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The Union Leader ^ | May 27, 2005 | NHAntiMassRedRebel

Posted on 05/27/2005 1:28:06 PM PDT by NHAntiMassRedRebel

Danger! Unlicensed manicurist on the loose!

FEAR NOT, gentle people of New Hampshire. Mike Fisher has been apprehended. For the time being we can rest easy knowing that this man is unable to file another fingernail without the proper credentials.

On Monday two Concord police officers arrested Fisher for manicuring without a license. In New Hampshire, it is illegal to give someone a manicure unless you have first graduated from high school or obtained your GED, “(h)ave completed a course of at least 300 hours of professional training in manicuring, in a school approved by the (state Board of Barbering, Cosmetology, and Esthetics) and passed an examination conducted by the board” or, as an apprentice in a salon, received experience equivalent to the 300 hours of schooling.

Of course women and girls give themselves and their friends manicures every day, and the police have better things to do than spy on slumber parties. What got Fisher arrested was his civil disobedience. He demonstrated the absurdity of the law by setting up shop outside the state licensing office and giving a friend an illegal manicure.

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To: RegulatorCountry

I hate 'em both. Most of us do, actually. I resent that they feel they can take over, and what they'll find is that if they are going to come to power they will have to compromise their views a bit. Legalized drugs and prostitution? WE CAN'T EVEN GET E-Z PASS!


41 posted on 05/27/2005 2:30:00 PM PDT by NHAntiMassRedRebel (Our only fault is that we're 40 minutes north of Boston.)
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To: agitator

Gee, are you one of them? If you are you wouldn't even have license plates, guy! Nice try though.


42 posted on 05/27/2005 2:31:33 PM PDT by NHAntiMassRedRebel (Our only fault is that we're 40 minutes north of Boston.)
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To: NHAntiMassRedRebel
...huge problem with AIDS being passed in barber shops...

What were they doing there? AIDS transmission requires certain bodily fluids to be transferred. Perhaps if they were shaving people one after another with the same blade, some small amount of blood could be transferred. This is why I shave myself and never share my blade with anyone else. I remeber a store about a family with 3 hemophiliac sons. One got AIDS from a blood transfusion. The other 2 from sharing a razor with him.

43 posted on 05/27/2005 2:32:59 PM PDT by MichiganConservative (Government IS the problem.)
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To: NJ_gent

See, I knew it. Health affects everybody, that was my point. There are plenty of cases before standards were put in place of people getting diseases from trips to dentists and tattoo parlors. I'm sure barber shops, too. I just hadn't heard about it in this country, only China. That's why I used them for an example.


44 posted on 05/27/2005 2:34:05 PM PDT by NHAntiMassRedRebel (Our only fault is that we're 40 minutes north of Boston.)
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To: MichiganConservative

Perhaps the details are wrong as this was a while ago. Three sons in the family and at least 1 hemophiliac; not necessarily 3 hemophiliac sons. And store should be story.


45 posted on 05/27/2005 2:35:29 PM PDT by MichiganConservative (Government IS the problem.)
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To: MichiganConservative

Um-hmm, my point exactly. You don't know who was there before you in a public setting. So, for the general good, states pass laws that require certain standards be met before the business is opened. I know that isn't a 100% guarantee on anything, but it is for the general good and in my opinion shouldn't be done away with.

I don't want to pay taxes for somebody else's food stamps. I don't want to support some old fart through social security when it won't be there for me. But I don't mind paying into the general safety of the public. Licensing somewhat insures this and shouldn't be done away with in my opinion.


46 posted on 05/27/2005 2:39:34 PM PDT by NHAntiMassRedRebel (Our only fault is that we're 40 minutes north of Boston.)
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To: NHAntiMassRedRebel

And here's a story about a dentist in Florida that intentionally infected several of his patients with HIV, including a 13 year old girl. No mention of him not having a license.
http://www.aegis.com/news/ads/1993/AD931763.html


47 posted on 05/27/2005 2:39:47 PM PDT by MichiganConservative (Government IS the problem.)
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To: NJ_gent

"The country with more government than just about anyone has problems with something, so the solution for other nations is more government?"

If you're a hammer, after a while everything starts to look like a nail, LOL.


48 posted on 05/27/2005 2:40:18 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry (Esse Quam Videre)
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To: NHAntiMassRedRebel
"Health affects everybody, that was my point."

If bigger government made a positive difference in things like regulating the private sector, then I might be inclined to agree with you. However, the one gift from socialist and communist nations around the world to the rest of us is a plain and simple warning of just how poorly government functions for most things compared to the free market.

Perhaps that's why China is beginning to deregulate small areas of the country to allow them to grow as mini-free market areas. Perhaps that's why those areas are booming compared to the rest of China. It's so obvious that government does a poor job of regulating the free market that even communists are waking up to the fact.
49 posted on 05/27/2005 2:42:10 PM PDT by NJ_gent (Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.)
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To: NHAntiMassRedRebel

"I hate 'em both. Most of us do, actually."

I'm willing to venture a guess that, over time, you'll begin to hate less those whose views are least inimical to your own. So, if I were in your position, I'd probably reserve the condemnation for the socialists who'd really muck things up, and good. Does this make any sense?


50 posted on 05/27/2005 2:45:17 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry (Esse Quam Videre)
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To: NHAntiMassRedRebel

I'm not a freestater, or a Libertarian, if that's what you mean. I've spent over 15 years in NE, including MA & NH. The "Live Free or Die" is a nice idea for a state motto, it's probably the worst bad joke there is on a license plate.


51 posted on 05/27/2005 2:46:25 PM PDT by agitator (...And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark)
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To: NHAntiMassRedRebel

If the government knows the best practices, it could serve the public much better by publishing their information for the general public to consume. Such as PSA's on TV and radio.

But this really isn't about public health. This is about busy-body bureaucrats telling more and more people how to live their lives.


52 posted on 05/27/2005 2:47:00 PM PDT by MichiganConservative (Government IS the problem.)
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To: MichiganConservative

"This is about busy-body bureaucrats telling more and more people how to live their lives."

... and coercing quite a bit of money out of businesspeople in the process.


53 posted on 05/27/2005 2:48:35 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry (Esse Quam Videre)
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To: NHAntiMassRedRebel

Nail cutting should be nationalized, unionized, and heavily regulated.


54 posted on 05/27/2005 2:52:04 PM PDT by ran15
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To: NHAntiMassRedRebel
But, I will never agree with the Libertarian notion that every individual is fully capable of governing themselves. For the general public to be fully protected (including those who aren't capable of making those decisions, such as kids and disabled adults) the law needs to step in somewhere.

The thing is that for the government to protect these people, they pass laws that affect me as as well. And why aren't the parents of the children responsible for their safety? Why is the state responsible for the safety of every child from bad businessmen?

Why exactly would the municipality be liable if I go to a bad barber and he cuts part of my ear off? I'd sue the barber, not the city. Licensed barber or not.

55 posted on 05/27/2005 2:53:32 PM PDT by MichiganConservative (Government IS the problem.)
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To: RegulatorCountry

Well, yes. Except for one thing: we aren't a bunch of hicks who can be bought, sold, or manipulated. That is the real reason why I, and most other Granite Staters, resent them choosing us. I don't think that's unreasonable. The whole idea that we are dumb and easily manipulated is patently offensive, and if you do some research into the movement they were looking for a rural state with a small population of people who were, in so many words, uninformed. How would you feel?

I think that the Libertarian party has alot of good qualities, and that these are the extremists. Hell, anybody who would pack up and move somewhere totally new on the basis of a political experiment has to be an extremist. I think that licensing from the government, despite a few drawbacks, is in place for a very good reason.

Hey everybody, let's all become Freestaters and give everybody, including the blind and illegal immigrants, drivers' licenses! Hmmm....

And you thought they drove bad in Mass!!!


56 posted on 05/27/2005 2:54:10 PM PDT by NHAntiMassRedRebel (Our only fault is that we're 40 minutes north of Boston.)
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To: NHAntiMassRedRebel

I've read some of their material. It seemed to me that they were looking for a state with a relatively small population which already had a lot of libertarian leanings. The small population aspect was so that 20,000 political activists could come in and make a difference by evangelizing about how nifty freedom from government nannyism is.


57 posted on 05/27/2005 2:59:16 PM PDT by MichiganConservative (Government IS the problem.)
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To: ran15

"Nail cutting should be nationalized, unionized, and heavily regulated."

LOL, and the degrading, bourgeois practice of performing pedicures and toenail painting shall be vigorously protested as being a reactionary relic of bloodsucking capitalists, but only during the mandatory 35 hour work week.


58 posted on 05/27/2005 2:59:48 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry (Esse Quam Videre)
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To: agitator

I kinda like it, and in a state that has a property tax as it's only major tax it rings true for the most part. No income tax, no sales tax. I like that one.

We need to let go of the Old Man though. He needs to be taken off.

I never would've guessed that you weren't one. That license plate was about the most Libertarian thing I've ever seen, except that they probably wouldn't have plates.


59 posted on 05/27/2005 3:02:42 PM PDT by NHAntiMassRedRebel (Our only fault is that we're 40 minutes north of Boston.)
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To: NHAntiMassRedRebel

"The whole idea that we are dumb and easily manipulated is patently offensive, and if you do some research into the movement they were looking for a rural state with a small population of people who were, in so many words, uninformed. How would you feel?"

As I mentioned before, I'm a southerner. I probably have more exposure to this sort of attitude than you realize. I'm also quite familiar with the Free State Project. I'd call myself a "small l" libertarian; I will vote for the Libertarian candidate if there is little potential consequence from doing so, and vote Republican when it really matters. The reason New Hampshire was chosen had nothing do to with a sense of disdain for NH natives; on the contrary, they believed and still believe that you have the most in common with them. That is a very important distinction... they respect you and your views and your style of governance, with a relative lack of government interference.

I've had to learn to accept that my hometown and county are going to change. It's not something that can easily be halted, no matter how much I might want it to be. Many, if not most, of the "outsiders" that I have to deal with really do believe that we natives are ignorant hicks. This is a belief that goes back centuries. The Free Stater "outsiders" you're having to deal with chose to come to your state because it was seen as the one place most hospitable to them, with people who came the closest to agreeing with their beliefs. I'd trade our arrogant yankees for your Free Staters in a heartbeat. Wanna swap?


60 posted on 05/27/2005 3:10:04 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry (Esse Quam Videre)
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