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CA: Immigration event turns hostile (Minuteman)
The Orange County Register ^ | May 25, 2005 | Martin Wisckol

Posted on 05/26/2005 3:01:03 AM PDT by calcowgirl

GARDEN GROVE — An event honoring an anti-illegal immigrant leader tonight was marred by altercations between anti-immigration activists and protesters, resulting in an arrest when two demonstrators were hit by a slow-moving van.

The driver was Hal Netkin of Van Nuys, said Barbara Coe, chairwoman of the California Coalition for Immigration Reform.

Protesters were blocking a driveway when Netkin tried to drive through and knocked two demonstrators to the ground, Deputy Police Chief K.J. Raney said.

Netkin was arrested on suspicion of assault with a deadly weapon. At least one of the protesters was hospitalized.

"Knowing (Netkin), he panicked," Coe said.

Billy Hall, a member of Coe’s group, said shortly afterward that his car window was broken by a protester. Hall said he filed a police report.

The event sponsored by Coe’s group honored Aliso Viejo resident Jim Gilchrist. Gilchrist’s Minuteman Project last month attracted nearly 900 people to patrol a stretch of Arizona border in an effort to stop entry by illegal immigrants. The effort was praised by Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger but condemned by President George W. Bush, who called the volunteers "vigilantes."

"I’m damned proud to be a vigilante," Gilchrist told the 150 people assembled at the Garden Grove Women’s Club. "How about you?"

He received a rousing ovation. He also said that deporting the millions of people in the country illegally would lower home prices, reduce traffic congestion and lower taxes.

Nearly 100 protesters picketed and chanted on the sidewalk. One sign read, "Beat Back the Racist Attack."

"Their racist acts are being masked by patriotism," said Obed Sanchez of Garden Grove. "To say illegal immigrants are coming over here and ruining our lives is ridiculous. We need immigrants like a tree needs water. Even President Bush recognizes that."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; gardengrove; illegals; immigrantlist; jimgilchrist; minuteman; minutemanproject; mmp
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To: calcowgirl
Three people were injured and at least eight arrested Wednesday in Garden Grove after a motorist drove into a crowd of 300 demonstrators protesting a speech by the founder of the Minuteman Project, authorities said.

What a load of garbage this report (and reporter) are. Makes it sound like the motorist was at fault. Could just as well be written as follows:

Three people were injured and at least eight arrested Wednesday in Garden Grove when a motorist fearing for his safety tried to escape a crowd of 300 demonstrators who had turned violent while protesting a speech by the founder of the Minuteman Project, authorities said.

21 posted on 05/26/2005 6:38:01 AM PDT by BJungNan
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To: CharlieChan; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3rdcanyon; 4.1O dana super trac pak; ...
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300 Protestors throwing rocks, bricks etc and the guy in the car leaving gets busted. What absolute bullsh*t.

Yeah, what Charlie Chan said....

22 posted on 05/26/2005 6:41:48 AM PDT by HiJinx (~ www.ProudPatriots.org ~ Operation 4th of July ~)
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To: CharlieChan

"The folks at the Minuteman meeting should have had numerous video cameras hidden at every angle. With these morons, it's the only way to go."

You got that straight! Webcam would also be nice. People could tape it from somewhere else. The 'Law' likes to seize and bury video tapes these days.


23 posted on 05/26/2005 6:49:40 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (<<<< Profile page streamlined, solely devoted Schiavo research)
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To: truthkeeper
Doug McIntyre is the best thing on talkradio.

I agree.

BTW, you did a much better job of reporting Hal's call than I did. Thanks for posting it.

24 posted on 05/26/2005 6:52:31 AM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: calcowgirl
I spoke to the organizer of the "Unite to Fight" event in Las Vegas this coming Saturday and Sunday and she said that they've had to bring in a lot of extra security because of the threats of violence and the recent behavior of the enemy invaders.
25 posted on 05/26/2005 6:52:47 AM PDT by Spiff (Don't believe everything you think.)
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To: calcowgirl

...condemned by President George W. Bush, who called the volunteers "vigilantes."...

Impeach this bozo.


26 posted on 05/26/2005 6:53:36 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (I leave reason and good manners to those that have them.)
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To: DumpsterDiver

Thanks. I always wanted to be a reporter. :-)


27 posted on 05/26/2005 6:55:49 AM PDT by truthkeeper (It's the borders, stupid.)
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To: HiJinx; JohnHuang2; keri; international american; Kay Soze; jpsb; hershey; TomInNJ; dagnabbit; ...
Turn up the heat a notch or two . .

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An event honoring an anti-illegal immigrant leader tonight was marred by altercations between anti-immigration activists and protesters, resulting in an arrest when two demonstrators were hit by a slow-moving van.

The driver was Hal Netkin of Van Nuys, said Barbara Coe, chairwoman of the California Coalition for Immigration Reform.

Protesters were blocking a driveway when Netkin tried to drive through and knocked two demonstrators to the ground, Deputy Police Chief K.J. Raney said.

Netkin was arrested on suspicion of assault with a deadly weapon. At least one of the protesters was hospitalized.

"Knowing (Netkin), he panicked," Coe said.


28 posted on 05/26/2005 6:59:47 AM PDT by Happy2BMe ("Viva La Migra" - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: calcowgirl

BTTT


29 posted on 05/26/2005 7:01:33 AM PDT by Happy2BMe ("Viva La Migra" - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: CharlieChan

Probaly 300 citezens of mexico who have invaded the USA and broke more laws throwing things at and scaring the driver of the van half to death. He could have been pulled from the van and beatent to death by the mob, instead he was arrested but the lawbreakers go free.
America is lost.


30 posted on 05/26/2005 7:05:42 AM PDT by winodog (We need to pull the fedgov.con's feeding tube)
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To: Happy2BMe

BTTT


31 posted on 05/26/2005 7:06:28 AM PDT by international american (Tagline now flameproof....purchased from "Conspiracy Guy Custom Taglines"LLC)
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To: truthkeeper

Hal Netkin was just on with Doug McIntrye ....

Hal is an old retired fellow. He could get a heart attack from such violent harassment by the Mexican protesters.


32 posted on 05/26/2005 7:06:46 AM PDT by dennisw (He writes everything's been returned which was owed...)
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To: calcowgirl
"Protesters were blocking a driveway when Netkin tried to drive through and knocked two demonstrators to the ground, Deputy Police Chief K.J. Raney said."

I fought the car and the car won,
I fought the car and the car won.

33 posted on 05/26/2005 7:10:51 AM PDT by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: Carbonsteel
How did I know that the Minutemen were the ones that were goin to be made out to be the bad guys?

I'm wondering if this was a set-up. The van gets pelted (not only do these protestors support the invasion, they object to the citizens' right to assembly), tries to escape, and some of these loons step in front of it.

This is an indication that the Minutemen are succeeding, and getting publicity. Everything is going to have to be documented, photographed, and lawyered....the only right these protestors care about is the right to not have to mow their own lawns and clean their own houses.

34 posted on 05/26/2005 7:17:09 AM PDT by grania ("Won't get fooled again")
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To: calcowgirl
Driver rams protesters

Gee, the Seattle Times isn't too biased, is it? Every other report has Netkin slowly driving his car forward. The Seattle Times makes it look like he deliberately rammed into people!

35 posted on 05/26/2005 7:21:03 AM PDT by Nea Wood (I considered atheism but there weren't enough holidays.)
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To: winodog
Probaly 300 citezens of mexico who have invaded the USA and broke more laws throwing things at and scaring the driver of the van half to death

Absolutely right. Most of them probably are illegals. They have no fear of U.S. "law enforcement" anymore.

But it's better than that for them -- the cops are now on their side. Leading to the question: which people, and which country, do the police get their legitimacy from? Who do they "serve"?

The police are nothing more than private citizens (we hope they are actually citizens) hired to do a job that the citizens themselves believe needs to be done by a trained group: enforcing their laws. The police are not a sovereign entity unto themselves, nor are they elected. They derive their legitimacy as a force from the citizenry.

If they now side with the citizens of another country against the citizenry which legitimizes them, they are no longer a legitimate force. In the case of the Garden Grove cops, and a fair number of police forces in California, this is what has happened.

36 posted on 05/26/2005 7:24:08 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: calcowgirl
The protests and references to being racist are exactly the reasons no politician is brave enough to do something about the situation.
37 posted on 05/26/2005 7:24:31 AM PDT by midwyf
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com

Bush does deserved to be impeached for ignoring/encouraging the invasion of tens of millions of illegals. Government admits to 10 million illegals here, the real number is some where between 20 or 30 million. Keep voting GOP for more (much more) of the same.


38 posted on 05/26/2005 7:27:18 AM PDT by jpsb (I already know I am a terrible speller)
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To: sgtbono2002
... suppose Bush is waiting for full scale immigrant riots before waking the hell up.

I've given up on Bush ever understand the depth of feeling about illegal immigration.
39 posted on 05/26/2005 7:27:37 AM PDT by Serenissima Venezia (Hoping to be a California Vigil Antie for the Minuteman Project)
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To: calcowgirl
"To say illegal immigrants are coming over here and ruining our lives is ridiculous. We need immigrants like a tree needs water. Even President Bush recognizes that."

Sad.

40 posted on 05/26/2005 7:27:41 AM PDT by skeeter ("What's to talk about? It's illegal." S Bono)
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