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Bush denies Democrats Bolton files
The Washington Times ^ | May 28, 2005 | Stephen Dinan and James G. Lakely

Posted on 05/28/2005 12:01:20 PM PDT by concentric circles

The Bush administration said yesterday that Democratic senators should not expect to get the documents they are seeking before they will allow an up-or-down vote on John R. Bolton...

"They have what they need," White House spokesman Scott McClellan said. "The Democratic and Republican leaders of the Intelligence Committee have had access to this sensitive, highly classified information. The Democrats clamoring for it have already voted against the nomination. This is about partisan politics."

...The documents sought by Democratic Sens. Joseph R. Biden Jr. of Delaware and Christopher J. Dodd of Connecticut are e-mail messages and other background material for congressional testimony Mr. Bolton was to give in 2003 about Syria's weapons programs and 10 foreign communications intercepts the nominee requested in his current role as undersecretary of state for arms control and international security...

... Republicans said the requests for information are just a delay tactic.

The top Democrat and Republican on the Senate Intelligence Committee have seen redacted versions of the intercepts, and concluded nothing could be learned from allowing Mr. Biden to see censored versions.

Sen. Pat Roberts, Kansas Republican and the committee chairman, went further, saying that releasing the intercepts to anyone else would set a bad precedent for compromising some of the most sensitive intelligence...

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 109th; bolton; bush; fillibuster; johnbolton; ussenate
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I'm still waiting to hear "news" outlets report that the Democrats have seen the documents and concluded that nothing could be learned from them.
1 posted on 05/28/2005 12:01:21 PM PDT by concentric circles
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To: concentric circles
This is about partisan politics.

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I would agree. Particularly since Biden is involved.

2 posted on 05/28/2005 12:04:29 PM PDT by trisham ("Live Free or Die," General John Stark, July 31, 1809)
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To: concentric circles
...releasing the intercepts to anyone else would set a bad precedent for compromising some of the most sensitive intelligence...

They are top secret documents, and why these freakin senators want to muck about is beyond me.

3 posted on 05/28/2005 12:06:27 PM PDT by Random Nonsense
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To: concentric circles

I wouldn't hand over classified material to Harry "Guess what's in his FBI file?" Reid either.


4 posted on 05/28/2005 12:08:52 PM PDT by John Jorsett (scam never sleeps)
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To: concentric circles

"The Democrats clamoring for it have already voted against the nomination. This is about partisan politics."

That must be a a misquote from Scott. The Democrats have never and will never do anyting strictly for partisan purposes! Who does he think he's kidding? /SARCASM ;)


5 posted on 05/28/2005 12:09:00 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: concentric circles

A Bolton recess appt. this weekend would be nice. Let the dems chew on that for a while.


6 posted on 05/28/2005 12:11:48 PM PDT by hershey
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To: Random Nonsense

Because they're demonrats!


7 posted on 05/28/2005 12:12:13 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch (Remember, this is only a temporary exile!)
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To: Random Nonsense
Besides, they have no right to them. This is a seoration of powers issue.

I was hoping for a recess appointment. Darn.

8 posted on 05/28/2005 12:12:20 PM PDT by CasearianDaoist
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To: concentric circles

A recess appt. this weekend would be nice. Let the dems chew on that for a while.


9 posted on 05/28/2005 12:12:53 PM PDT by hershey
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To: John Jorsett
Bush denies Democrats Bolton files ---

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We don't need no stinkin' files.

;-)

10 posted on 05/28/2005 12:13:26 PM PDT by beyond the sea (Sounds of laughter, shades of life are ringing through my open ears exciting and inviting me)
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To: concentric circles
I hope that President Bush makes a recess appointment of Bolton in the next seven days and stick so hard in the a** of the Donkeys.
11 posted on 05/28/2005 12:14:00 PM PDT by alwaysrepublican (When Passion Rules she never rules wisely)
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To: concentric circles
And McCain is still chiding the POTUS to release the sought after documents? What a piece of work!

I pray that I am never in a position to choose between McCain and the likes of Hilary or some other socialist. I just may have to miss the 1st Election since I turned 21.

Yeah....I was around when you could serve your country, die in Vietnam and not vote until you were 21.

12 posted on 05/28/2005 12:14:07 PM PDT by PISANO (We will not tire......We will not falter.......We will NOT FAIL!!! .........GW Bush [Oct 2001])
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To: concentric circles
This is about partisan politics."

NO!!! Say it isn't so!

Party before country?

This can't be true.

The party of the people will ALWAYS put the people first!

13 posted on 05/28/2005 12:14:24 PM PDT by EGPWS
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To: concentric circles

Giving Senator (leaky) Leahy these top secret documents is the same as giving them to Al-Queda.


14 posted on 05/28/2005 12:15:45 PM PDT by airborne (Dear Lord, please be with my family in Iraq. Keep them close to You and safely in Your arms.)
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To: alwaysrepublican; hershey

IMHO, President Bush won't make a recess appointment. He won't "spend his political capital".


15 posted on 05/28/2005 12:18:33 PM PDT by airborne (Dear Lord, please be with my family in Iraq. Keep them close to You and safely in Your arms.)
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To: concentric circles

Does anybody know if Frist has the votes to confirm Bolton if cloture is reached? Apparently, he miscounted the votes on the cloture vote (or was duped by Harry Reid), and already Thune and Voinovich are voting against Bolton on the final confirmation vote.

If Reid holds his caucus against Bolton (and I wouldn't doubt it), that's already 47 votes against Bolton, before even considering the usual RINO suspects (Snowe, Chafee, etc.)


16 posted on 05/28/2005 12:19:28 PM PDT by nj26
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To: PISANO

"I pray that I am never in a position to choose between McCain and the likes of Hilary or some other socialist."

I am very confident that there will be a true conservative on the ballot in 2008. He/she may just not be on the Repubican ballot line. So no need to stay home.


17 posted on 05/28/2005 12:20:34 PM PDT by nj26
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To: hershey

"A Bolton recess appt. this weekend would be nice. Let the dems chew on that for a while."

I don't think the Pres will make a recess appt this weekend (though, I agree, it would be nice). I think he'll let Bolton come up again in June and if it drags on until Aug, he'll do the recess appt of Bolton then (I think he ought to also appt a few judges at that time, too, if they're still being denied an up or down vote).


18 posted on 05/28/2005 12:20:37 PM PDT by Seattle Conservative (Seattle Conservative)
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To: All

I'd like to see a reporter ask McCain and Biden if they have spoken to Jay Rockefeller, who would be the Democrat who has seen the documents. We're not hearing much from Rockefeller, I guess he's headed back to the hills.


19 posted on 05/28/2005 12:22:17 PM PDT by concentric circles
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Well, can't Senator Frist just Nuke 'em now?
20 posted on 05/28/2005 12:22:43 PM PDT by Goodgirlinred ( GoodGirlInRed Four More Years!!!!!)
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To: concentric circles

This is crapola, you have this guy's whole career and everything he's ever said and done to decide whether to vote him in as UN ambassador, why focus on some email messages?


21 posted on 05/28/2005 12:23:23 PM PDT by grizzly84
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To: concentric circles
Hey, Senator Biden


22 posted on 05/28/2005 12:27:58 PM PDT by andyandval (Try flushing a book down the toilet....get back to me on how you did)
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To: nj26
Thune and Voinovich are voting against Bolton on the final confirmation vote.

Is this the Thune that replaced Tommy Daschle?

I thought he was supposed to be on our side?

23 posted on 05/28/2005 12:29:22 PM PDT by demsux
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To: nj26

Don't know about the votes. Since they only need 50 votes plus Cheney to confirm, they can afford to lose 5 wayward Republicans.

From the linked story: "The U.N. ambassador's position has not traditionally been a big point of contention. Roll-call votes have been required on only one out of every four nominees to the position. The most negative votes anyone has received were cast against Richard Holbrooke, President Clinton's third ambassador. He was confirmed 81-16."


24 posted on 05/28/2005 12:30:27 PM PDT by concentric circles
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To: andyandval

I cant quite make that out


25 posted on 05/28/2005 12:30:58 PM PDT by woofie ("Plunk your magic twanger, Froggy!!")
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To: concentric circles

The democrat party is the sworn enemy, a "clear and present danger," to the United States.


26 posted on 05/28/2005 12:32:07 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember (Honoring Saint Jude's assistance every day.)
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To: concentric circles
The top Democrat and Republican on the Senate Intelligence Committee have seen redacted versions of the intercepts, and concluded nothing could be learned from allowing Mr. Biden to see censored versions.

There is a reason sensitive information isn't handed out like candy. The rank and file senators don't have a "need to know" what is in those documents. They want access so that they can publicize highly classified information and lie about the contents to sink the Bolton nomination.

27 posted on 05/28/2005 12:34:12 PM PDT by jess35
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To: hershey

agreed


28 posted on 05/28/2005 12:34:44 PM PDT by SmithL (Proud Submariner)
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To: jess35

If I recall correctly, Biden has had previous episodes of difficulty keeping the lid on classified information.


29 posted on 05/28/2005 12:36:27 PM PDT by concentric circles
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To: demsux

"Is this the Thune that replaced Tommy Daschle?"

At least he's publicly threatening (in NY Times) to vote against Bolton. Thune is upset about the closing of Ellsworth Air Force base, 2nd largest employer in South Dakota. Thune campaigned on the notion that as a Republican, he could better protect the base than Daschle. The Dems have been running ads pointing out that NV and TN gained jobs in the base realignment, and that Daschle would have had a seat on the commission.

Basically, Thune's embarrassed and angry, and using Bolton as retribution.


30 posted on 05/28/2005 12:37:45 PM PDT by nj26
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To: Random Nonsense

Because they suspect that the NSA just might have "heard" their own conversations that could prove embarassing or even treasoness.


31 posted on 05/28/2005 12:41:17 PM PDT by zerosix
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To: concentric circles

Perhaps Senator McCain can broker a deal such as this: Bolton gets no up or down vote, Frist does nothing about it.

Meanwhile, George Bush plays 'Waldo'.


32 posted on 05/28/2005 12:44:05 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (I can't think of anything clever.)
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To: nj26

I think they should close Luke AFB as a reward to McCain.


33 posted on 05/28/2005 12:45:00 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (I can't think of anything clever.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

I'd say the odds are excellent for that.


34 posted on 05/28/2005 12:48:54 PM PDT by glock rocks (1-800-marrow2)
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To: concentric circles
"If I recall correctly, Biden has had previous episodes of difficulty keeping the lid on classified information"

Bidena dns Reid are both guitly of that. They think they are fooling people, but people who pay attention know this isn't about information, its about obstruction.

They were, are, and will always be steaming, stinking POS'

35 posted on 05/28/2005 12:53:10 PM PDT by libs_kma (USA: The land of the Free....Because of the Brave!)
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To: Jeff Chandler
Closing Luke would make more sense than closing Cannon here in NM. Whereas Luke has been encroached by west Phoenix subdivisions, Cannon has no such problems and is next to a first class training and bombing range.
36 posted on 05/28/2005 1:05:30 PM PDT by CedarDave (RINO's make Pubbies MINO's (Majority in Name Only))
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To: hershey
A Bolton recess appt. this weekend would be nice. Let the dems chew on that for a while.

That would take the heat off the Senate regarding the matter of voting presidential nominations up-or-down. Better to keep the heat on the Senate. The UN can wait.

37 posted on 05/28/2005 1:13:33 PM PDT by Cboldt
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It is filibuster to refuse to vote where the only reason is to delay or obstruct the body reaching a decision. Feinstein admits to refusing to vote, when she knows what her vote is going to be.

But Feinstein said Wednesday afternoon she had already decided to vote "no" on the nomination.

So, you see no need to get more information on Bolton, I asked Sen. Feinstein, you already have enough reason to vote "no" on the nomination?

"That's right," she said.

Sometime in the next 24 hours, Feinstein changed her mind. She voted against cloture, one of the surprises that bushwhacked Frist on the Senate floor.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8006390/


38 posted on 05/28/2005 1:14:57 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: concentric circles
Bush denies Democrats Bolton files

Excellent !!!!

39 posted on 05/28/2005 1:15:16 PM PDT by Dustbunny (The only good terrorist is a dead terrorist)
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To: concentric circles
"They have what they need," White House spokesman Scott McClellan said. "The Democratic and Republican leaders of the Intelligence Committee have had access to this sensitive, highly classified information. The Democrats clamoring for it have already voted against the nomination. This is about partisan politics."

And there's McCainiac out front, leading the charge for the documents.

Some say McCain is a RINO. I disagree. He's a DIABN (Democrat in all but name).

40 posted on 05/28/2005 1:18:06 PM PDT by Lazamataz (The Republican Party is the France of politics.)
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To: woofie
He's saying STFU, advice I'd like to personally give to a bunch of political blowhards and Muslim crybabies...

:)

41 posted on 05/28/2005 1:37:46 PM PDT by kromike
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To: concentric circles
Y E S !

Er, I mean, NO!!

:)

42 posted on 05/28/2005 1:52:21 PM PDT by upchuck (If our nation be destroyed, it would be from the judiciary." ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: hershey

Bush doesn't have the balls to do it.


43 posted on 05/28/2005 1:52:33 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite (Saddam: $25k to suicide bombers = BAD --- Bush: 50 mil to terrorist scum = "GOOD")
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To: nj26; concentric circles

Allen/DeLay '08!!!!


44 posted on 05/28/2005 1:53:19 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite (Saddam: $25k to suicide bombers = BAD --- Bush: 50 mil to terrorist scum = "GOOD")
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To: Jeff Chandler

Bush is NOT playing 'Waldo' when it comes to giving 50 mil to terroist scum like Abbas. I've said it many times, I just can't drop it.....it was the last straw in my mind.


45 posted on 05/28/2005 1:56:01 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite (Saddam: $25k to suicide bombers = BAD --- Bush: 50 mil to terrorist scum = "GOOD")
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To: concentric circles

GOOD!
McCain is going to be furious!


46 posted on 05/28/2005 1:57:00 PM PDT by mowkeka (If you thought I hated McCain before, I am FURIOUS now!!!!!!!!)
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To: John Jorsett

Bump.


47 posted on 05/28/2005 1:58:55 PM PDT by GVnana
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To: demsux

he doen't want his air base closed by BRAC!


48 posted on 05/28/2005 2:01:14 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (This tagline no longer operative....floated away in the flood of 2005 ,)
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To: concentric circles
I have a suggestion:

Lets just leave the position of Ambassador to the UN vacant, and stop all payment on dues until they confirm Bolten. We will just send someone in uncle sam outfit to veto 100% of their security council resolutions. I don't care if it takes them a century to get around to it. In the intrim there are better thing to do with Bolten then to send him to a powerless and useless organization. They don't like him fine...screw the UN; there is no longer a need to worry about them.
49 posted on 05/28/2005 2:21:27 PM PDT by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: andyandval

I'm glad he says it nice and slow so that old fart can take his time. If not, he can always ask some kid who wants to be just like him for assistance.


50 posted on 05/28/2005 2:42:20 PM PDT by Dr.Hilarious (If Al Qaeda took over the judiciary and mainstream media, would we know the difference?)
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