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1 posted on 05/28/2005 6:22:28 PM PDT by Flavius
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Oh, it's good for hunting. The only problem with that is there isn't an abundance of elephants in NY state.


2 posted on 05/28/2005 6:24:08 PM PDT by NHAntiMassRedRebel (Our only fault is that we're 40 minutes north of Boston.)
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"Why wait for a tragedy to happen?" she said. "Let's do something to prevent a tragedy from occurring. No one needs to have a .50-caliber weapon."

Hand 'em in boys and girls they are going after em...

3 posted on 05/28/2005 6:24:56 PM PDT by Flavius ("... we should reconnoitre assiduosly... " Vegetius)
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Amazingly for all this tremendous capability the .50 cal is rarely used by terrorists. Might have something to do with trying to walk, carry the rifle that handles the round, and packing along a couple of dozen cartridges.

Dude is H E A V Y~@@!!!!!

This type of weapon is much more suited to a defensive emplacement than a fire and maneuver assault.

Democrats, being unfamiliar with the concept of "defense", to say nothing of the idea of "defending America", probably have no idea what I'm talking about.

Dems and Liberals are fundamentally too stupid to pour contaminants from metal containers.

4 posted on 05/28/2005 6:27:25 PM PDT by muawiyah
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Andy Pelosi....any relation to you-know-who?


6 posted on 05/28/2005 6:31:03 PM PDT by clintonh8r (So....Is means testing now a conservative value? Apparently 40% of FReepers think it is.)
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Would this mean that I can't buy a Civil War weapon, which is commonly .54 calibre?

What is the magic of .50 Calibre? Is there some magical properties of such a weapon that makes it worse than a .499 calibre?

If these weapons are soooo powerful then why are then not the standard issue weapon for soldiers around the world, instead of being relegated to special use?

Enquiring minds, et


8 posted on 05/28/2005 6:32:02 PM PDT by TWohlford
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"There's no place in civilian society for this gun. This gun is a weapon of war," Pelosi said.

So, as a military-only (i.e., militia) weapon, it's protected under Miller.

9 posted on 05/28/2005 6:32:19 PM PDT by Grut
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Isn't it a little difficult for an 18 year old to come up with $7,000.00 without creating some kind of scrutiny by the feds?


11 posted on 05/28/2005 6:36:47 PM PDT by NY Attitude
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OK cool can we get these instead then.

cartridge size comparision: .50 BMG (top) and the 20x110mm Hispano (below)

12 posted on 05/28/2005 6:39:50 PM PDT by Flavius ("... we should reconnoitre assiduosly... " Vegetius)
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"There's no place in civilian society for this gun. This gun is a weapon of war," Pelosi said.......If I am not mistaken, WE ARE AT WAR with a murderous enemy that has promised to kill us all. They have already started. There are 3000 innocent Americans dead so far...right here on our soil!.....

And there are lunitics here in the United States that want us disarmed......just how utterly and completely crazy is that?

If Andy Pelosi et al succeed in even partially disarming American citizens...and even one American is murdered by mohammidians because of the lack of the banned firearm...I would say Andy Pelosi should suffer some consequences.....I can't say what those consequences might be, but they should be severe enough that Mr. Pelosi will never forget.

15 posted on 05/28/2005 6:42:22 PM PDT by B.O. Plenty (Liberalism and islam are terminal.......)
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"There's no place in civilian society for Andy Pelosi."


16 posted on 05/28/2005 6:42:50 PM PDT by Sender (Team Infidel USA)
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"which uses a bullet that's six inches long...."

Damn news reporters are mostly morons. They seem to have any knowlege of anything they report on. The bullet is about 1" long. It is a half inch in diameter. The shell casing is six inches long. And it would be a un-believable lucky shot to bring down even a piper club with one round from this weapon.
Ask any soldier or Marine if I am not being truthful.
These bozos just keep rolling along in mis-information.

So a well place shot lets say from a Winchester 460 Magnum on some fuel valve at a chemical plant will probably do just as well as this 50 caliber round. Now remember anyone can walk into a gun shop and by a Winchester 460 caliber rifle.
Only thing is, with the 50 caliber rifle, it has a much longer barrel, which leads to a higher muzzle energy and a flatter bullet path, which will retain more energy at much longer distances. But this article as others, makes it sound like a 50 caliber rifle can bring down a chopper or military jet or airliner with a few shots. It is very misleading in my opinion. Of course a 50 caliber machine gun is a different story, but that is not the issue here.


17 posted on 05/28/2005 6:43:23 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle
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19 posted on 05/28/2005 6:44:56 PM PDT by freepatriot32 (If you want to change government support the libertarian party www.lp.org)
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Pelosi was in Syracuse Thursday as part of a statewide push to ban the .50-caliber rifle, which uses a bullet that's six inches long

MY GOD! Imagine what the cartridge must be like!!!


20 posted on 05/28/2005 6:45:46 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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Must be a LONG action.


21 posted on 05/28/2005 6:46:10 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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"No one needs to have a .50-caliber weapon."

First of all, the Second Amendment isn't need-based. Typical that a lefty would try and cast our rights in that fashion -- as though they were an 'entitlement'.

Second of all, the more I hear from people like this Peolis, the more convinced I am that the American citizens DO need these weapons.

24 posted on 05/28/2005 6:54:53 PM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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Why all the focus on guns? Who needs them! I sure don't! Nope, I don't have any at all. So, if anyone asks I just have gun safes. They are all empty. Really!


29 posted on 05/28/2005 7:10:03 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (Get all the incumbents out of politics!)
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Perhaps Ronnie Barrett and the other firearms manufacturers will cut New York off when this asinine bill gets signed. Especially law enforcement sales. Let the dumbass politicians listen to the howls from disarmed law enforcement.
32 posted on 05/28/2005 7:14:11 PM PDT by Myrddin
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Come and get it. Oh, BTW - it has a nasty way of emptying all six chambers at random. Best to sneak up on me.

If you can.


35 posted on 05/28/2005 7:43:33 PM PDT by Viking2002 (.............needs more cowbell.)
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What I want to say to these alleged human beings would get me banned forthwith. They are the lowest scum imaginable. Lower than whale t*rds and THEY'RE at the bottom of the ocean.


41 posted on 05/28/2005 8:39:29 PM PDT by dcwusmc ("The most dangerous man, to any government, is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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