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Orrin Hatch: Nuclear Option Still on the Table
Human Events ^ | May 28, 2005 | Senator Orrin G. Hatch

Posted on 05/28/2005 5:09:47 PM PDT by RWR8189

The judicial filibuster agreement reached by a group of 14 Republican and Democratic senators may be a truce, but it is not a treaty.

It remains to be seen if the Senate’s tradition of up-or-down votes for judicial nominations will be re-established. And make no mistake, every tool for returning to that tradition remains on the table. As Majority Leader Bill Frist and even some signatories to this agreement have acknowledged, this includes the constitutional option.

Those who founded this republic designed the Senate without the minority’s being able to filibuster anything at all. After a rules change made the filibuster possible, the Senate reserved its use to the legislative calendar and by tradition did not use it for judicial nominees. We could have used the filibuster to prevent confirmation of judicial nominations, but we did not do so.

In 2003, after 214 years, that tradition changed when Democrats blocked confirmation of 10 majority-supported appeals court nominees by preventing any confirmation vote at all.

The ends, however, do not justify the unconstitutional means. We must restore the Senate tradition of up-or-down votes for judicial nominations reaching the Senate floor.

On May 23, 2005, a group of 14 senators, seven Democrats and seven Republicans, issued a “Memorandum of Understanding on Judicial Nominations.” The Democrats’ part of the pact was pledging to vote for cloture on three named judicial nominees and to oppose filibusters of future judicial nominations except in undefined “extraordinary circumstances.” The Republicans’ contribution was pledging to oppose changing Senate rules or procedures regarding judicial filibusters during the current 109th Congress.

They announced this deal on the eve of a Senate vote that would have eliminated the judicial filibuster altogether. Four times during the 108th Congress, the Senate failed to invoke cloture, or end debate, on the appeals court nomination of Priscilla Owen. Had that happened again on May 24, 2005, Frist would have sought a ruling from the presiding officer that, after sufficient debate, the Senate should vote on a judicial nomination. I would have joined a majority of my fellow senators in voting to affirm that ruling, re-establishing Senate tradition and making the judicial filibuster a thing of the past.

Recently dubbed the constitutional option, this is a mechanism for changing Senate procedures—without changing Senate rules—that has been used, directly or indirectly, for nearly a century. The filibuster deal was struck, in part, so that the constitutional option would not, at least for now, be exercised.
The operative words here are “for now.” On its face at least, the deal fails to re-establish the Senate’s tradition of up-or-down votes for all judicial nominations reaching the Senate floor. Instead, it may effectively reduce the number of senators who can dictate which nominees receive floor votes to just the handful involved in this deal, since they can make or break the 60-vote threshold for invoking cloture, or ending debate, under Senate Rule XXII.

Loopholes in the Deal

Perhaps even worse, the deal does not even attempt to distinguish the “extraordinary circumstances” justifying future filibusters from the “extreme” standard Democrats say justified their past filibusters. Rather than confine the filibuster, this subjectivity creates loopholes large enough to drive a filibuster through.

The imperative to re-establish Senate tradition remains. This deal does not take the constitutional option for accomplishing this goal off the table. In fact, it was precisely the prospect of using the constitutional option in this very instance that prompted this agreement, including the promise to allow votes on nominees such as Priscilla Owen, Janice Rogers Brown and William Pryor. Some Republican signatories have already said that they will support the constitutional option if the deal’s “extraordinary circumstances” loophole turns out to be a distinction without a difference compared to past practice. If we return to judicial filibusters—and we all know a Supreme Court vacancy looms—we will return to the constitutional option.

The judicial confirmation process needs to be fixed by returning to the tradition of up-or-down votes for judicial nominations reaching the Senate floor. This deal does not directly accomplish this goal, though it remains to be seen whether it might still do so in practice. I agree with Frist that, one way or another, whether by the self-restraint that once guided us or by the constitutional option, that tradition must return.

Sen. Hatch (R.-Utah) is the former chairman of the Judiciary Committee.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: 109; billfrist; centrists; compromise; constitutionaloption; filibuster; frist; hatch; nuclearoption; orrinhatch; ussenate
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1 posted on 05/28/2005 5:09:49 PM PDT by RWR8189
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To: RWR8189

I'd like to announce this not the last time I will type: blah, blah,blah ....


2 posted on 05/28/2005 5:14:27 PM PDT by zarf
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To: zarf

Has anyone seen Trent Lott, Orin Hatch or Bob Dole in the same room at the same time? I still say they are the same person, with different masks. Now I'm beginning to think of Frisky Fritter the same way.

Could we all pitch in and buy one spine for them? Perhaps they could take turns.


3 posted on 05/28/2005 5:18:30 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: RWR8189
Does this mean the next time that Hatch appears on Meet the Press with Biden, Schumer, Kennedy, etc, that they won't be holding hands and gazing lovingly into each others' eyes?

Save the words. We're interested in deeds.

4 posted on 05/28/2005 5:20:41 PM PDT by labette (to hit the ball and touch em all, a moment in the sun.)
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To: DoughtyOne
"Could we all pitch in and buy one spine for them?"

My friend..........there just isn't enough money.

5 posted on 05/28/2005 5:20:47 PM PDT by RightOnline
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To: RWR8189
Well if it is still on the table PRESS THE F*****G BUTTON!
6 posted on 05/28/2005 5:21:24 PM PDT by Paul_Denton (Get the U.N. out of the U.S. and U.S. out of the U.N.!)
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To: RWR8189

It's not one of these freepers that calls Hatch or Lott a RHINO. They are good men.
The GOP is acting like a minority, not cause of these men, but because of John McCain.


7 posted on 05/28/2005 5:22:33 PM PDT by mowkeka (If you thought I hated McCain before, I am FURIOUS now!!!!!!!!)
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To: RWR8189

Who would have ever dreamed that it was possible for a male Republican Senator to have such teenie weenie testicals , that by comparison, Orrin Hatch's pair borders on bowling ball dimensions?


8 posted on 05/28/2005 5:23:46 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Filibusterer's are fulluvsh*t!)
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To: RightOnline

Not for the size spine they'd need. True.


9 posted on 05/28/2005 5:24:30 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: RWR8189
Yeah right. Tell me another one. This one is approaching the realm of "three biggest lies", the first one of which is "The check is in the mail."

I sent TWO postage paid envelopes back to the Republicans this weekend. One to the RNC and the other to the Republican Senatorial Committee. No money inside, just a lot of writing about how disgusted I am with the RINOs in the Senate.

I'm a pretty good giver, too.

Oh, don't worry, DU Lurkers--I'm still going to GIVE, but instead of giving to the party (until I'm satisfied with their progress), I'll give to individual candidates to make sure you socialist anti-capitalist liberal infanticide enthusiasts STILL LOSE! BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA! You can't stop me from funding conservative Republicans! BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!

10 posted on 05/28/2005 5:24:53 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I'm so glad to no longer be associated with the Party of Dependence on Government!)
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To: RWR8189

Unless Frist can peel away a few of those 7 idiots I don't see it happening. McCaine is going to keep all of them together. so they can avoid looking like idiots......Or as McCaine says'' We have to preserve the great traditions of the senate'', and Byrd'' We have saved our Republic''............Excuse me while I go puke!


11 posted on 05/28/2005 5:27:27 PM PDT by Bush gal in LA
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To: RWR8189

Of course the nuclear option is still on the table. McCain and the 6 gollums stole the detonator so it couldn't be used.


12 posted on 05/28/2005 5:27:47 PM PDT by Modok
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To: zarf

I think the Democrats owe us a filibuster debt now, and should be forced to STFU for the rest of the year.


13 posted on 05/28/2005 5:30:12 PM PDT by claudiustg (Go Sharon! Go Bush!)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

I HAVE SENT BACK 3 FOR MONEY WITH WORDS NO MORE MONEY NO MORE VOTES TILL WE SEE ACTION ! !


14 posted on 05/28/2005 5:30:12 PM PDT by ducks1944 (GOD BLESS THE USA ! !)
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To: RWR8189

If McCain had been in the Senate 150 years ago the Mason/Dixon
Line would probably also be the Mexican Border.


15 posted on 05/28/2005 5:30:38 PM PDT by CMailBag
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To: Recovering_Democrat

There have been a lot of threads since Monday, bemoaning the RINO 7, that voted themselves into the Centrist Coaltion, and how we go about getting them out of the Senate...

I know one thread was dedicated to finding a replacement for Mike DeWeenie...and a lot of posters were suggesting John Kasich...

Well, I just finished seeing an interview ole John did with a democrat pundit re: Hillary---and John was WAY, WAY complementary about Mrs. Bubba...in fact he just said that she has "proved" to be much more moderate than people thought she would be when she was elected....

Folks in Ohio---please, find someone other than John Kasich, I beg of you!!!!


16 posted on 05/28/2005 5:31:15 PM PDT by Txsleuth (Mark Levin for Supreme Court Justice)
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To: RWR8189
On May 23, 2005, a group of 14 senators, seven Democrats and seven Republicans, issued a “Memorandum of Understanding on Judicial Nominations.”

Since when does a group gather in a room and tell Frist what to do? Frist must be impotent to allow the tail to wag the dog.

17 posted on 05/28/2005 5:31:51 PM PDT by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (The Republican'ts have no backbone--they ALWAYS cave-in to the RATs)
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To: RWR8189

the dems must take joy in that a handful of their ilk can run circles around the republicans.


18 posted on 05/28/2005 5:32:02 PM PDT by ken21 (if you didn't see it on tv, then it didn't happen. /s)
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To: Bush gal in LA

"...so they can avoid looking like idiots"...TOO LATE!


19 posted on 05/28/2005 5:36:40 PM PDT by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668)
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To: DoughtyOne
How about sending "back braces" for the R Senators? They could be labeled:
"Wear this to ensure that you neither bend over backwards, nor bend over to grab your ankles. Wear this garment while voting for cloture, judicial nominees, or UN ambassadors".

BTW, where is it in either the constitution or the "214 years of senate tradition" whereby 14 nitwits are allowed to side-step the senate leadership and and declare mutiny?
20 posted on 05/28/2005 5:40:51 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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