White House. In 1860.

I didn't mean to go off on you personally. I hope you are right. I am trying to hope for the best. I don't want to go off on a DU-type rant, but I have to be honest.

[Coop]

And they chose not to use that move, amazingly without your permission.

Judge Owen is confirmed, in spite of your best efforts today.

[Fruit of the Spirit]

"Americans who love our Constitution and believe it should be upheld - are VERY ANGRY about this "deal".

AND THAT'S PUTTING IT MILDLY!!!!

McCain should be horse-whipped! Maybe retribution will come in the form of unseating him from any public office.

[B.O. Plenty]

Frist could right now strip the gang of 7 of all of their committee assignments, assign them new, smaller offices and never consider any of their legislation or pork.

If the people in their states re-elect them, so be it.

I want the gang of weasles punished now!

[Tulane]

I hope Frist does put everyone up for a vote...I disagree that the comprimise is unconstitutional. Unwise...probably. Did I disagree with it...absolutley. Is it the end of the world? Come on. McCain should not be president, that is evident. But all this wailing and moaning and nashing of teeth is growing tiresome...we're starting to sound like a bunch of gosh darned liberals with all the whining.

This board needs to be bitch-slapped by Vito Corleone and told "YOU CAN ACT LIKE A MAN!"

[Tulane]

That would be a disastous move...there are many more battles where we will need their support.

[A Balrog of Morgoth]

Yep, mcCain was 99% for himself and 1% for America when he was serving time in a Vietnamese concentration camp. What a coward.

That is just about the lamest strawman in the room today.

You just made a wonderful argument for the election of George McGovern. Although you probably weren't aware of it.

Congratulations.

[Tulane]

Strawman, shrawman...did he not serve his country? Should he be villified for one freaking political move? News flash, I doubt anyone agrees with the way their political candidates vote every time.

Hey, McCain blew it on this one. That doesn't make him the devil.

[Tarpon]

The rabid left figured Bush was going down last year, that's what started the whole filibuster and judicial blocking now almost three years ago. The liberals plus the media party thought they could pull a "Vietnam on Bush".

Now that Bush won and the left has gone nuts, they don't know what to do but continue.

My take, Frist is going to shove the moderates to the wall and off the cliff. He is still the leader and does control the agenda. Revenge is his prerogative, they all want something, like their base to not be closed ;-). We'll see if Frist has the stones. In any event, I bet he blows up the deal which he is not bound by.

[cvq3842]

I cannot honor McCain enough for his war service. I cannot imagine what he went through. I will leave it to others, maybe those who were there also, to critique his time in Vietnam.

But I can wholeheartedly salute him on that and still say he's a lousy senator and/or a lousy Republican.

We have to keep the issues separate. I am peeved also, but I didn't like seeing questions about his war record come up since Monday. if there's an equivalent of the Swifties to critique McCain, that's their right. i don't feel qualified to do that.

Keep 'em separate, folks, is my (unsolicited) advice.

[A Balrog of Morgoth]

You make Tulane's unfortunate foray into hyperbole look like the Gettysburg Address.

You were a hateful moron on the Wilbanks threads, and you're a hateful moron here.

Dang, I've never called another freeper a moron. You really are the bottom of the barrel.

[pogo101]

I wouldn't advise investing much capital in the Rhode Island race. No conservative can win a statewide race there, barring some late-campaign scandal tarring the Democrat or the like.

[Tulane]

Good advice. Let's also keep the hyperbole to a minimum as well.