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NASCAR Driver Says Female Phenom Has Unfair Edge(Danica Patrick)
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Posted on 05/28/2005 8:03:38 PM PDT by freepatriot32

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To: freepatriot32
"Right off the bat, a guy my size is spotting her 105 pounds," Gordon said. "That's the reason she's so much faster."

No, Mr, Gordon; that's why you are so much slower. And if you want to take away a smaller driver's advantage, go on a diet instead of demanding a rules change.

The girl could just as easily complain that her larger-muscled male competitors have a strength advantage, and demand a rule change to "level the playing field" for her, but AFAIK she hasn't.

This has to be just about the most obnoxious lack of class on the part of a racer I've seen in a long, long time.

61 posted on 05/28/2005 8:43:26 PM PDT by longshadow
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To: clintonh8r
"virtually every major racing series except IRL calculates minimum car weight with the driver aboard, just for that reason. That is Gordon's complaint..."

Then Gordon should go drive in one of the *other* racing series. Indy rules are different because...gasp...it's a different race!

Crying about the rules won't win him any friends. Go race where you like the rules.

62 posted on 05/28/2005 8:44:20 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: EdHallick

It IS unfair. However, I think its amusing that Robby Gordon is only complaining about it now. Although Danica Patrick may be a more extreme case, there have always been weight disparities between drivers. Mark Martin, a very successful Nascar driver, weighs about 135lbs. You don't hear Robby whining about that. His argument is actually plausible, but the timing makes it extremely suspect.

For me, it all boils down to one thing: Robby is afraid of losing to a girl.

I wish her the best of luck and I hope she wins.


63 posted on 05/28/2005 8:44:57 PM PDT by VOR78
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To: Oztrich Boy
...it's easier if you drive around the track faster

Well, that's the trick, isn't it?

If she goes fast enough, long enough, she will win! Fine by me. It'll shake up the old-boy network a bit. And you know, the real drivers aren't whining!

64 posted on 05/28/2005 8:46:15 PM PDT by Coyoteman
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To: Southack

He is, so what's everybody's problem with him?


65 posted on 05/28/2005 8:46:24 PM PDT by clintonh8r (So....Is means testing now a conservative value? Apparently 40% of FReepers think it is.)
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To: hispanichoosier

Well, the proog is in the pudding as they say but there are 3 rahal cars in the race so they're not relying on her. Besides, the ton of publicity they get for this is actually worth more than winning the race. So, as to your contention they wouldn't put her there if she wasn't a contender, read the papers and watch TV and see what gets more coverage, the race winner or her.


66 posted on 05/28/2005 8:47:21 PM PDT by Arkie2 (No, I never voted for Bill Clinton. I don't plan on voting Republican again!)
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To: VOR78
Mark Martin, a very successful Nascar driver...

I believe in NASCAR the minimum weight is calculated with the driver's weight included, negating any weight differential between drivers.

67 posted on 05/28/2005 8:48:40 PM PDT by clintonh8r (So....Is means testing now a conservative value? Apparently 40% of FReepers think it is.)
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To: jps098

Why hasn't Robby been complaining about Jeff Gordon for the last 13 years? Jeff's stats say he weights a good 50 pounds lighter than Robby. I guess that explains why he's won a few championships - the driving has nothing to do with it!


68 posted on 05/28/2005 8:48:42 PM PDT by Serenissima Venezia (Hoping to be a California Vigil Antie for the Minuteman Project)
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To: freepatriot32

"I won't race against her until the IRL does something to take that advantage away."

Lose some of your own weight then you whiner.

I hope she trounces him.


69 posted on 05/28/2005 8:49:06 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland
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To: longshadow
Maybe SHE should be whining about a problem with BALAST. Those cars can almost fly if conditions are right.
70 posted on 05/28/2005 8:49:49 PM PDT by bannie (The government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul.)
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To: clintonh8r
"He is, so what's everybody's problem with him?"

My problem with Robby Gordon is that he is a man who is complaining about a little girl's legal, but "unfair" advantage in a sport dominated by testosterone-spouting male super-drivers.

Thus, Gordon makes race drivers look like crybabies instead of successful "real" men.

Danica isn't asking for special favors, yet she's competing with men according to male rules. In contrast, some of the men are crying to their mamas about little Danica beating them.

Tough. Such wimps get no sympathy from me.

71 posted on 05/28/2005 8:50:44 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Arkie2
Besides, the ton of publicity they get for this is actually worth more than winning the race.

With that, I'll agree. The pub has--without question--helped Rahal/Letterman. However, the pub has also been a huge blessing for the race, which has been moribund the last few years.
72 posted on 05/28/2005 8:50:55 PM PDT by hispanichoosier
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To: freepatriot32
Lloyd Ruby wouldn't bitch about it. Neither would Roscoe Turner. I knew them both.
73 posted on 05/28/2005 8:53:44 PM PDT by vetvetdoug (Shiloh, Corinth, Iuka, Brices Crossroads, Harrisburg, Britton Lane, Holly Springs, Hatchie Bridge,)
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To: hispanichoosier

To be honest, I haven't watched Indy car racing since they split the league. I wouldn't have even known the race was happening this weekend if it weren't for all this hooha over the woman driver so I guess putting her in the car is having it's intended effect becuse I'll tune in tomorrow to see how she's doing.


74 posted on 05/28/2005 8:54:01 PM PDT by Arkie2 (No, I never voted for Bill Clinton. I don't plan on voting Republican again!)
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To: Dinsdale
yup, all F1 cars have movable balance weight(some i think are even adjustable by the driver during the race) since they are all under dry spec weight without it. but there is no set weight for car and driver...
75 posted on 05/28/2005 8:54:03 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: hispanichoosier

It's been moribund because Tony George is an awful promoter, a member of the lucky sperm club who wouldn't have a decent job otherwise. No matter who wins, the race will never have its original cache' as long as Tony George is running it and the IRL.


76 posted on 05/28/2005 8:55:34 PM PDT by clintonh8r (So....Is means testing now a conservative value? Apparently 40% of FReepers think it is.)
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77 posted on 05/28/2005 8:55:50 PM PDT by NYTexan
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To: freepatriot32

From the land of restrictor plates comes the cry for weight classes. I don't know the physics, and I'll bet Gordon doesn't know half of the factors either. Should we handicap the men because they have more upper-body strength?


78 posted on 05/28/2005 8:55:56 PM PDT by GVnana
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To: Arkie2
I wouldn't have even known the race was happening this weekend if it weren't for all this hooha over the woman driver so I guess putting her in the car is having it's intended effect becuse I'll tune in tomorrow to see how she's doing.

Exactly, and you're not the only one. At the 500 Festival Parade today, I overheard at least a dozen persons say that they "came out to see Danica." I can only assume that she'll have the same effect with regard to the actual broadcast of the race.
79 posted on 05/28/2005 8:56:43 PM PDT by hispanichoosier
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To: longshadow
The girl could just as easily complain that her larger-muscled male competitors have a strength advantage, and demand a rule change to "level the playing field" for her, but AFAIK she hasn't.

Plus, even at similar weights, females have less upper body strength than males.

He gets beaten by a girl = no excuse.

80 posted on 05/28/2005 8:57:18 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy
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