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Russian Boxer Valuev Number One WBA Heavyweight
Moscow News ^ | 27.05.2005

Posted on 05/27/2005 1:52:24 PM PDT by lizol

Russian Boxer Valuev Number One WBA Heavyweight

Russian boxer Nikolai Valuev has reached the top of the WBA heavyweight rating.

Earlier, Valuev, Russia’s largest boxer at 151 kilograms and a height of 215 centimeters, occupied the third place in the list.

Valuev will thus fight the current WBA heavyweight champion John Ruiz as the latter he defends his title.

The Russian’s manager, Wilfried Sauerland, was quoted by RTR-Sport television channel as saying he will take all measures to make the match between Valuev and Ruiz take place this year.

Valuev has so far won 43 matches and lost none. In 32 of the matches, he won with a knockout. He has reached the ninth place in the WBC rating list.



TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: boxing; caveman; missinglink; russia; russian; sport; throwback; valuev
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1 posted on 05/27/2005 1:52:25 PM PDT by lizol
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To: Lukasz; Grzegorz 246; Pomian; anonymoussierra

Geez! Look at this man!


2 posted on 05/27/2005 1:53:39 PM PDT by lizol
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To: lizol

Damn, that is one ugly dude.


3 posted on 05/27/2005 1:53:54 PM PDT by sharktrager (The masses will trade liberty for a more quiet life.)
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To: lizol

I bet he learned all his english from Rocky IV. He will break you!


4 posted on 05/27/2005 1:55:36 PM PDT by Righty_McRight
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To: lizol
He may be #1 in the WBA (in boxing politics anything is possible), but none of pro boxing's other alphabet soup governing bodies has him in the top 10.

He's a joke, and would be destroyed by any of the top heavies -- the Klitschkos, Byrd, Toney, Brewster, Peter, etc.

(Yeah, the heavyweight division is in a sad state these days).

5 posted on 05/27/2005 1:57:55 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: lizol

Geez, not only is he huge but he's got a mean 5 punch combo. Left, left, right, left, middle upper cut!!!!!!


6 posted on 05/27/2005 1:59:17 PM PDT by BigDaddyTX
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To: Mr. Mojo
He has reached the ninth place in the WBC rating list.

Surprising.

7 posted on 05/27/2005 1:59:18 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: lizol

How many arms does this man have? One- is touching his ear, two- is holding the belt, three-is making a fist. No wonder he is the best… his opponents don’t know where the punches are coming from.

Holtz
JeffersonRepublic.com


8 posted on 05/27/2005 2:04:24 PM PDT by JeffersonRepublic.com (Free Northern California... Great State of Jefferson)
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To: lizol
Ring Magazines top Heavyweights (this is the best ranking)
Weight Unlimited
Champion: Vitali Klitchko
1. Chris Byrd
2. James Toney
3. John Ruiz
4. Hasim Rahman
5. Monte Barrett
6. Andrew Golota
7. Calvin Brock
8. Lamon Brewster
9. Fres Oquendo
10. Samuel Peter
9 posted on 05/27/2005 2:05:06 PM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("In any compromise between good and evil, it is only evil that can profit." AYN RAND)
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To: lizol

10 posted on 05/27/2005 2:06:48 PM PDT by Plutarch
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To: JeffersonRepublic.com
If the right one don't getcha
the left one will or
the middle one will.
11 posted on 05/27/2005 2:06:59 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: lizol
Not worse looking than Golota and unlike Andrew he can fight.
12 posted on 05/27/2005 2:08:00 PM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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To: Grzegorz 246

I think he could just look you to death.


13 posted on 05/27/2005 2:09:07 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
6. Andrew Golota.

Hmmmm..., I think not anymore.

This a**hole is just pathetic. Causes nothing but shame for all the Poles.
14 posted on 05/27/2005 2:09:35 PM PDT by lizol
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To: Grzegorz 246
You have know idea how to recognize a real boxing champion.

Haven't you seen how perfectly Andrew fell between the ropes???
Only the real champion can do it that way! :-)))
15 posted on 05/27/2005 2:12:23 PM PDT by lizol
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To: lizol

Agree but it just shows how poor the heavyweight are.

I do believe George Foreman could wipe the floor with the bottom 6 or 7.


16 posted on 05/27/2005 2:13:13 PM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("In any compromise between good and evil, it is only evil that can profit." AYN RAND)
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To: lizol

"Andrew Golota"

What was his deal with the low blow's? I thought maybe he
was just tired but then he started up again early in a fight
with the low blow's. He seemed really mad at himself when
he did it but what the heck? Maybe he only sparred with midgets or something.


17 posted on 05/27/2005 2:14:44 PM PDT by BigDaddyTX
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To: sharktrager
We asked the captain what course
of action he proposed to take toward
a beast so large, terrifying, and unpredictable.
He hesitated to answer, and then said judiciously:
"I think I shall praise it."

--Robert Hass


18 posted on 05/27/2005 2:16:15 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Plutarch

Yikes! I hope outside the ring this guy has a gentle personality.


19 posted on 05/27/2005 2:16:59 PM PDT by stevem
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To: lizol

That's 332 lbs, great for wrestling but way too big and heavy to be a serious prizefighter. You don't gain any punching power after about 225 lbs. Anything past that is just extra weight to carry around. Somebody like Joe Louis would demolish him.


20 posted on 05/27/2005 2:16:59 PM PDT by tahotdog
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To: Grzegorz 246

21 posted on 05/27/2005 2:18:47 PM PDT by lizol
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To: lizol
"Russia’s largest boxer at 151 kilograms and a height of 215 centimeters..."

That's about 333 lbs., and a little over 7 ft. tall?! Yikes!

22 posted on 05/27/2005 2:18:51 PM PDT by watchin (People become leftists as a sort of gesture of infantile rage against their parents)
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To: Plutarch
I think Kid McCoy once fought this guy. As Frankie Laine intoned regarding that contest: C'mon, Kid...C'mon, Kid...Let's hit'm with a left and a right...Go on, Kid...Go on, Kid...But how were they to know it was the Kid's last fight...
23 posted on 05/27/2005 2:21:30 PM PDT by stevem
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To: lizol
Geeze, did they do a DNA test on this guy to see if he is a human?
24 posted on 05/27/2005 2:21:55 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Mesocons for Rice '08)
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To: watchin

Muhammed Ali... desposed soundly Ernie Terrell who was 6' 8" or more I believe. I don't know if there is anyone even close to the ability of Ali fighting today, so therefore a plug like this might make it to the title.

nick


25 posted on 05/27/2005 2:22:47 PM PDT by nikos1121
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To: nikos1121

Terrell was 6-6 if memory serves.


26 posted on 05/27/2005 2:28:49 PM PDT by Deb8
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To: lizol

A lot of times power carries a boxer pretty far. When the power goes, there was not so much skill behind it.


27 posted on 05/27/2005 2:28:51 PM PDT by RightWhale (These problems would not exist if we had had a moon base all along)
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To: Deb8

I met him, he seems taller. But it can easily be looked up. Do you want to fight about it? :-)

nick


28 posted on 05/27/2005 2:31:18 PM PDT by nikos1121
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To: nikos1121
I don't know if there is anyone even close to the ability of Ali fighting today

I watched a couple of Clay/Ali fights on ESPNCL with my son the other day. He was amazed to find that names like Frazier, Foreman and Ali were all fighting in the same time period.

I can't even name a heavyweight today. I hated Ali when I was a kid, because he was such a blowhard. Looking back, though, he was really a great athlete.

29 posted on 05/27/2005 2:32:22 PM PDT by watchin (People become leftists as a sort of gesture of infantile rage against their parents)
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To: lizol

Boze kochany toc to nie czlowiek. Z taka twarza to mozna noc przestraszyc leje ze smiechu dzieki lizol
English
Help Help Help mega help Achtung!!!Achtung!!!Achtung!!!"Huston we have problem":}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}


30 posted on 05/27/2005 2:33:05 PM PDT by anonymoussierra (In te credo, in te spero, te amo, te adoro, beata Trinitas unus Deus, miserere mei nunc et in hora m)
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To: Mike Darancette


Oh my God!

Looks like some of them survived!!
31 posted on 05/27/2005 2:46:10 PM PDT by lizol
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To: lizol
With a 43-0 record, 7'2" tall, and 332 pounds, Nikolai Valuev is an imposing figure of a man. He knocked out Clifford Etienne in the 3rd round of their WBA intercontinental title bout in Bayreauth, Germany on May 14, 2005

Etienne, the Black Rhino, has a fairly impressive record against top competition. He has beaten Lamon Brewster and Lawrence Clay-Bey. Tyson knocked him out in the 1st round.

32 posted on 05/27/2005 2:57:05 PM PDT by kabar
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
I love the Ring rankings but I wish they would have the guts to dismiss Ruiz' title. He has never beaten a great fighter. His wins are never impressive. He not only was beaten by a former middleweight champion, he was beaten by two of them. The guy simply can not box. He has benefited from weak competition and inept officiating.
33 posted on 05/27/2005 3:19:57 PM PDT by sharktrager (The masses will trade liberty for a more quiet life.)
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To: tahotdog
That's 332 lbs, great for wrestling but way too big and heavy to be a serious prizefighter. You don't gain any punching power after about 225 lbs. Anything past that is just extra weight to carry around. Somebody like Joe Louis would demolish him.,/i>

LOL. Where did you come up with that one? Punching power is more than weight, but size does matter. Why? It is called physics: Force=Mass x Acceleration.

It goes back to Newton's second law of motion. The acceleration of an object as produced by a net force is directly proportional to the magnitude of the net force, in the same direction as the net force, and inversely proportional to the mass of the object.

All things considered equal a 330 lb guy can hit harder than a 225 pound guy. Put another way, the 225 lb heavyweight can outpunch the 125 lb Featherweight or 120 lb Super Bantamweight.

Louis was 6'2" and 207 in his prime. His superior boxing skills would have probably carried him to victory. Although Louis is rated as the greatest puncher of all time by Ring nmagazine, I don't know if he would have knocked this guy out. He would be giving away 125 pounds. Louis was 69-3 with 55 KOs.

Primo Carnera only weighed 260 when Louis KO's him in 6. Billy Conn, a lightheavy, shook Louis up several times in their first fight and would have beat him by decision if the hard headed Irishman hadn't decided to try to take Louis out by KO. Instead Conn got KO'd in the 13th round.

34 posted on 05/27/2005 3:24:34 PM PDT by kabar
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To: jb6; Destro

Ping


35 posted on 05/27/2005 3:38:07 PM PDT by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: sharktrager

My pappy used to say - "Never pick a fight a man uglier than yourself - he has nothing to lose." By that standard, I'm not sure there is anyone on earth who should fight this guy.


36 posted on 05/27/2005 3:48:26 PM PDT by TheHound (You would be paranoid too - if everyone was out to get you.)
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To: lizol

This Dude is definitely carrying some "throwback genes" and they're probably the ones used to slay Wooly Mammoths or such.

mc:<)


37 posted on 05/27/2005 3:49:16 PM PDT by mcshot (Boldly going nowhere with a smile and appreciation for life.)
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To: tahotdog
That's 332 lbs, great for wrestling but way too big and heavy to be a serious prizefighter. You don't gain any punching power after about 225 lbs.

Primo Canera went about 270 and was 6'7".

38 posted on 05/27/2005 4:20:50 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Mesocons for Rice '08)
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To: Mike Darancette
Primo Canera was 6-5¾ and 260 lbs according the IBHOF. The Heavyweight Champions of the World-Tale of the Tape
39 posted on 05/27/2005 4:28:19 PM PDT by kabar
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To: lizol

Nice chest. Has he got a boyfriend?


41 posted on 05/27/2005 6:52:20 PM PDT by j23
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To: lizol

I don't feel shame because of Golota, just like I wouldn't feel pride if he'd won. Golota should switch over to sausage industry.


42 posted on 05/27/2005 7:00:46 PM PDT by j23
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To: watchin

rent or buy the documentary of his fight with foreman.


43 posted on 05/28/2005 6:09:05 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: lizol

Earlier, Valuev, Russia’s largest boxer at 151 kilograms and a height of 215 centimeters, occupied the third place in the list. ==

Who can fight him? Such weight and height. He probably has been in his own cathegory.

I saw once his fight with some guy which lesser then him about half head. It looks like Valuev wanted not to hurt him. Because only one punch and opponent is dead.


44 posted on 05/28/2005 6:10:49 AM PDT by RusIvan
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To: nikos1121

Terell was 6' 6"... :-)

I still thinkAli in his prime would have flattened the Russian. Rocky Balboa could too.

nick


45 posted on 05/28/2005 6:14:39 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: kabar
the bigger guy might have a more solid foundation, but he can still get punched in the head and if the lighter guy can generate the force required to shake up his brains, or maybe nail his liver, and because he's quicker can punch and get away, the extra weight means nothing.
46 posted on 05/28/2005 6:20:13 AM PDT by Benrand
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To: sharktrager
"Damn, that is one ugly dude."

Looks like he fell out of the Ugly Tree and hit every branch on the way down!

47 posted on 05/28/2005 6:25:03 AM PDT by albee (A paranoid schizophrenic is somebody who just found out what is going on.)
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To: RusIvan
"only one punch and opponent is dead"

As to me - with such a guy - even one glance would be enough. :-)))
48 posted on 05/28/2005 7:38:23 AM PDT by lizol
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To: Benrand
As I said, all things being equal, the bigger guy can punch harder than the little guy. Great punchers are born. Either you got it or you don't. It is all about speed and leverage. That said, F=MA still obtains. You can't change the laws of physics.

Sure the smaller guy can negate the big guy's weight advantage through boxing skills, which is why I agreed that Louis would beat this guy. That is a given. It is also a given that, except for the heavywieght class, we match fighters of about equal weight. Size does matter.

49 posted on 05/28/2005 8:01:59 AM PDT by kabar
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To: lizol

As to me - with such a guy - even one glance would be enough. :-)))==

I saw the TV show with him. He is very intellegent guy. He and his trainer plan tactics for the fight as chess players.
He looks like very scareful on ring. He just need one punch.


50 posted on 05/28/2005 9:03:01 AM PDT by RusIvan
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