1 posted on
05/26/2005 10:30:33 AM PDT by
xzins
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To: Salvation; NYer; Kolokotronis; MarMema; Travis McGee
The death toll (difficult to measure) is roughly, Hitlers holocaust 6 million, Stalins famine and terror 8 million, and Maos famine 30 million. But the greens have topped them all. In a single crime they have killed about 50 million people. In purely numerical terms, it was the worst crime of the 20th century. It took place in the USA in 1972. It was the banning of DDT.
2 posted on
05/26/2005 10:31:22 AM PDT by
xzins
(Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
To: xzins
Neither.....people with evil hearts kill.
3 posted on
05/26/2005 10:32:19 AM PDT by
FeeinTennessee
(Visit me @ peoplepolitical.org --Fee)
To: xzins
The last major war over religion was the Thirty Years War in the 17th Century.
I have to admit, though, that the Muslims are doing their darndest to make the idea fashionable again.
5 posted on
05/26/2005 10:35:37 AM PDT by
colorado tanker
(The People Have Spoken)
To: xzins
There actually really aren't that many religious wars. And many "religious" wars really sort of fall apart as religious wars when you closely examine them.
For example, the 30 Years War was ostensibly Catholics vs. Protestants; however one of the leading figures on the "Protestant" side was France led by Catholic Cardinal Richelieu.
Iraqi Shiites almost universally fought hard against Iranian Shiites in the Iran-Iraq War, rather than assisting Iran...blood (Arab hatred of Persians) was thicker than Religion.
And over history Christians have been infinitely more efficient killers of other Christians, and Moslems more efficient killers of other Moslems, than Christians have been killing Moslems or vice-versa.
To: xzins
Which kills more: ideology or religion? If I have to tell you, then I believe my religion would have me kill you!........
8 posted on
05/26/2005 10:38:04 AM PDT by
Red Badger
(I woke up this morning and discovered my Memory Foam mattress had Alzheimer's......)
To: xzins
This raises another question. Is Islam both a religion and a political ideology?
12 posted on
05/26/2005 10:42:13 AM PDT by
hflynn
To: xzins; xsmommy; Howlin; neverdem; Congressman Billybob
An interesting viewpoint: "Brown" vs "green" vs "red" ...
But what "color" will he declare "international socialism" (Communism, under its green flag of class warfare and envy!) which has killed over 120 millions since Marx began its lies in Germany in the mid-1800's?
14 posted on
05/26/2005 10:42:44 AM PDT by
Robert A Cook PE
(-I can only contribute to FR monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS contributes to her campaign every day)
To: xzins
Ideology comes in three colours: red, brown and green, representing Marxism, fascism and environmental extremism. Scratch a Green, and you'll find a Red. And Brown is simply a deeper shade of Red.
Great article. The writer has his head on straight.
17 posted on
05/26/2005 10:49:33 AM PDT by
Ditto
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To: xzins
I'm going with option C - Idiotology
19 posted on
05/26/2005 10:49:57 AM PDT by
raivyn
(<---------------- The force is strong in that one.)
To: xzins
Which kills more: ideology or religion? Silly silly question.
They are not mutually exclusive.
In the real world most religions do not generate insane ideology, but...
...the ones that do are intolerable among human beings, and worse than a cross between pigs and cockroaches.
20 posted on
05/26/2005 10:50:28 AM PDT by
Publius6961
(The most abundant things in the universe are hydrogen, ignorance and stupidity.)
To: xzins
Which kills more: ideology or religion? Which bites harder: a cougar or a mountain lion? ;)
22 posted on
05/26/2005 10:52:42 AM PDT by
Mr. Jeeves
("Violence never settles anything." Genghis Khan, 1162-1227)
To: xzins
Which kills more: ideology or religion? In this part of the country, apparently it's shouting the following phrase:
"Hey y'all! Check this out!"
23 posted on
05/26/2005 10:52:55 AM PDT by
George Smiley
(This tagline deliberately targeted journalists.)
To: xzins
24 posted on
05/26/2005 10:53:27 AM PDT by
Paleo Conservative
(Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Andrew Heyward's got to go!)
To: xzins
27 posted on
05/26/2005 10:56:04 AM PDT by
Tribune7
To: xzins
Hitlers holocaust 6 million, Stalins famine and terror 8 million, and Maos famine 30 million. But the greens have topped them all. In a single crime they have killed about 50 million people. In purely numerical terms, it was the worst crime of the 20th century. It took place in the USA in 1972. It was the banning of DDT.But... but... They meant well, and might have saved thousands of birds.
That alone absolves them of any and all collateral damage.
I got to go meditate now.
30 posted on
05/26/2005 10:56:34 AM PDT by
Publius6961
(The most abundant things in the universe are hydrogen, ignorance and stupidity.)
To: xzins
More people have been killed in the name of God-duh than for any other reason.
To: xzins
Which kills more: ideology or religion? False dichtomoy: Religion is itself ideology.
(...and furthermore according to a lot of Freepers, non-theistic ideologies are also religions...)
To: All
The death toll (difficult to measure) is roughly, Hitlers holocaust 6 million, Stalins famine and terror 8 million, and Maos famine 30 million. So what were the other millions of citizens killed by Germany's National Socialism, potted plants?
Even the Communists admit to at least 100 million citizens killed by their Communist masters. I believe that is the number in the book, The Black Book of Communism: Crimes, Terror, Repression.
And why are environmentalists called watermelons?
National Socialism, international socialism, green on the outside and red on the inside -- I don't have the brightest pixels here but I see a connection between millions of dead citizens and societies that give too much power to government employees to micro manage things.
To: xzins
Abortions since 1973 have averaged 1.5 million dead fetuses per year, haven't they? The math on that (48 million) beats the records of both Stalin and Hitler.
51 posted on
05/26/2005 11:34:48 AM PDT by
Marauder
(Politicians use words the way a squid uses ink.)
To: xzins
Religion only kills when it becomes an ideology - As Islam is - As Christianity was from Milvian Bridge (317) to the dissolution of the Papal States (1870).
67 posted on
05/26/2005 12:06:12 PM PDT by
UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
(Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth...)
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