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The Fall of Europe
www.faithfreedom.org ^ | 5/25/05 | Ali Sina

Posted on 05/26/2005 8:40:43 AM PDT by 1 spark

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To: Destro

Well, I'd add Poland (if it ever gets over some of its hangups and hatreds), Hungary, Slovakia as 3 Catholic states of Eastern Europe along with the Orthodox states. Czeck, unfortunetly, is in a downward spiral like the rest of western europe, though Austria, I believe is trying to come out of its spiral.


21 posted on 05/26/2005 12:33:22 PM PDT by jb6 (Truth == Christ)
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To: Dazedcat
At least the average American citizen knows the enemey when they see them.

Which one? The Bible thumpers? The WACO cultists? The Evangelicals? The Militias? The Pro-lifers? Don't count on it, the average American is just as brain washed as the average western European. Even Bush was telling us Islam is a peaceful religion.

22 posted on 05/26/2005 12:34:57 PM PDT by jb6 (Truth == Christ)
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To: Brilliant

Exactly.


23 posted on 05/26/2005 12:58:41 PM PDT by Ashamed Canadian (America - please invade us now!)
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To: conservativewasp

I think you're right, especially given the Europeans' propensity for facism in the past. I think we're already seeing the seeds of it.


24 posted on 05/26/2005 1:00:08 PM PDT by Ashamed Canadian (America - please invade us now!)
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To: conservativewasp
No way, they have to go to Canada. Canada needs an influx of god fearing people.

Ironically, I'd say our biggest group of practicing Christians are all our Italian, Portuguese, Polish and Ukrainian Canadians. They're still here and God fearing, but, unfortunately, trumped by our multi-culti worshippers.

25 posted on 05/26/2005 1:02:36 PM PDT by Ashamed Canadian (America - please invade us now!)
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To: blueblazes

If we are next it is our own stupid fault for still letting Muslims in the country.

Our politicians must be willing to circle the wagons with the rest of the people but I doubt they will. Always remember that for a politician the most important thing is to win the next re-election.


26 posted on 05/26/2005 1:44:53 PM PDT by auburntiger
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To: vox_PL

"I hope America will open its borders for European Christians if need be."

Never happens. Too many liberals, anti-Christians, Muslims and the ACLU here to prevent that. Besides, our politicians would be afraid to be perceived as racist.


27 posted on 05/26/2005 1:51:13 PM PDT by auburntiger
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To: Destro
To hell with Western Europe! Long live Eastern Orthodox Euorpe!

Unfortunatly, when they are done with France, the Euroarabs will start to head East.

28 posted on 05/26/2005 1:51:42 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Dazedcat

"At least the average American citizen knows the enemey when they see them."

Utterly false! The very proof is what happened this week in the Senate.


29 posted on 05/26/2005 1:57:12 PM PDT by auburntiger
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To: 1 spark
If someone calls Muslims filthy, untouchable, impure, he is inciting hate. He should be stopped. This is clearly a racial insult.

Wrong.

30 posted on 05/26/2005 2:00:39 PM PDT by Sir Gawain (Jeb Pilate and the Republican Congress: Stood by while someone died)
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To: Ashamed Canadian

Don't forget how very close we came to a fully socialist "utopia" under FDR. If it wasn't for WW2, FDR would have made us into the SU lite.


31 posted on 05/26/2005 2:16:33 PM PDT by jb6 (Truth == Christ)
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To: redgolum; jb6
Unfortunatly, when they are done with France, the Euroarabs will start to head East.

They will find comfort in Serbia?

32 posted on 05/26/2005 3:51:01 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: Destro
They will find comfort in Serbia?

Probably not. But they will be emboldened to advance more vigorously.

Trust, I haven't forgotten that the Balkans have been the front line in the War on Terror for about 800 years, give or take a century.

33 posted on 05/26/2005 4:10:15 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: redgolum
I am typing half tongue in cheek.
34 posted on 05/26/2005 4:26:48 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: jb6; auburntiger

Well I was assuming that the average person is intelligent enough to see through the psycho-babble and political rhetoric to get to the truth of things.

I still think this is the case. Once a person turns off the endless blathering of the 24 hour "news" stations and the corporate media, stops reading the propoganda spewed forth in many of our most august "news"papers and just goes about ones's daily life.......it really gets pretty clear real quick.

Most other folks that I come in contact with feel more or less the same, regardless of their political persuasions. The enemy is here among us. Our government lets them in too.

Americans aren't a stupid people. Hope springs eternal....at least in my world it does.


Regards;


35 posted on 05/27/2005 7:33:17 AM PDT by Dazedcat
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To: 1 spark
From the article:
Europe is threading a very dangerous path. Two things can happen in Europe:
Islam is left alone to grow unchecked, which means Europe will succumb to Islamism before the end of this century. Or
The Europeans sense the danger too late, panic, and give birth to Eurofascism to counter Islamofascism.

If we are to aceept the author's proposition (and, actually, I do) that there are but two possible courses for European history to take, then the implications are sobering.

If the only alternative to check Islamic rule in Europe is "facism", then we of the West must embrace it. Euro-Christian [caucasian-based] facism must be welcomed (regardless of the distaste in our mouths and hearts) and encouraged to drive the Muslims from Europe with as heavy a hand as necessary, a la Charles Martel. It was not long ago, the Serbians saw the dangers of Islam in Kosovo, and undertook similarly drastic steps to reverse its growth. We stopped them from doing so. Who rules Kosovo today? And what is being done to those traces of Christianity - and the Christians - that remain?

Once The Expulsion has been accomplished, perhaps _only_ after that has come to pass, we then must take whatever actions required to break down Eurofacism and restore democracy and as much as a rule of law and respect for the individual as we might.

If - on the other hand - we _prevent_ the Eurofacists from coming to power, and if we _prevent_ them from expelling the Muslims from Europe by whatever means are required (and I would like to emphasize, _whatever means are required_), then we of The West will doom the Christians of Europe to the same fate as those of Kosovo.

I know which side I'm on. I know which course of history I prefer.

How about you?

Cheers!
- John

36 posted on 05/27/2005 7:35:25 AM PDT by Fishrrman
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To: 1 spark

Faithfreedom is a revolting hate-breathing rag. Its editors know knowthing about freedom, not to mention faith.


37 posted on 05/27/2005 8:29:35 PM PDT by j23
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To: 1 spark
Europe is playing with fire. The path that Europe has taken today will lead to its fall before the end of this century, but more likely it will auto disintegrate in a civil war in the next two or three decades.

Funny, between certain segments of the Mexican populace desiring to annex large portions of the U.S., coupled with the "Don't Look Don't Tell" open border policy and and the neutered politicians in Washington, I've had the same exact feelings about the U.S.

At some point something here is gonna give. The people coming into this country illegally are not exactly "user friendly." It's only a matter of time before they acquire (read vote in) representatives for themselves via a critical mass in population, that seek policies of absolutely no positive interest to the current United States.

The United States of America is slowly, nay, rapidly, becoming the United States of the World. It's either gonna be silent acquiescence or some form of civil war as I see it. But who knows. Perhaps a fragmentation or seccession of numerous states.

As well, I'm thinkin' that that "before the end of the century" is a bit optimistic. I'm thinkin' massive changes everywhere within the next decade.

38 posted on 05/27/2005 8:46:26 PM PDT by Fruitbat
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To: Fishrrman

Of the options you give, I'm with you. However, I would like to believe (fantasize?) that younger generations of Muslims can be educated to realize the truth about Islam - as former Muslims, like Ali Sina, have realized. Yeah, I know...keep dreaming.


39 posted on 05/28/2005 4:09:23 PM PDT by 1 spark
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To: j23
Faithfreedom is a revolting hate-breathing rag. Its editors know knowthing about freedom, not to mention faith.

How do you come to that conclusion? I see Ali Sina as a light to those oppressed in darkness.

40 posted on 05/28/2005 4:12:22 PM PDT by 1 spark
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