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Kerry Finally Signs Vietnam Release
NewMax.com ^ | Saturday, May 28, 2005 12:02 a.m. EDT | With Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff

Posted on 05/28/2005 10:38:40 AM PDT by Prost1

After pledging to Tim Russert that he would sign a form authorizing the Defense Department to release his military records, Sen. John Kerry has finally put his signature on the document.

Appearing on NBC's "Meet the Press" on Jan. 30, Kerry told host Tim Russert that he would sign the form known as SF 180, but did not say when he would do it.

It took him a solid 110 days to get around to it, and then only after a continuous drumbeat of demands from some conservatives.

A Kerry spokesman told the Washington Times the form is now in the hands of the Navy, where it will be processed before being passed to the National Personnel Records Center. The process could take a couple of months.

Once they are made public, the documents will either prove or disprove claims the Swift Boat veterans leveled against the senator during the 2004 presidential election campaign.

Kerry and his media allies such as the New York Times called the Swift Boat vets a bunch of politically motivated operatives who they claimed shamelessly vilified Kerry's war record.

For their part the vets charged that Kerry's real Vietnam service was so at odds with what he had for years claimed was his heroic war record that it proved him, as they put it, "unfit for command" as America's commander in chief.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: form180; kerry; medicalrecord; mtp
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Looks like Kerry has decided Not to seek another run at the presidency!
1 posted on 05/28/2005 10:38:40 AM PDT by Prost1
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To: Prost1

...or he's had enough time to tidy them up?


2 posted on 05/28/2005 10:41:02 AM PDT by bannie (The government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul.)
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To: Prost1
now in the hands of the Navy, where it will be processed before being passed to the National Personnel Records Center. The process could take a couple of months.

Thoroughly scrubbed is a better description...

3 posted on 05/28/2005 10:41:20 AM PDT by IncPen (There's nothing that a liberal can't improve using your money...)
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To: Prost1

Seeing is believing--see Polipundit.com and kausfiles. How do we know he signed it . And if he does will he mail it in or release all the records? Watch this space!


4 posted on 05/28/2005 10:41:28 AM PDT by the Real fifi
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To: Prost1
Once they are made public...

Yes, but who makes them public? Will there at least be an inventory available? Will the newsies accept only what is fed from the Kerry campaign? Will Kerry be allowed to redact information? I thought the whole point of the one-eight-oh was to allow FOIA access to the information from th source.

5 posted on 05/28/2005 10:42:19 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (NEWSWEEK LIED, PEOPLE DIED)
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To: bannie

the fix is in


6 posted on 05/28/2005 10:42:36 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: Prost1
A Kerry spokesman told the Washington Times the form is now in the hands of the Navy, where it will be processed before being passed to the National Personnel Records Center. The process could take a couple of months.

Okay, so maybe another 2 more months (not holding my breath).

7 posted on 05/28/2005 10:42:57 AM PDT by xJones
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To: Prost1

"...the documents will either prove or disprove claims the Swift Boat veterans..."

Oh geez not necessarily. They may have been Bowdlerized at the moment they were written.


8 posted on 05/28/2005 10:43:27 AM PDT by Felis_irritable
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To: Prost1

I think you're misinterpreting. He realizes that he'll never get elected President unless he releases it. So he's doing it now, hoping that the release will clear the way for another run.


9 posted on 05/28/2005 10:44:33 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: bannie

don't know but i don't think he can change anything??? but maybe a "friend" can


10 posted on 05/28/2005 10:45:02 AM PDT by camas
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To: IncPen; bannie

I share ya'lls thoughts on this---

we already know that there was "hanky-panky" with signatures on some of the forms...that the Sec. of Navy during the time some of these forms were supposedly signed by him, doesn't even remember signing them...

We also know from the Swifties, that Kerry managed to "massage" his record even while still in Vietnam, by writing his own reports with falsity and duplicity....

I wish I could be excited about this, but it is too EASY, all of a sudden....therefore, I highly doubt "the truth" will be known....

To borrow a famous phrase, "JUST DAMN".


11 posted on 05/28/2005 10:45:49 AM PDT by Txsleuth (Mark Levin for Supreme Court Justice)
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To: Prost1
I'm guessing a dishonorable, or a section 8. Why else would the lamestream media give him a pass before the election?

5.56mm

12 posted on 05/28/2005 10:46:06 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: Txsleuth

They've learned a few things about creating fake documents.


13 posted on 05/28/2005 10:47:47 AM PDT by bannie (The government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul.)
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To: Prost1
Can you do a selective release using the Form 180?

Kerry then most likely went over his entire record and stipulated what documents will be or will not be released.

It would explain why it took Kerry 110 days to do the form 180.

14 posted on 05/28/2005 10:47:57 AM PDT by demlosers
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

form 180 PING


15 posted on 05/28/2005 10:49:46 AM PDT by King Prout (blast and char it among fetid buzzard guts!)
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To: Prost1
B.S.!!!

Signing isn't enough. He has to send it in to the proper authorities and allow the papers to be released to the public.

I'm betting we will never see his papers untill Hillary releases them!

16 posted on 05/28/2005 10:50:02 AM PDT by airborne (Dear Lord, please be with my family in Iraq. Keep them close to You and safely in Your arms.)
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To: bannie
I think you are right. Even though it helped him...I don't think that even Bush liked the swift's. These political people protect there own-- always figuring the day will come when they need the same favor. That is why Clinton and most of his crony's walked away. That is why Hillary's finance directer walked away. That is why Clinton's people can remove and destroy government documents and get a little slap on the hand. And most likely anything that would really hurt John Kerry has already been taken care of.
17 posted on 05/28/2005 10:51:41 AM PDT by Revel
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To: NonValueAdded
http://www.archives.gov/research_room/obtain_copies/standard_form_180.pdf

It all depends what he filled in Section III item #2.
My best guess is that he will send it to himself so he can clean it up.
Truth is that it is not sent to the Navy it is sent to NARA in St Louis. So they got that wrong.
I'm guessing 3-4 months, mine took about 5. An I only wanted my DD-214. The civilians at NARA are a joke. Sorry, but I called the military side and at least someone answered the phone and was polite and said she could get what I needed in a week or two. When I kidded her about the military side being different than the civilian side she didn't say anything but did kinda giggle.
18 posted on 05/28/2005 10:52:07 AM PDT by ProudVet77 (Warning: Frequent sarcastic posts)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Maybe, finally a start?


19 posted on 05/28/2005 10:52:18 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: Prost1

So has anyone actually seen a copy of this allegedly-signed form 180?


20 posted on 05/28/2005 10:52:38 AM PDT by thoughtomator (The U.S. Constitution poses no serious threat to our form of government)
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