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Posted on 05/26/2005 8:11:47 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan
Substitute Teacher Fired for Taping Mouths
TERRE HAUTE, Ind. - A substitute teacher who was fired after putting small pieces of tape across the mouths of first-graders because they would not stop talking said she did not mean any harm.
Vigo County schools officials fired Sheryl Smith this week after parents told them that she had taped six children's mouths at Fuqua Elementary School.
"A substitute teacher used extremely poor judgment," said John Orr, director of human resources.
Smith had put the tape on vertically, and it did not cover the children's mouths, although they could not talk. She did it because some of the children would not be quiet, Orr said.
"That's something we don't tolerate in the Vigo County School Corporation," Orr said. "She is terminated ... she will not work for the corporation anymore."
But Smith, who often substituted for the class, said she taped the students' mouths in a playful way.
"It was a little piece of Scotch tape," she said. "I was just joking with them. I think it's blown clear out of proportion."
Orr contacted Vigo County Child Protective Services about what happened but believes the agency would not pursue it because no children were injured.
None of the kids appeared upset in class, and the tape wasn't on very long, Smith said.
I am getting really sick of seeing all these news articles about teachers abusing our children!!
Doesn't she know to use duct tape (handy man's secret helper) for these larger drafts.
Oh the days when you could get a ruler smashed across the knuckles for yapping in class.....I guess the those days weren`t so bad afterall.
Now we have scotch tape over the lips ... the horror !!!!
In the classroom?
Not at all...I would rather see the school administer corporal punishment...spankings with the board of education than for them to have teachers exerting their control issues on the children by taping their mouth.
Why? You would rather see them hit the kids then jokingly, as the teacher said, put tape on their mouths? I'm not following your logic for hitting kids for talking.
If a teacher taped one of my kids mouth shut, without my consent, well, that teacher would be counting the teeth lost due to my response.
I'm not saying the kids should be hit for talking...I'm saying the school needs to do better on what type of discipline is allowed. Showing a tendency as a control freak by taping the kids' mouth is not acceptable.
Children need to be properly disciplined, not degraded.
And what would be proper dicipline in your opinion.
When I was in the first grade, a teacher made me stick a bar of soap in my mouth for cursing.
That didn't work out well, I ate part of the soap and she freaked out.
She never did use that punishment again as far as I know.
For talking when they are not suppose to be, tell the child to sit down and listen, or they would lose their recess.
I must be really tired, I can't figure out what you are trying to say here.
I think it more of a training issue with the teacher than the school endorses this type of discipline. The school fired the teacher so obviously the school doesn't allow taping kids mouths shut.
Taping the child's mouth shut is like saying the child has no right to speak. (I'm bigger than you are, so I can force you to shut up!!) I don't agree with that.
If you need the children to be quiet to conduct your class activities, tell them to listen, if they choose to continue to disrupt, threaten to take away their play time so you can make up what was lost by their disruption.
Teaches consequences for their actions, and does not make them feel inferior to a control freak.
We have an - argumentative - child. Talks back to me, I point out the error of his ways, physically, immediately. He stops.
My wife will talk at him for hours, and decries any form of corporal punishment. They SCREAM at each other for hours, I mean, unless I step in.
For my money, she is abusing the kid.
Problem with that response is teacher looses teeth (and job), you go to jail and kid takes off tape and goes outside and plays. Not sure the lesson you would be imparting by going to jail over a piece of tape.
I agree...it was the teacher's decision to use that method...I agree with the schools decision to not use her as a substitute anymore, though it could have been just as appropriate to reprimand her so she understood that was not allowed and give her another chance. If she messed up again, press charges!
Oh. I'm dumb enough to be caught.
But, to this day, I think SPANKING the child, correcting him, and giving him a hug, is one heck of a lot less cruel then yelling at him for days.
OK, that is reasonable. But I really don't think this falls into the category of 'abuse'.
Same thing in my house. No problem with corporal punishment, actually mo problem with the tape thing as long as it was done in the spirit of fun--which sounds really weird, but I can see a teacher kidding with the kids to be quiet or "I'll tape your mouth". Problem is, from my experience, all the kids at that age would want it also after one of them got it.
I am a firm believer of corporal punishment. My kids require hindside dust removal services occasionally. Once I knock the dust off, they have a new outlook on life, at least for a little while. I do have to administer reminders.
My kids are aware of what happens if they don't obey me, and their teachers. They usually only have to be told once what is expected. If I have to tell them twice, they are due a reminder!
I hate to say it but, you are part of the problem that is inherent in modern day schools. This tape is NO big deal, the teacher is older and the children should have no right to speak in class out of turn.
I hear you on that.
Good - I misunderstood you, then.
You must be one of those "Children are to be seen, not heard" people. How do you expect a child to grow into a capable adult if you inhibit their growth and creativity when they are children?
The tape is a big deal in my opinion...it is the device of a control freak!
Now, I might disagree with the whole tape thing. But my disagreement would consist of, "Well, did you slap him???"
Tape seems odd.
I think we are sorta on the same page here. ;)
I think so too. Good to know I'm not the only one who feels this way! :)
Tape seems odd.
That's why I don't think it was intended as "punishment" as much as it was the teacher trying to handle the situation light heartedly. But who knows, she could have been a crusty old mean b*tch just looking to degrade the kids and take total control of the situation while using them as an example for the other little demons. Now that I think about it, yep that's the ticket.
But if it were my kid, I would be asking questions.
I'd ask mine "we're you talking?" If the answer was yes then I'd say "got what you deserved".
My only problem is did the teacher cause undo physicial or mental harm to a 6 or 7 year old child. I think some sort of action was necessary. Let us not forget schools no longer use red ink to guide students' learning, or perish the thought, using 1, 2, or 3 for a grade instead of A-F.
GIVE ME A FREAKING BREAK
Exactly, give me a break.
I'm fine with this as long as the subs don't go crying to the principle when we give them the old routine. Same goes for teachers. We'll see who can dish it and who can take it!
They sure would pitch a bi*ch if we did this, wouldn't they?!! They would be screaming that we were abusing our children and insisting that social services take our kids and put them in foster homes. Yet, somehow, it's ok for them to do it.
I believe the teacher intended (not in fun) to degrade the kids, and only cried foul when she was told her job was over!