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The Union Leader ^ | May 27, 2005 | NHAntiMassRedRebel

Posted on 05/27/2005 1:28:06 PM PDT by NHAntiMassRedRebel

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Okay, I've kept quiet about this long enough. I alluded to it in my last post. Yes, I have a life, it's just my day off.

WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU FREESTATERS THINKING! I don't mean to offend all Libertarians, but the extremists in your party are going to make fools out of you!

If you really think that you are going to come to NH, set up compounds disguised as housing developments, and take over the state you might be in for a surprise. NH is a very funny political animal. You might think that we approve of you, but then find yourself stabbed in the back. At the very least, expect to compromise some of your views.

Nobody is getting a haircut in NH from a public-serving barber without a license because NOBODY IN NH WANTS AIDS! DUHHHHH! If you want your buddy to cut your hair and risk your health that's your business. Get it?

1 posted on 05/27/2005 1:28:06 PM PDT by NHAntiMassRedRebel
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I would bet that most States have a professional licensing requirement like this. If the guy did the manicure with the expectation of payment in return, then he engaged in the practice of a regulated profession requiring licensure. I ought to post the "professions" my State licenses...it is good for laugh.


2 posted on 05/27/2005 1:38:12 PM PDT by Lekker 1 ("Who the hell wants to hear actors talk?"- Harry M. Warner, Warner Bros., 1927)
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"If you want your buddy to cut your hair and risk your health that's your business. Get it?"

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't that the entire point of this exercise? That it's none of the government's business?
3 posted on 05/27/2005 1:39:07 PM PDT by NJ_gent (Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.)
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To: NHAntiMassRedRebel

Licensing is the socialist answer to personal responsibility.


4 posted on 05/27/2005 1:39:29 PM PDT by agitator (...And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark)
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Cutting hair won't give you AIDS, or get you AIDS, either. Cutting the skin under that hair, with an instrument that has been contaminated with the AIDS virus might...

What the heck happened to "Live Free or Die?"


5 posted on 05/27/2005 1:39:37 PM PDT by Old Student (WRM, MSgt, USAF (Ret.))
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What the heck happened to "Live Free or Die?"

Live Free or Die is the joke they have on their license plates.


6 posted on 05/27/2005 1:40:59 PM PDT by agitator (...And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark)
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OTOH..it probably got a lot of publicity for the FS movement. Ridicule is a very effective weapon against government excess..


7 posted on 05/27/2005 1:41:54 PM PDT by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to pass on her gene pool...any volunteers???)
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The editorial is B.S. It says that anyone doing any barbering, hairdressing, or manicuring to friends or family in the privacy of your own home is breaking the law. Bullcr*p! It's if you do it for PAY that you're subject to licensing. Same applies to lots of other activities.




8 posted on 05/27/2005 1:42:33 PM PDT by LibFreeOrDie (L'chaim!)
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"Live Free or Die is the joke they have on their license plates."

Do you suppose they have the borders sealed so people who don't like the rules there can't leave? It is still possible to leave California, for example, or was last August, when I left there for what is probably the last time in my life...


9 posted on 05/27/2005 1:43:57 PM PDT by Old Student (WRM, MSgt, USAF (Ret.))
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My mother and other women her age used to give haircuts to people in college in the 60's for extra money. I guess they were all a bunch of criminals who deserved to do time, huh? What are you, a statist?


10 posted on 05/27/2005 1:45:50 PM PDT by MichiganConservative (Government IS the problem.)
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"If you really think that you are going to come to NH, set up compounds disguised as housing developments, and take over the state you might be in for a surprise. NH is a very funny political animal. You might think that we approve of you, but then find yourself stabbed in the back. At the very least, expect to compromise some of your views. "

The "big L" Libertarians involved in the Free State Project chose New Hampshire over Montana, Wyoming and other states precisely BECAUSE it is a funny political animal... being the closest thing to Libertarian already, among smaller states where their intended numbers (20,000 I believe) might have some hope of swaying the political process. I, for one, find it an interesting political exercise and am glad that they're doing it. What is it about Libertarianism and/or Libertarians that you find off-putting or threatening? They're not going to force anything on you, me or anyone else.


11 posted on 05/27/2005 1:46:03 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry (Esse Quam Videre)
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"Licensing is the socialist answer to personal responsibility."

It's also a convenient way to raise money in the form of fees.


12 posted on 05/27/2005 1:46:51 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry (Esse Quam Videre)
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Getting nicked by scissors and breaking the skin because somebody didn't know what they were doing could give you AIDS. It's really no different than getting a tattoo or visiting a dentist, tattoo artist, or body piercer who doesn't practice proper sterilization techniques.

Licensing is set up to protect the public IF THEY WANT TO BE PROTECTED. You have the option of doing all those things informally in your home if you want to, and it's legal in NH. But if you choose to sell that service to the public the state has guidelines that need to be followed for public safety.

And hey, you'll make more money, too! That's some Live Free or Die! You don't have to compromise your long-term health to get that nipple ring!


13 posted on 05/27/2005 1:47:30 PM PDT by NHAntiMassRedRebel (Our only fault is that we're 40 minutes north of Boston.)
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To: RegulatorCountry

I think you meant to reply to another poster. :)


14 posted on 05/27/2005 1:49:35 PM PDT by NJ_gent (Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.)
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The only reason NH maintains any semblence of what it once was is that it has a volunteer (i.e., unpaid) legislature. Nothing happens in NH quickly which is why the massholes/mainiacs and vermont socialists haven't fully trashed the place yet.


15 posted on 05/27/2005 1:49:46 PM PDT by agitator (...And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark)
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Well, Gov. Benson lost the election in part because he supported them. That should tell you something right there.


16 posted on 05/27/2005 1:49:49 PM PDT by NHAntiMassRedRebel (Our only fault is that we're 40 minutes north of Boston.)
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WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU FREESTATERS THINKING!

I dunno, but I belive they're thinking it isn't the governments place to limit competition in the beauty business as well as the fact that government shouldn't be able to collect all those licensing and renewal fees that keep little- headed state bureaucrats employed.

17 posted on 05/27/2005 1:51:09 PM PDT by groanup (http://fairtax.org)
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"I think you meant to reply to another poster. :)"

Oh, sorry about that.


18 posted on 05/27/2005 1:51:43 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry (Esse Quam Videre)
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Friends is the key word in your argument. Selling your services to the general public, meaning complete strangers who don't know you but want some form of assurance in your skills, requires a license.

And it should. I assume that you want all illegal aliens to drive without licenses. What are you, a Mechista?


19 posted on 05/27/2005 1:52:13 PM PDT by NHAntiMassRedRebel (Our only fault is that we're 40 minutes north of Boston.)
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"Licensing is set up to protect the public IF THEY WANT TO BE PROTECTED. You have the option of doing all those things informally in your home if you want to, and it's legal in NH."

No it isn't; it's simply not enforced when it's done in the privacy of your own home. That's like saying it's legal to carry around baggies of cocaine in the privacy of your own home. Just because the police aren't there arresting you doesn't mean it's any less illegal. Licensing can be done by the private sector if it so chooses. That then gives people the option to go to licensed folks if they make the decision to do so. The only place the state should get involved is in cases where people are fraudulently claiming to be licensed when they, in fact, are not.
20 posted on 05/27/2005 1:52:40 PM PDT by NJ_gent (Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.)
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